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Old 07-13-2004, 11:23 AM   #1
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Is there a New White Tree?

Can anyone tell? I was watching my ROTK dvd a few days ago - and the last scene at Minas Tirith, where Aragorn is crowned, Arwen comes to him and where they all bow to the four hobbits... in the views where they pan out to show the whole thing, I can't make out on my TV or not whether there's a new White Tree in place.

Can anyone else see it better? Like with a big screen or anything?

Maybe we'll know for sure on the EE...
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:42 PM   #2
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i never noticed... will have to check tonight... i remember the dead one earlier in the film... which is in the same area as the wedding i believ
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Old 07-13-2004, 03:28 PM   #3
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Re: Is there a New White Tree?

You know, I seem to remember seeing one on the big screen when I went to go see it at the Embassy in Wellington...

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Old 07-13-2004, 04:21 PM   #4
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i think there is, i finished watching dvd a couple hours ago, and i am sure there was new tree. and YES i do watch all 3 dvds at least once a week!!
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Old 07-14-2004, 05:04 PM   #5
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I watched RotK the other day, and I don't remember and it has been bothering me. I just put in the dvd and watched Aragorn's crowning and there is a white tree there. I paused the scene just to get a better look and it looks like there is even buds on the tree. Perhaps more attention will be drawn to the tree in the EE version. I don't think much attention was centered on the tree because the general audience (people who never read the books) probably wouldn't have had any idea of the significance of the tree.

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Old 07-14-2004, 06:14 PM   #6
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I always assumed that the white blossoms that are floating everywhere when Aragorn is crowned were from the white tree in bloom.
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Old 07-15-2004, 04:25 PM   #7
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I was thinking either that or they were flower petals.
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Old 08-21-2004, 06:30 AM   #8
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I wouldnt think so because the ceremony seemed to be right after the battle like maybe a week later. So I dont think there would have been time for the palnting. but maybe I am wrong.
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Old 08-22-2004, 10:31 AM   #9
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There will probably be more detail in the extended version.
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Old 08-22-2004, 10:36 AM   #10
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yeah I am sure there will be ten hours worth of making of just abou tthe tree. WOuldnt that be funny. Hehehehehe
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Old 08-23-2004, 02:08 AM   #11
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I remember I read something about a picture of Aragorn and Gandalf either planting the tree or standing next to it for the extended edition. But the article disappeared from theonering.net and so therefore I cant confirm this but I wouldnt doubt it.
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:47 PM   #12
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Yeah they probably have the scene on Mount Mindolius or something.
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I found a picture in a magazine of that scene and there is defianetly a new white tree in that scene.
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Old 08-27-2004, 09:15 AM   #14
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Hence the blossoms!!!!
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Like Haradrim said there is probably a load of stuff in the appendices.
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Old 08-27-2004, 11:42 PM   #16
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yeah there is now way PJ would have forgotten about that. He would have included it and like I said early we will probably get about 2 hours on the making of the two different trees and when the newqw tree is put in and all that jazz.
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Yeah they probably have the scene on Mount Mindolius or something.
Or maybe the scene on Mt. Mindolluin
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Old 10-20-2004, 11:02 AM   #18
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Maybe.
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Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!"

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Old 10-20-2004, 05:13 PM   #19
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I wouldnt think so because the ceremony seemed to be right after the battle like maybe a week later. So I dont think there would have been time for the palnting. but maybe I am wrong.
It may seem only a week later, but in the book it is quite a while (a few months) before the ceremony.
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Just to make things clearer, Aragorn & Gandalf did plant a new White Tree in the book, so yes, the tree at the ceremony is a new one.
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