Favorite Fortress

Haradrim · 08-21-2004, 08:43 AM

There are many fortresses in ME but what is your Favorite fortress ie-Minas Tirith, Dol GOldur, and so on. I have to go with Erebor. I loved the hobbit. Not more than LOTR but I loved the descriptions of it in its glory days also I love how close it is to Dale, my favorite city in Middle Earth.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-21-2004, 10:26 AM

Well, I love all things Finrod. So my favorite fortress would be the underground fortress of Nargothrond.

Haradrim · 08-21-2004, 10:33 AM

Nargothrond was my second choice. But I stil have to go with Erebor. IT was my first real fortress as I read Hobbit first so I have a special connection with it

BeardofPants · 08-21-2004, 03:41 PM

Possibly Menegroth... With Gondolin a close second. Oh, and Angband.

***Earniel*** · 08-21-2004, 04:03 PM

Not really a real battle-fortress like the first Minas Tirith persay, but still a place that could stand strong and be locked against an enemy, so I choose Menegroth. Possibly because I once saw a gorgeous drawing of it and the description:

Quote:

[...]Beyond the gates wide passages ran down to high halls and chambers far below that were hewn in the living stone, so many and so great that that dwelling was named Menegroth, the Thousand Caves. But the Elves also had part in that labour, and Elves and Dwarves together, each with their own skill, there wrought out of visions of Melian, images of the wonder and beauty of valinor beyond the Sea. The pillars of Menegroth were hewn in the likeness of the beeches of Oromë, stock, bought, and leaf, and they were lit with lanterns of gold. The nightingales sang there as in the gardens of Lórien; and there were fountains of silver, and basins of marble, and floors of many-coloured stones. carven figures of beasts and birds there ran upon the walls, or climbed upon the pillars, or peered among the branches entwined with many flowers. And as the years passed Melian and her maidens filled the halls with woven hangings wherein could be read the deeds of the Valar, and many things that had befallen in Arda since its beginning, and shadows of things that were yet to be. That was the fairest dwelling of any king that has ever been east of the Sea.

...just says it all, doesn't it?

*dreamy, happy sigh*

Haradrim · 08-21-2004, 05:32 PM

Is that quote from the SIlmarillion?

***Earniel*** · 08-21-2004, 05:38 PM

Yes, from chapter 10: Of the Sindar.

Haradrim · 08-21-2004, 05:40 PM

okay copool I am just about to get there. You know if Erebor wasnt my favorite I wouldnt go with Nargotthrond. I think I would have to go with Moira. It was a fortress in its day. A darn big one too. And they never were successfully atacked from the outside they just unleashed a Balrog right iun their midst. So I have to say Erebor- 1 and Moria- 2

Telcontar_Dunedain · 08-22-2004, 06:45 AM

I quite like Helms Deep. I mean it was meant to be built by giants but I'd have to say that or Moria is my favourite.

Haradrim · 08-22-2004, 06:51 AM

Hmm I just noticed that I have a liking to dwarves a lot. hmmm... though I usually dont like dwarven characters except in the Hobbit an LOTR. Thats odd. In every other fantasy book Ive read I hate the dwarves. I wonder why?

trolls' bane · 08-30-2004, 09:48 PM

Valinor, I'd have to say. If the mountains count as walls, like their described in The Sil (at least that's how I took it).

Attalus · 08-31-2004, 01:29 PM

Khazad-Dûm. I'd love to have visited when Durin was King and when the Dwarves were young and strong.

Draken · 09-01-2004, 10:04 AM

I have a problem with Helm's Deep. Why carefully place the main keep on a spur behind a bend in the stream (in the book that is, the geography was different in the film) and then build a nice, wide, gentle ramp right up to the front door? There wasn't even a drawbridge to make things a bit difficult for any attacker!

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-01-2004, 11:09 AM

Yeah but it was built by giants.

brownjenkins · 09-01-2004, 11:20 AM

rivendell... good food, drink and company

in war, probably gondolin

***Valandil*** · 09-01-2004, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

Yeah but it was built by giants.

Really? Where do you read that?

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-01-2004, 01:01 PM

Tolkien illustrated Encyclopedia or at least it said something about giants helping the Dunedain build it.

***Valandil*** · 09-01-2004, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

Tolkien illustrated Encyclopedia or at least it said something about giants helping the Dunedain build it.

General rule of thumb: If Tolkien didn't say it, it's mere speculation. I don't believe he authored that particular work, did he?

Attalus · 09-01-2004, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brownjenkins

rivendell... good food, drink and company

That's where I'd have my winter home.

trolls' bane · 09-01-2004, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valandil

General rule of thumb: If Tolkien didn't say it, it's mere speculation. I don't believe he authored that particular work, did he?

I remember reading that somewhere in the book, too. I think he did say that it was told that it was built by giants, meaning that it probably was true, but you know those M-Etians. They never tell the person who's writing about them the full story correctly

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08-21-2004, 08:43 AM	#1
Haradrim The Official Court Jester of the Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Far Harad Posts: 1,006	Favorite Fortress There are many fortresses in ME but what is your Favorite fortress ie-Minas Tirith, Dol GOldur, and so on. I have to go with Erebor. I loved the hobbit. Not more than LOTR but I loved the descriptions of it in its glory days also I love how close it is to Dale, my favorite city in Middle Earth. __________________ A Bit More Grown Up This Time...

08-21-2004, 10:26 AM	#2
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Well, I love all things Finrod. So my favorite fortress would be the underground fortress of Nargothrond. __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

08-21-2004, 10:33 AM	#3
Haradrim The Official Court Jester of the Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Far Harad Posts: 1,006	Nargothrond was my second choice. But I stil have to go with Erebor. IT was my first real fortress as I read Hobbit first so I have a special connection with it __________________ A Bit More Grown Up This Time...

08-21-2004, 03:41 PM	#4
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Possibly Menegroth... With Gondolin a close second. Oh, and Angband. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-21-2004, 05:32 PM	#6
Haradrim The Official Court Jester of the Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Far Harad Posts: 1,006	Is that quote from the SIlmarillion? __________________ A Bit More Grown Up This Time...

08-21-2004, 05:38 PM	#7
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Yes, from chapter 10: Of the Sindar. __________________ We are not things.

08-21-2004, 05:40 PM	#8
Haradrim The Official Court Jester of the Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Far Harad Posts: 1,006	okay copool I am just about to get there. You know if Erebor wasnt my favorite I wouldnt go with Nargotthrond. I think I would have to go with Moira. It was a fortress in its day. A darn big one too. And they never were successfully atacked from the outside they just unleashed a Balrog right iun their midst. So I have to say Erebor- 1 and Moria- 2 __________________ A Bit More Grown Up This Time...

08-22-2004, 06:45 AM	#9
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	I quite like Helms Deep. I mean it was meant to be built by giants but I'd have to say that or Moria is my favourite.

08-22-2004, 06:51 AM	#10
Haradrim The Official Court Jester of the Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Far Harad Posts: 1,006	Hmm I just noticed that I have a liking to dwarves a lot. hmmm... though I usually dont like dwarven characters except in the Hobbit an LOTR. Thats odd. In every other fantasy book Ive read I hate the dwarves. I wonder why? __________________ A Bit More Grown Up This Time...

08-30-2004, 09:48 PM	#11
trolls' bane Entmoot Secretary of the Treasury Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Campsite-by-Giraffe Posts: 5,408	Valinor, I'd have to say. If the mountains count as walls, like their described in The Sil (at least that's how I took it). __________________ KI6PFA Amateur Radio Operator

08-31-2004, 01:29 PM	#12
Attalus Swan-Knight of Dol Amroth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: On the Bay of Belfalas Posts: 1,125	Khazad-Dûm. I'd love to have visited when Durin was King and when the Dwarves were young and strong. __________________ "What song the Sirens sang, or what name Achilles assumed when he hid himself among women, though puzzling questions are not beyond conjecture." - Sir Thomas Browne, Urn Burial.

09-01-2004, 10:04 AM	#13
Draken Elf Lord Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, England Posts: 694	I have a problem with Helm's Deep. Why carefully place the main keep on a spur behind a bend in the stream (in the book that is, the geography was different in the film) and then build a nice, wide, gentle ramp right up to the front door? There wasn't even a drawbridge to make things a bit difficult for any attacker! __________________ I'm beset by self-doubt ....or am I?

09-01-2004, 11:09 AM	#14
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Yeah but it was built by giants. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-01-2004, 11:20 AM	#15
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	rivendell... good food, drink and company in war, probably gondolin __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

09-01-2004, 01:01 PM	#17
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Tolkien illustrated Encyclopedia or at least it said something about giants helping the Dunedain build it. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

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