The Problem of Padme

hectorberlioz · 07-22-2006, 01:18 PM

Does anyone else besides me think that Padme is the cause of at least 52% of the new movies' problems?

I'm telling you, that girl CANNOT act! I hear so much praise for her all the time, and I think to myself "Are these people crazy?" Liking her for her looks is one thing, but for her acting?

And I am of the opinion that, without Padme as we know her, all the Prequels would have been improved. Other problems are there too, yes. But even Jar Jar became better as the series went on, while Padme and Portman's acting became worse!

Lizra · 07-22-2006, 08:26 PM

Yeah...she was too pretty, not real. That girl needed some sarcasm....or something.

durinsbane2244 · 07-23-2006, 01:46 PM

personally, i hated the character and actress and everything. like i hate "miss elizabeth" in pirates and that AWFUL guenivere in King Arthur...i hate keira nightly...and yeah, i eliminated the "k" because she doesn't deserve knighthood...

i just hate what they've done with the characters in general. i find it obvious that they were just trying too hard for a strong female character. now, don't get me wrong, i think that strong female characters are great, but not when it's obvious that the writers were doing it intentionally. bah...makes me sick...i hope you know what i mean and don't get me to be some great sexist, because i'm not. so there.

cee2lee2 · 07-23-2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizra

Yeah...she was too pretty, not real. That girl needed some sarcasm....or something.

Yes....there is no way I can imagine her as Leia's mother.

The Telcontarion · 07-23-2006, 11:35 PM

I actually liked the character and the actress, I just thought the movies should have been a directed by someone other than Lucas; he is good (THX 1138-loved it), but he had not directed in how manye years. He should have known he would be rusty.

brownjenkins · 07-25-2006, 04:21 PM

She was okay. Nowhere near as bad of an actor as the two Anakins.

hectorberlioz · 07-27-2006, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brownjenkins

She was okay. Nowhere near as bad of an actor as the two Anakins.

Jake Lloyd was Dustin Hoffman compared to Natalie Portman...

Hayden Christiansen suffered from the wrong kind of face for that kind of acting. I always had the impression he'd been in a few Disney Channel Movies...

I can't BELIEVE you liked her!

.....ARGHHHH!!!

I'm sorry people, but this is a subject that really gets me going (also trying to let off steam from more serious thoughts

), and I just can't COMPREHEND liking her acting. I just cannot. Her looks? Ok. I'll admit she pretty, though not nearly as pretty as Leia...

Anyone noticed that Padme, who had such an annoying honeyed voice, sucked all the honey out of her family genes so Leia ended up with a scraggly vioce?

Really, she just makes your eyes roll...come now Padme! What kind of line is: "Oh Ani, You're breaking my Heart!" ???? You'd think she'd been listening to Simon and Garfunkel* just before she popped out of Obi's ship.

Durinsbane, thumbs up! Coincidence that Keira played Portman's decoy in Ep.I?

*"Oh Sylvia! You're breaking my heart, you're breaking my heart blah blah blah blah..."

durinsbane2244 · 07-27-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

Durinsbane, thumbs up!

*salute* y'got it, cheif, anytime. i'm proud to hate hate-able folk!

hectorberlioz · 07-27-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by durinsbane2244

*salute* y'got it, cheif, anytime. i'm proud to hate hate-able folk!

Hehe

. But really, did you know Keira played Sabe?

Padme: This is my handmaiden, in whom I am well-pleased...and uh, she's my decoy.

Gwaimir Windgem · 07-27-2006, 09:00 PM

Not, of course, to mention the fact that the way she DIED so inconveniently makes it VERY hard to explain that Leia said in Ep 6 that she knew her mother to be "kind but sad"....

cee2lee2 · 07-27-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwaimir Windgem

Not, of course, to mention the fact that the way she DIED so inconveniently makes it VERY hard to explain that Leia said in Ep 6 that she knew her mother to be "kind but sad"....

Agreed....I'd call that a MAJOR discontinuity.

hectorberlioz · 08-07-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cee2lee2

Agreed....I'd call that a MAJOR discontinuity.

Indeed! I'd forgotten about that one. So maybe *hopeful* Padme isn't Leia's mother afterall?

XRogue · 08-08-2006, 03:14 PM

Nah, she is. Sorry.

Personally I think most of the problem is that George cannot write dialogue, nor can he direct. After all, if even Ewan McGregor seems to be struggling (and we ALL know he can act) what can you do?

hectorberlioz · 08-10-2006, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by XRogue

Nah, she is. Sorry.

Personally I think most of the problem is that George cannot write dialogue, nor can he direct. After all, if even Ewan McGregor seems to be struggling (and we ALL know he can act) what can you do?

Hmm...You're right about Lucas certainly, but Ewan was able and sucessful even with poopy dialogue. In fact, he's the only redeeming quality about the prequels. I have to disagree that he was struggling...

XRogue · 08-13-2006, 07:32 PM

I said if, I said if!

I didn't see any struggling myself, but then again, with Ewan, why be picky?

hectorberlioz · 08-14-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XRogue

I said if, I said if!

I didn't see any struggling myself, but then again, with Ewan, why be picky?

I know

...it's just that I felt a need to defend the only great quality of those films

XRogue · 08-14-2006, 02:46 PM

You forgot the FX, which as usual were excellent.

But Ewan wasn't the only good actor, how can we forget Chris Lee, Liam Neeson, and of course Ian McDiarmid?

hectorberlioz · 08-14-2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by XRogue

You forgot the FX, which as usual were excellent.

But Ewan wasn't the only good actor, how can we forget Chris Lee, Liam Neeson, and of course Ian McDiarmid?

Yes, they were also great; but Obi was the true beacon.

Now, about the FX; they sure were fancy and thrilling, but what bothers me about the prequels is the level of technology they have: it doesn't match up with the Original technology. All those fancy parachute ships, etc...it sure doesn't make The Empire's fleet look that great after all...I mean, with the technology that even Padme has on her planet, why is a Death Star a surprise at all?

XRogue · 08-15-2006, 10:17 AM

Very true, that bothers me at times.

hectorberlioz · 08-15-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by XRogue

Very true, that bothers me at times.

I'm not sure, but I do think there is a thread on that...I might have even been the one who started it...

07-22-2006, 01:18 PM	#1
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	The Problem of Padme Does anyone else besides me think that Padme is the cause of at least 52% of the new movies' problems? I'm telling you, that girl CANNOT act! I hear so much praise for her all the time, and I think to myself "Are these people crazy?" Liking her for her looks is one thing, but for her acting? And I am of the opinion that, without Padme as we know her, all the Prequels would have been improved. Other problems are there too, yes. But even Jar Jar became better as the series went on, while Padme and Portman's acting became worse! __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

07-22-2006, 08:26 PM	#2
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Yeah...she was too pretty, not real. That girl needed some sarcasm....or something. __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

07-23-2006, 01:46 PM	#3
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	personally, i hated the character and actress and everything. like i hate "miss elizabeth" in pirates and that AWFUL guenivere in King Arthur...i hate keira nightly...and yeah, i eliminated the "k" because she doesn't deserve knighthood... i just hate what they've done with the characters in general. i find it obvious that they were just trying too hard for a strong female character. now, don't get me wrong, i think that strong female characters are great, but not when it's obvious that the writers were doing it intentionally. bah...makes me sick...i hope you know what i mean and don't get me to be some great sexist, because i'm not. so there. __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

07-23-2006, 11:35 PM	#5
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07-25-2006, 04:21 PM	#6
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	She was okay. Nowhere near as bad of an actor as the two Anakins. __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

07-27-2006, 09:00 PM	#10
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Not, of course, to mention the fact that the way she DIED so inconveniently makes it VERY hard to explain that Leia said in Ep 6 that she knew her mother to be "kind but sad".... __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

08-08-2006, 03:14 PM	#13
XRogue Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2000 Location: D/FW Texas, USA Posts: 345	Nah, she is. Sorry. Personally I think most of the problem is that George cannot write dialogue, nor can he direct. After all, if even Ewan McGregor seems to be struggling (and we ALL know he can act) what can you do? __________________ Farewell wherever you fare, till your Eyries recieve you at the journey's end.

08-13-2006, 07:32 PM	#15
XRogue Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2000 Location: D/FW Texas, USA Posts: 345	I said if, I said if! I didn't see any struggling myself, but then again, with Ewan, why be picky? __________________ Farewell wherever you fare, till your Eyries recieve you at the journey's end.

08-14-2006, 02:46 PM	#17
XRogue Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2000 Location: D/FW Texas, USA Posts: 345	You forgot the FX, which as usual were excellent. But Ewan wasn't the only good actor, how can we forget Chris Lee, Liam Neeson, and of course Ian McDiarmid? __________________ Farewell wherever you fare, till your Eyries recieve you at the journey's end.

08-15-2006, 10:17 AM	#19
XRogue Elven Warrior Join Date: May 2000 Location: D/FW Texas, USA Posts: 345	Very true, that bothers me at times. __________________ Farewell wherever you fare, till your Eyries recieve you at the journey's end.

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