Holding a blade to your beloved's throat

CrazySquirrel · 07-01-2005, 06:56 AM

Isn't it funny? It looks like that the surest way to woo a man is to take a sword and to prick his throat with it...

Arwen is doing that to Aragorn.
Eowyn is doing that to Aragorn.

Aragorn seems pleased and impressed.

I will not be surprised it there is a rejected scene with Eowyn wooing Furamir thusly

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I wonder, perhaps Eowyn tried the same trick with the Witch-King, only missed a little?

Lotesse · 07-01-2005, 06:57 PM

Don't forget Frodo in Osgiliath, with Sam...

CrazySquirrel · 07-02-2005, 03:35 PM

Sure, how could I have forgotten!

Gordis · 07-03-2005, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazySquirrel

I wonder, perhaps Eowyn tried the same trick with the Witch-King, only missed a little?

IF she wanted to become a queen so badly...Why not?

Halbarad of the Dunedain · 07-04-2005, 11:35 AM

Your forgetting Sam and Gollum several times if i'm not mistaken, and what about Aragorn and the King of the Dead in Return of the king!? Sparks are flying i think...

tolkienfan · 07-04-2005, 02:22 PM

And Frodo and Gollum in Two Towers...

Lotesse · 07-05-2005, 12:48 AM

That's RIGHT! I forgot about those two, how funny!!

Daphne_daughter_of_Eowyn · 07-10-2005, 03:38 PM

Cool! I think the Arwen and Eowyn holding swords to Aragorn is very suggestive. I think that idea is a good one. It does look a bit suggestive, doesn't it? A bit flirty too.

CrazySquirrel · 07-10-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Daphne_daughter_of_Eowyn

Cool! I think the Arwen and Eowyn holding swords to Aragorn is very suggestive. I think that idea is a good one. It does look a bit suggestive, doesn't it? A bit flirty too.

If you speak seroiusly, no! I can't agree.
I think it was a BAD idea. Imagine how real Aragorn might feel when a woman pricks his neck with a sword.

To a warroir it means defeat, capture and death, just at subconscious level. Moreover, Aragorn's warrior training, ALL his instincts would make him react before any notions of courtesy etc. would resurface. That was just not feasible!

Daphne_daughter_of_Eowyn · 07-11-2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazySquirrel

If you speak seroiusly, no! I can't agree.
I think it was a BAD idea. Imagine how real Aragorn might feel when a woman pricks his neck with a sword.

To a warroir it means defeat, capture and death, just at subconscious level. Moreover, Aragorn's warrior training, ALL his instincts would make him react before any notions of courtesy etc. would resurface. That was just not feasible!

I can see where you're coming from as it woudl be a damage to Aragorn's pride as it would show weakness but I still think it's suggestive but that's my opinion.

Bombadillo · 07-12-2005, 07:09 PM

It is a bit suggestive, but it wasn't a good idea IMO to assume that Aragorn was so kinky.

Lotesse · 07-13-2005, 12:59 PM

I think its bulls--t. In real life, no one - no man, no woman, no elf or whatever, would find it cute, flirty, sexy, or in any way a positive thing to be brought to a swordpoint. Have you ever been stabbed? Do you know what it feels like? Like Crazy Squirrel says, what do you think Aragorn's TRUE instinctive warrior reaction would have been? You think he'd feel all warm and fuzzy about some chick who made HIM feel weak and defeated?!?
I mean, REAL LIFE! Please, this isn't real life, it's the movies were talking about here.

hectorberlioz · 07-13-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotesse

I think its bulls--t. In real life, no one - no man, no woman, no elf or whatever, would find it cute, flirty, sexy, or in any way a positive thing to be brought to a swordpoint. Have you ever been stabbed? Do you know what it feels like? Like Crazy Squirrel says, what do you think Aragorn's TRUE instinctive warrior reaction would have been? You think he'd feel all warm and fuzzy about some chick who made HIM feel weak and defeated?!?
I mean, REAL LIFE! Please, this isn't real life, it's the movies were talking about here.

Bombadillo is right. In fact I don't think Arwen or Even Eowyn was thus inclined the literature

You guys are also forgetting poor Pippin and Gandalf, all that commanding he does...

CrazySquirrel · 07-13-2005, 06:40 PM

My main point was that no chick could ever had a chance to best Aragorn or even to creep on him unawares. If Aragorn was that careless he wouldn't have survived a month in the wilderness.

Lotesse · 07-13-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazySquirrel

My main point was that no chick could ever had a chance to best Aragorn or even to creep on him unawares. If Aragorn was that careless he wouldn't have survived a month in the wilderness.

That's true, too. He probably wouldn't have lasted even a DAY in the wilderness of Middle-Earth. Movie Arwen is just illogical in every way (no offense, Liv Tyler)

Tree Dweller · 07-14-2005, 12:11 AM

I can't guess Peter Jackson's motive for it, but maybe he was just trying to give the women a strong presence so the are not lost behind the men.

Lotesse · 07-14-2005, 12:35 AM

But, sneaky with a sword does not necessarily translate as strong. A good screenwriter with some respectful alliegance to Tolkien could have written in real character strength without having to rely on cheap tactics like the old tip-of-blade-to-other-person's-neck ploy.
(anybody seen those old Pink Panther movies?)

The_Star_Earendil · 07-23-2005, 03:16 AM

maybe they were just trying to help him shave u know he missed a spot they might not like that stubble beard stuff

Acalewia · 07-24-2005, 06:55 PM

Arwen is an Elf and from what I understand you can't hear one sneak up on you.
Also, in case you didn't notice, Aragon had a very perterbed look on his face as she said, "What's this? A Ranger? Caught off his guard?"

***Tessar*** · 07-24-2005, 11:39 PM

I dunno, guys. I'd think it was TOTALLY hot if a chick held me up at sword point.

07-01-2005, 06:56 AM	#1
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	Holding a blade to your beloved's throat Isn't it funny? It looks like that the surest way to woo a man is to take a sword and to prick his throat with it... Arwen is doing that to Aragorn. Eowyn is doing that to Aragorn. Aragorn seems pleased and impressed. I will not be surprised it there is a rejected scene with Eowyn wooing Furamir thusly . I wonder, perhaps Eowyn tried the same trick with the Witch-King, only missed a little?

07-01-2005, 06:57 PM	#2
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07-04-2005, 11:35 AM	#5
Halbarad of the Dunedain Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Arthedian Posts: 460	Your forgetting Sam and Gollum several times if i'm not mistaken, and what about Aragorn and the King of the Dead in Return of the king!? Sparks are flying i think... __________________ "Can you feel her, running through your veins? She will always live forever!" ~ Atreyu [Her portrait in Black] "I want to see pretty people doing ugly things..." ~ Unknown "Damn it n' such!" ~ Stewie Griffen

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Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	That's RIGHT! I forgot about those two, how funny!! __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

07-02-2005, 03:35 PM	#3
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	Sure, how could I have forgotten!

07-10-2005, 03:38 PM	#8
Daphne_daughter_of_Eowyn Hobbit Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 37	Cool! I think the Arwen and Eowyn holding swords to Aragorn is very suggestive. I think that idea is a good one. It does look a bit suggestive, doesn't it? A bit flirty too. Last edited by Daphne_daughter_of_Eowyn : 07-10-2005 at 03:43 PM.

07-12-2005, 07:09 PM	#11
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	It is a bit suggestive, but it wasn't a good idea IMO to assume that Aragorn was so kinky. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

07-13-2005, 12:59 PM	#12
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	I think its bulls--t. In real life, no one - no man, no woman, no elf or whatever, would find it cute, flirty, sexy, or in any way a positive thing to be brought to a swordpoint. Have you ever been stabbed? Do you know what it feels like? Like Crazy Squirrel says, what do you think Aragorn's TRUE instinctive warrior reaction would have been? You think he'd feel all warm and fuzzy about some chick who made HIM feel weak and defeated?!? I mean, REAL LIFE! Please, this isn't real life, it's the movies were talking about here. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

07-13-2005, 06:40 PM	#14
CrazySquirrel Shape-shifting, men-grabbing NAZGUL Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 796	My main point was that no chick could ever had a chance to best Aragorn or even to creep on him unawares. If Aragorn was that careless he wouldn't have survived a month in the wilderness.

07-14-2005, 12:11 AM	#16
Tree Dweller Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The bulls-eye for recent hurricanes, but I still love these white sands....nothing compares. Posts: 129	I can't guess Peter Jackson's motive for it, but maybe he was just trying to give the women a strong presence so the are not lost behind the men. __________________ ------------------------------------------- Miracles are a retelling in small letters of the very same story which is written across the whole world in letters too large for some of us to see. C. S. Lewis ------------------------------------------- I always liked going South, somehow it feels like going downhill. Treebeard ------------------------------------------- ~~Diary of a Beach Bum~~

07-14-2005, 12:35 AM	#17
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	But, sneaky with a sword does not necessarily translate as strong. A good screenwriter with some respectful alliegance to Tolkien could have written in real character strength without having to rely on cheap tactics like the old tip-of-blade-to-other-person's-neck ploy. (anybody seen those old Pink Panther movies?) __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

07-23-2005, 03:16 AM	#18
The_Star_Earendil Sapling Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3	maybe they were just trying to help him shave u know he missed a spot they might not like that stubble beard stuff

07-24-2005, 06:55 PM	#19
Acalewia Halfelven Daughter of the Dunedain, President of Entmoot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In trouble. As usual. Posts: 4,674	Arwen is an Elf and from what I understand you can't hear one sneak up on you. Also, in case you didn't notice, Aragon had a very perterbed look on his face as she said, "What's this? A Ranger? Caught off his guard?" __________________ "Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!"~ inked Don't meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. "Don't be such a sour wolf" Stiles ~ Heart Monitor http://www.wattpad.com/user/IceQueenofMitera

07-24-2005, 11:39 PM	#20
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	I dunno, guys. I'd think it was TOTALLY hot if a chick held me up at sword point.