What do you think of Eminem?

afro-elf · 08-15-2002, 01:43 PM

I find him funny in a low brow manner. The same low brow humor that South Park exhibits.

I think people take what he says too seriously.

Your opinions.

StrawberryIcecream · 08-15-2002, 02:19 PM

I like him.
I dont like some of the things he says to look hard for hid image but i think he songs are very very thought provoking and that is sometimes a good thing. I only listen to them on mtv but i do have to say i like all the new ones like clearing out my closet or something. I thought stan was VERY good as well cos it basically said 'dont take everything i say seriously', and i think in modern society peoiple do need to be told that!

BeardofPants · 08-15-2002, 03:47 PM

Suxor...

Rána Eressëa · 08-15-2002, 05:43 PM

I love his new album better than the rest of his stuff (I still like the old songs, though). "Hailies Song" is my fave right now. It's actually a sweet one lyrically by Eminem - catch it while you can before it mysteriously vanishes.

Sween · 08-15-2002, 08:38 PM

Hes a very clever lyrisist, Homm im still drunk. no i like him his song aint restricted to saying what his name is and where he is from. bit of a tosser probably.

mirrille · 08-16-2002, 01:12 AM

Don't like him.
I like South Park alot more. At least South Park is cute, in its own strange way.
I find him annoying...in a whiny sort of way. How do I explain it...?My natural reaction to his supposed clever lyrics is something along the lines of "how childish!". Not my thing, I guess.

Sween · 08-16-2002, 05:17 AM

Many of his lyric are not childish at all. Was there anything childish about Stan? i like his new song there are some good lines in that.

I think some people can take him too seriously though he does have a worring complex about his mother.

galadriel88 · 08-16-2002, 05:14 PM

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What do you think of Eminem?

He's sick. I'm sorry but I have better things to do with my time than listen to songs about murder and drugs and killing your parents and things like that. That's not to say I don't like "deep" songs - I do, but this is just sick. Plus I don't really like rap anyway.

Starr Polish · 08-16-2002, 06:40 PM

I do not like his music, if you could call it that. I personally don't listen to rap anyway, but I can't get away from his songs. They're everywhere. More later, have to go...

BeardofPants · 08-16-2002, 06:42 PM

There is *some* good rap, and eminem ain't it.

StrawberryIcecream · 08-17-2002, 09:46 AM

hahahahaha!

childish? sometimes. and i cannot stand rapping. i hate it. BUT i like his music. And i still think stan was the most provoking song ive heard. and if music lyrics arent meant to make you think then what are they for?

mirrille · 08-18-2002, 03:38 AM

Stan:
whine whine whine whine
(intersperse some clips of Dido singing. phew! at least her voice isn't whiny.)
whine whine whine whine
~oh and by the way I'm a deranged girlfriend killer, but I'm going to whine about that too~
whine whine whine whine
(Eminem - Ooooh. Aren't I clever? I've managed to use some more shock tactics! Haha! I've got your attention now! - as he laughs all the way to the bank.)

- Let's just say I'm not buying any of his albums any time soon. I find him somewhat tiresome. I'll leave it to other people to buy his stuff and save my money for other things. My musical tastes are somewhat strange by most people's standards anyways. It's very rare that I will stop and say "hey! that's a really clever lyric!" and so far Eminem has not remotely approached that. Which is fair enough. He is obviously going for a different audience, but that was clear from the first single of his I ever heard. Nothing I have heard since contradicts that. He's obviously found what works for him, which i suppose is a good thing.

GandalfTheWhite · 08-18-2002, 04:01 AM

eminem is the man, im not a really huge fan of his music and dont listen to it on a regular bases but some of it is decent, but i think that anyone that can manipulate people and make as much money as he can off it rules.

Rána Eressëa · 08-18-2002, 10:39 AM

Mostly I like his music for the beats, rhythm, and humor. He's all about controversy, and I kinda am myself.

If you want a very toned down and humorous Eminem song, try "Bad Guys Always Die".

galadriel88 · 08-18-2002, 02:44 PM

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and if music lyrics arent meant to make you think then what are they for?

I like music that makes me think, but this doesn't. I like lyrics that have meaning - lyrics that aren't full of cussing every third word, don't go into extensive plans to murder your parents/rape and murder a random chick, or reminisce and brag about all the dirty, evil stuff you've done.

BeardofPants · 08-18-2002, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by Rána Eressëa
He's all about controversy

It's been done.

He is not new, he is not unique, he is not controversial.

Starr Polish · 08-18-2002, 06:49 PM

Not much is controversial anymore, anyway.

Eminem's lyrics make me think. They make me think I'm going to turn the radio off.

BeardofPants · 08-18-2002, 07:08 PM

Maybe if he starts eating live bats, I'll think he's controversial... Oh. That's already taken?

Rána Eressëa · 08-18-2002, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by BeardofPants
It's been done.

He is not new, he is not unique, he is not controversial.

I know it's been done before. Almost anything is controversial. But just look around this thread - he's doing a good job of being singled out and noticed, even if it is through dislike. Flaming Eminem only gives him more recognition as it is.

Actually, he is unique. Very few rappers can give you: a rhythm that's awesome, lyrics that are disgusting yet still 90% hilarious (I could do without the sex words and mentions of rape - those aren't particularly likable), and a flow as smooth as his. He is unique. Just most people wouldn't like to acknowledge it because they claim it's all been done before. Sure, it may have been done before. But this is the real question: was it done right?

And Eminem is one of few who have finally done it right.

BeardofPants · 08-18-2002, 11:00 PM

Again... it's been done.

White person takes black music. White person makes it more likable to white culture. White person rich.

Besides, Run DMC are funnier. IMHO.

08-15-2002, 01:43 PM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	What do you think of Eminem? I find him funny in a low brow manner. The same low brow humor that South Park exhibits. I think people take what he says too seriously. Your opinions. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

08-15-2002, 02:19 PM	#2
StrawberryIcecream Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In my jeans Posts: 915	I like him. I dont like some of the things he says to look hard for hid image but i think he songs are very very thought provoking and that is sometimes a good thing. I only listen to them on mtv but i do have to say i like all the new ones like clearing out my closet or something. I thought stan was VERY good as well cos it basically said 'dont take everything i say seriously', and i think in modern society peoiple do need to be told that! __________________ www.foolofatook.com for all you pippin's out there.

08-15-2002, 03:47 PM	#3
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Suxor... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-15-2002, 08:38 PM	#5
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Hes a very clever lyrisist, Homm im still drunk. no i like him his song aint restricted to saying what his name is and where he is from. bit of a tosser probably. __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

08-16-2002, 05:17 AM	#7
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Many of his lyric are not childish at all. Was there anything childish about Stan? i like his new song there are some good lines in that. I think some people can take him too seriously though he does have a worring complex about his mother. __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

08-15-2002, 05:43 PM	#4
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I love his new album better than the rest of his stuff (I still like the old songs, though). "Hailies Song" is my fave right now. It's actually a sweet one lyrically by Eminem - catch it while you can before it mysteriously vanishes.

08-16-2002, 01:12 AM	#6
mirrille Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 479	Don't like him. I like South Park alot more. At least South Park is cute, in its own strange way. I find him annoying...in a whiny sort of way. How do I explain it...?My natural reaction to his supposed clever lyrics is something along the lines of "how childish!". Not my thing, I guess.

08-16-2002, 06:40 PM	#9
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I do not like his music, if you could call it that. I personally don't listen to rap anyway, but I can't get away from his songs. They're everywhere. More later, have to go... __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

08-16-2002, 06:42 PM	#10
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	There is some good rap, and eminem ain't it. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-17-2002, 09:46 AM	#11
StrawberryIcecream Elf Lord Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In my jeans Posts: 915	hahahahaha! childish? sometimes. and i cannot stand rapping. i hate it. BUT i like his music. And i still think stan was the most provoking song ive heard. and if music lyrics arent meant to make you think then what are they for? __________________ www.foolofatook.com for all you pippin's out there.

08-18-2002, 03:38 AM	#12
mirrille Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 479	Stan: whine whine whine whine (intersperse some clips of Dido singing. phew! at least her voice isn't whiny.) whine whine whine whine ~oh and by the way I'm a deranged girlfriend killer, but I'm going to whine about that too~ whine whine whine whine (Eminem - Ooooh. Aren't I clever? I've managed to use some more shock tactics! Haha! I've got your attention now! - as he laughs all the way to the bank.) - Let's just say I'm not buying any of his albums any time soon. I find him somewhat tiresome. I'll leave it to other people to buy his stuff and save my money for other things. My musical tastes are somewhat strange by most people's standards anyways. It's very rare that I will stop and say "hey! that's a really clever lyric!" and so far Eminem has not remotely approached that. Which is fair enough. He is obviously going for a different audience, but that was clear from the first single of his I ever heard. Nothing I have heard since contradicts that. He's obviously found what works for him, which i suppose is a good thing.

08-18-2002, 04:01 AM	#13
GandalfTheWhite Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 297	eminem is the man, im not a really huge fan of his music and dont listen to it on a regular bases but some of it is decent, but i think that anyone that can manipulate people and make as much money as he can off it rules. __________________ "Behold, I am not Gandalf the Grey, whom you betrayed. I am Gandalf the White, who has returned from death. You have no colour now, and I cast you from the order and from the Council." -Gandalf The Road goes ever on and on Down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, And I must follow, if I can, Pursuing it with eager feet, Until it joins some larger way Where many paths and errands meet. And whither then? I cannot say. "He who breaks a thing to find out what it is, has left the path of wisdom." -Gandalf "A thing is about to happen which has not happened since the Elder Days: the Ents are going to wake up and find that they are strong." -Gandalf

08-18-2002, 10:39 AM	#14
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Mostly I like his music for the beats, rhythm, and humor. He's all about controversy, and I kinda am myself. If you want a very toned down and humorous Eminem song, try "Bad Guys Always Die".

08-18-2002, 06:49 PM	#17
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Not much is controversial anymore, anyway. Eminem's lyrics make me think. They make me think I'm going to turn the radio off. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

08-18-2002, 07:08 PM	#18
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Maybe if he starts eating live bats, I'll think he's controversial... Oh. That's already taken? __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-18-2002, 11:00 PM	#20
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Again... it's been done. White person takes black music. White person makes it more likable to white culture. White person rich. Besides, Run DMC are funnier. IMHO. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

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