Classical Music II

[Earniel]

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The original thread starter was hectorberlioz.

[hectorberlioz]

I thank Earniel for doing this for me...if Troll's Bane or Mercutio had restarted this thread, I would've leapt at them with my Iron Jaws ...but since it was only innocent Earniel, I forgive her that she gets credit for opening this thread...


Anyways. I recently finished putting all of my non-opera music (including some opera) onto my ipod. Very, very, very hard to do. I had to manually enter all of the names for each track (can you imagine my chagrin> < when I realized that I'd started naming Chopin's Nocturnes from track 7 on?!!! ), which resulted in multiple headaches each night. This morning I woke up and had my hair not too dissimilar to Wolverine's.

On a much worse note: some friends of mine from a Berlioz message board have informed me that the EU wants to get rid of Pipe Organs! I'm not talking about a pipe, stuck in one of your organs, I'm not talking about your vocal pipes; O those glorious "organs"...I speak of these: Westminster Abbey Organ
Notre Dame , These, called the King of Instruments...the ones that have been played by Bach, Handel, Franck, Saint-saens, Bruckner, Widor, Schweitzer, Faure!!
And why? Because lead figures into the making of the pipes, and lead is poisonous. Lead IS poisonous, but there is NO case where any organ manufacturers have had lead poisoning.
What I really want to know is why they think it so important. It isnt as if organs exude leaden fumes, thus poisoning the congregants in the church (if there are any).

[trolls' bane]

Cool! Now I can be the third poster in this thread! Yay!
And to start out, I just want to complain about how kids these days (excluding me and a very very miniscule--probably "one part per million" to use scientific terms--number of others) don't know ANYTHING about classical. They think that Rhapsody in Blue was coined by an airline company, that Vivaldi's Spring (that is the most famous, right? I think one of my CDs mislabled it, so I'm confused) came from football. I don't particularly like Mozart, he is not my favorite at all, nor is Beethoven, but sure enough, the kids stereotype any classical music as "Beethoven" or "Mozart", and every now and then you run across a less ghetto one that will go so far as saying "Bach", and rarer still, they will remember one or two composers with what they think are funny names, such as Meyerbeer.

[Spock]

I love the Jupiter Symphony.

[b.banner]

i more of a Beatle fan but i love The Planets by Gustav Holst

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Imperial March anyone? John Philip Souza? Don't they qualify as classic?

[hectorberlioz]

Originally Posted by trolls' bane

Cool! Now I can be the third poster in this thread! Yay!
And to start out, I just want to complain about how kids these days (excluding me and a very very miniscule--probably "one part per million" to use scientific terms--number of others) don't know ANYTHING about classical. They think that Rhapsody in Blue was coined by an airline company, that Vivaldi's Spring (that is the most famous, right? I think one of my CDs mislabled it, so I'm confused) came from football. I don't particularly like Mozart, he is not my favorite at all, nor is Beethoven, but sure enough, the kids stereotype any classical music as "Beethoven" or "Mozart", and every now and then you run across a less ghetto one that will go so far as saying "Bach", and rarer still, they will remember one or two composers with what they think are funny names, such as Meyerbeer.

Exactly how I feel TB! *high fives*
for me its always, "oh yeah, Beethoven" or "do you play an instrument?"
Or what about those who insist that classical is merely background music?
On one aleatory occasion (I'm not 100% sure what aleatory means, but it DOES fit here), I was at Hastings. This guy my age starts looking through, and he pulls out a cheapish disc of the 3 famous Beethoven sonatas...and he says to his dad "I'm trying to find the perfect recording of the first movement of the "Moonlight" sonata".
Well, I thought I'd put his attention to Ashkenazy's recording, and I suggested it. He didn't look at me like he was weirded out, but he was kindof passive, as if trying to decide what the heck I was trying to do..."is this guy trying to tell ME what to buy?", I'm sure he thought: and his real reply showcased his thought clearly enough. "No thanks, I'm just looking".
I had to roll my eyes...though I didnt go so far as to play marbles with them, but I felt like it!!!

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Imperial March anyone? John Philip Souza? Don't they qualify as classic?

Actually, they do. There are some snobs who consider Sousa like they do Strauss II, or Sullivan: as frivolous rubbish. But that is not the case with me, I carry respect especially for the Waltzing Strausses.

Originally Posted by Spock

I love the Jupiter Symphony.

aka, the G minor Symphony

Originally Posted by Troll's Bane

Originally Vomited by Troll's Bane
Oh! Wow! And I wasn't even being sarcastic!
EDIT: Oooo! I made the 1000th reply, 1001st post! w00t!
Beat that, hector!

[trolls' bane]

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Exactly how I feel TB! *high fives*
for me its always, "oh yeah, Beethoven" or "do you play an instrument?"

My answers to those (respectively) are "Actually..." (with attidude and sarcasm) and "No...I wish."

Originally Posted by Hector

Or what about those who insist that classical is merely background music?
On one aleatory occasion (I'm not 100% sure what aleatory means, but it DOES fit here), I was at Hastings. This guy my age starts looking through, and he pulls out a cheapish disc of the 3 famous Beethoven sonatas...and he says to his dad "I'm trying to find the perfect recording of the first movement of the "Moonlight" sonata".
Well, I thought I'd put his attention to Ashkenazy's recording, and I suggested it. He didn't look at me like he was weirded out, but he was kindof passive, as if trying to decide what the heck I was trying to do..."is this guy trying to tell ME what to buy?", I'm sure he thought: and his real reply showcased his thought clearly enough. "No thanks, I'm just looking".
I had to roll my eyes...though I didnt go so far as to play marbles with them, but I felt like it!!!

LOL! That rarely happens to me. I'm most likely the only one on the classica aisle, with nearly black hands because no one has ever really moved the disks (and the few who have ended up screwing up the order, so I have to keep LOOKING for everything).

Originally Posted by Windgem

Imperial March anyone? John Philip Souza? Don't they qualify as classic?

Ah, memories...

Originally Posted by trolls' bane, first post in original Classical Music thread

Does the music from the music hall in my Rogue Squadron II game count? I'm listening to that right now.
Anyway, most of my favorite classical music is famous, my favorate being Motzart 40, I think.

[Gwaimir Windgem]

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Exactly how I feel TB! *high fives*
Actually, they do. There are some snobs who consider Sousa like they do Strauss II, or Sullivan: as frivolous rubbish. But that is not the case with me, I carry respect especially for the Waltzing Strausses.

Well, even if you count John Philip, surely you don't count the Imperial March.

[hectorberlioz]

Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Well, even if you count John Philip, surely you don't count the Imperial March.

Well, since John Williams has written a Violin Concerto and a Cello Concerto, his film scores are definitely classical...after all, Bernard Herrmann's scores for Hitchcock's films are considered classical

It does count.



Added:
Tchaikovsky: Syms 2 & 6/Romeo&Juliet Overture/ Francesca da Rimini
Tchaikovsky: String Serenade/Suite No.4/Andante Cantabile
Gounod: Faust - Ghiarouv - Sutherland - Boynyge
Vaughn Williams: Syms 3 & 5
Bach: 6 Favorite Cantatas - Joshua Rufkin
Bach: Mass in B minor/ Mass in F
Ravel: Complete Piano Music
Ravel/Debussy: Music for Piano 2Hand and 2 Pianos


Yes, Fat Middle! I found the exact recording of the Bach Cantatas that you'd recommended. Wonderful stuff!!

[Whispering Willow]

Originally Posted by trolls' bane

And to start out, I just want to complain about how kids these days (excluding me and a very very miniscule--probably "one part per million" to use scientific terms--number of others) don't know ANYTHING about classical.

Please forgive me?

I may put on a classical CD every now and then, usually a collection with various composers, and have no clue what is what, I just listen to the stuff. Started putting it on my computer, but adding the correct info to the files (I'm kinda obsessive about that) took me forever, so I abandoned the project.

[hectorberlioz]

Originally Posted by Whispering Willow

Please forgive me?

I may put on a classical CD every now and then, usually a collection with various composers, and have no clue what is what, I just listen to the stuff. Started putting it on my computer, but adding the correct info to the files (I'm kinda obsessive about that) took me forever, so I abandoned the project.

You'll have to excuse Mr.TB in a moment of passion, all of us Classicists tend to get too hyped up for our own good...

Welcome to Entmoot!

[trolls' bane]

Moment of passion? What's that? What did I do? Did I kill someone? *blinks at imagined D.A.*
Imagined Jury: We find the defendant, Mr. Helliwell, guilty of murder in the second degree.
Rod Serling: Nope.
Jury: *gasp* You were dead!
Dr. Zaius: But, I killed you!
Rod Serling: You idiot! *throws the same cast iron skillet that Dr. Z. used to "kill" him at Dr. Z. It bounces harmlessly off his head* This is the Twilight Zone, not Law & Order.
Jack MacCoy, the District Attourney: Objection! Heresy!
Dr. Z: That's my line, pal. Don't you go insulting the gangstuhs!
MacCoy: But I'm on your side...
Dr. Z: Oh, I's sorry, dawg. I just don't like none of them humans.
Carl Sagan: But, there are billions and billions of humans!
Judge (who happens to be named Harry Callouhaun): Shut up! Or I'll shoot you with my .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and will blow your head clean off. Do you feel lucky today? Well, DO ya, punk?

[trolls' bane]

Here we go! Opera and science!
Nixon (?):
Telecommunication,
has broadcast your message...
into spaaaaace!

[hectorberlioz]

Not an Adams fan actually...I prefer Glass and Reich (so far), and there's a wonderful piece called The Frontier by (David?) Heath.

[trolls' bane]

Well, I'll look that up. Nixon got on my nerves. Perhaps the recording I first listened to was the better. After all, KUSC always plays the best, when I'm not available to write them down.

[Elfhelm]

Yeah, I haven't liked those minimalist operas.

I liked William Bolcom's "A View From the Bridge". And I have been enjoying Roger Waters' new work "Ca Ira".

But mostly I don't seem to connect with any opera since Britten.

[hectorberlioz]

Have you Listened to Pfiztner's "Palestrina", Previn's "A Streetcar"? Neithe have I...but if you do, tell me about them .

[trolls' bane]

I never understood why people consider Frank Sinatra, et. al., as classical music... Oh well!



South of the border - down mexico way
Thats where I fell in love, where the stars above - came out to play
And now as I wander - my thoughts ever stray
South of the border - down mexico way

She was a picture - in old spanish lace
Just for a tender while, I kissed a smile - upon her face
cause it was fiesta - and we were so gay
South of the border - mexico way

Then she smiled as she whispered manjanna
Never dreaming that we were parting
Then I lied as a whispered manjanna
cause our tomorrow never came

South of the border - I jumped back one day
There in a veil of white, by the candle light - she knelt to pray
The mission bells told me (ding-dong) - that I musnt stay
South of the border - mexico way

[trolls' bane]

When I'm really tired, when most classical music would annoy me, I just can't get enough of the Time Square dance thing.