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Old 01-05-2002, 02:13 AM   #1
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Cheap plastic aquarium plants?

I recall an interview with Peter Jackson, and he was explaining the level of creative detail in the film, and to paraphrase, he stated he even had the glasses on the tables completely handblown to his designs because he didn't want someone saying, "Hey! I've got a set of six of those glasses at home!" So he hired glassblowers to create Elven and hobbitish glassware, and so forth.

Er, Peter, so why the plastic aquarium plants?

At the Battle of the Gladden Fields, when Isildur is waylaid by Orcs, and the Ring betrays him by slipping from his finger, the ring floats down into a thick growth of cheapo platic aquarium plants, the likes of which can be picked up in any half-rate fish store. Why? For less than $60 US, Mr. Jackson could have arranged a grove of living aquatic plants and kept up to his artistic standard. Has anyone else noticed this and wondered as I have?

Peter: Hey! I've got a set of five of those same plastic plants anchored in my aquarium at home!

Just a niggling, minor point, admittedly. I think I'll get one of those One Ring replicas and sink it in my tank...
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Old 01-05-2002, 02:15 AM   #2
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Additional: I wonder how common jewel cichlids were in the depths of the Anduin. LOL!
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Old 01-05-2002, 02:19 AM   #3
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That's it...Cheapo plastic plants were originaly created by TOLKIEN HIMESELF!!!
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Old 01-05-2002, 02:44 AM   #4
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Of course, Carden....cheapo plastic aquarium plants were obviously a collaboration between Ulmo of the Waters and Aule!
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Old 01-05-2002, 12:10 PM   #5
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"Peter: Hey! I've got a set of five of those same plastic plants anchored in my aquarium at home!"

Very nice bp!

I need to own those so I can recreate that scene at home with my tetras and guppies! Wanna bet there are out takes with gold fish swimming in them?
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Old 01-05-2002, 12:14 PM   #6
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Cheapo plastic aquarium plants

I guess that's what you get when cut out Goldberry
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Old 01-06-2002, 12:30 AM   #7
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Ring's abode among the cheapoplastica

Falling, nay lunging from Isildur's hand, listening in triumph to his shouts of agony as he thrashed in the waters of the cold Anduin, the one ring swirled in glee. Here he would hide...here midst the cheapoplastica, waiting...waiting...amusing himself with the slugs. . . could he make them disappear as quickly as they came crawling? Heh heh heh
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Old 01-06-2002, 09:49 AM   #8
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Now if we only had a sculpture of a Stoor Hobbit leaning down to pick up a ring...
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Old 01-06-2002, 12:25 PM   #9
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ROTFL, what if they had also included those other abominations of the aquarium trade in the shot:

The cheap plastic castles, shipwrecks with the bubbles making the paddlewheel go 'round, or the plastic diver bobbing up and down over the open chest of garishly-painted treasure? All jammed into gaudy purple-and-pink gravel with lavender and mauve broadleafed plastic plants, and as the One Ring filters down to the bottom, a hand comes in shot to release the diver stuck in the lid of the treasure chest?

Reminds me of a parody of "Thunderbirds Are Go!" by Peter Cook and Dudley Moore...where they show a hand with a match lighting the bottle rockets at the back of a futuristic airship....as the countdown digresses....
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Old 01-07-2002, 09:21 AM   #10
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I watched Jaws last night, the scene were the Tiger shark is cut open to see what it had been eating... imagine if the Ring fell out along with the tag from Louisanna... Oh this could be a whole new thread! Yikes!
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Old 01-07-2002, 11:44 AM   #11
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'And so it came to pass that the One Ring lay in the depths of the Anduin for many generations. It was there that Golluslug, a descendant of the mighty Slugs of Anduin, crawled through the Ring. And he saw that when he was in the Ring, no other slug could see him nor discern his presnce. So he used the Ring, spying upon his fellows, learning their secrets, and was given long life, far beyond the years of other slugs, by the evil power of the Ring.

'And he kept the Ring safe, as a slug could, and held it dear to his hearts; and he cradled himself in it, and called it 'preciouss'. And so he came to know the power of the Ring, and he used it, claiming its power for himself, and in his evil dominion held sway over all other slugs for a three-foot radius, and called to him all evil bottom-dwellers, and waged warfare upon his neighbors. And in the riverbed of the Anduin, a small shadow grew, black and slimy, and he reveled in his dark sluggish glory.

'And so it was, the One Ring lay for thousands of years, and the Ring was given the perpetual willies; it revulsed in the slime track of Golluslug, and it waited, biding its time and muttering under its breath, until the day Deagol fell into the Water, and in grasping the Ring from its resting place on the bottom of the River, he squashed Golluslug, to the everlasting delight of the catfish and enslaved slugs. And the riverbed was free, the Shadow passed out of knowing of slugs, and the weeds and grasses grew over his former stronghold, and he was forgotten.'
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Old 01-07-2002, 06:01 PM   #12
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I remember hearing that there was an actual text stating that a fish actually swallowed The Ring, it was filled with madness and then died.
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Old 01-20-2002, 09:47 PM   #13
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Bropous, you are hilarious! I didn't notice the cheapo plastic plants in the Anduin, but I don't doubt that they were there. Golluslug . . . heh heh heh. Lol.

Btw Gildor : Cheapoplastica? Cheapoplastica uncreativicalis moviesceneriolia, perhaps? *giggles*
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Old 01-21-2002, 12:02 AM   #14
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Awww. I was awaiting the day when Golluslug would reveal himself and challenge the supremacy of Sauron.

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Old 01-21-2002, 07:10 AM   #15
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Good one, FrodoFriend.
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Old 01-21-2002, 10:39 AM   #16
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lol bropous - you missed the "no fishing" sign amongst your aquarium paraphernalia.
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