Baseball Players + Steroids = Home Run Records

***Valandil*** · 03-10-2004, 11:49 AM

Don't think we've chatted about this one. Recently evidence has come to light which accuses certain ML baseball players of using steroids to enhance their physical abilities. Our local paper (Chicago Tribune) had an interesting article - I think on Feb 29 - which spelled out the numbers... what it typically took to win the Home Run Title each year before 1995 - and what it has taken each year since. Also - the numbers of people who hit over 50 home runs in a year before 1995 compared to after 1995.

It's just astounding... it's certainly no statistical anomoly... the very numbers themselves point to something giving players an advantage... and the likely culprit is steroid-use.

What's totally disappointing to me is MLB's response. Their new 'rules' on steroids allow players to get off the hook, even with multiple positive tests. I'd like to see them take this seriously - and aggressively work to get guys out of the game if they use them. Track athletes get a two-year ban with one positive test - lifetime ban with two positive tests... THAT'S taking it seriously!

***Tessar*** · 03-10-2004, 11:50 AM

I agree totally.

If you're gona cheat, you shouldn't be in the game.

Insidious Rex · 03-10-2004, 01:29 PM

That would be great. But in a business where home runs sell millions of tickets they have no real incentive to do anything but just mouth some words but make no action. They know without steroids (and perhaps ball juicing and bat corking?) they wouldnt have nearly as attractive a product. So the hammer will have to come down from a hire source if there is ever anything to be done here. And ultimately its the players union that will have the most at stake in fighting it.

Beruthiel's cat · 03-10-2004, 04:29 PM

It's a shame that players feel the need to jeopardize their health in order to make themselves more valuable and viable commodities to the team owners. Everyone involved in MLB is aware of the risks that steriod use poses to individuals. Not only are there nasty side-effects, but the long term effects are devastating. What is also disturbing is the use of "designer" steriods that are difficult or impossible to detect. Serious measures should be taken to end the use of steriods in all sports, but (unfortunately) the bottom line will have to be placed in jeopardy before anyone pays attention.

03-10-2004, 11:49 AM	#1
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Baseball Players + Steroids = Home Run Records Don't think we've chatted about this one. Recently evidence has come to light which accuses certain ML baseball players of using steroids to enhance their physical abilities. Our local paper (Chicago Tribune) had an interesting article - I think on Feb 29 - which spelled out the numbers... what it typically took to win the Home Run Title each year before 1995 - and what it has taken each year since. Also - the numbers of people who hit over 50 home runs in a year before 1995 compared to after 1995. It's just astounding... it's certainly no statistical anomoly... the very numbers themselves point to something giving players an advantage... and the likely culprit is steroid-use. What's totally disappointing to me is MLB's response. Their new 'rules' on steroids allow players to get off the hook, even with multiple positive tests. I'd like to see them take this seriously - and aggressively work to get guys out of the game if they use them. Track athletes get a two-year ban with one positive test - lifetime ban with two positive tests... THAT'S taking it seriously! __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

03-10-2004, 01:29 PM	#3
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	That would be great. But in a business where home runs sell millions of tickets they have no real incentive to do anything but just mouth some words but make no action. They know without steroids (and perhaps ball juicing and bat corking?) they wouldnt have nearly as attractive a product. So the hammer will have to come down from a hire source if there is ever anything to be done here. And ultimately its the players union that will have the most at stake in fighting it. __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

03-10-2004, 04:29 PM	#4
Beruthiel's cat mystical divinity of Unashamed Felinity Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New York's beautiful North Coast -- we're all mad here!!! Posts: 635	It's a shame that players feel the need to jeopardize their health in order to make themselves more valuable and viable commodities to the team owners. Everyone involved in MLB is aware of the risks that steriod use poses to individuals. Not only are there nasty side-effects, but the long term effects are devastating. What is also disturbing is the use of "designer" steriods that are difficult or impossible to detect. Serious measures should be taken to end the use of steriods in all sports, but (unfortunately) the bottom line will have to be placed in jeopardy before anyone pays attention. __________________ "Never try to out-stubborn a cat!" -- R. Heinlein ~~~~~~~~~ "But I don't want to be among mad people, " Alice remarked. "Oh, but you can't help that," said the Cat; "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." ~~ Lewis Carroll ~~~~~~~~~~~ Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana...

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03-10-2004, 11:50 AM	#2
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	I agree totally. If you're gona cheat, you shouldn't be in the game.