What's your ship? - Page 3

sun-star · 10-21-2004, 03:50 PM

I don't think romance is going to play much part in the next two books - they're all a bit too young to settle down. That said, I ship R/Hr. Like azalea, I like the line where they're compared to Mr and Mrs Weasley. When will they realise it though?

sirigorn · 10-21-2004, 06:34 PM

Actually, there is evidence against H/Hr. In that link I gave you, there was a quote by JKR saying that their relationship is "platonic", which according to dictionary.com means

Quote:

platonic

\Pla*ton"ic\, Platonical \Pla*ton"ic*al\, a. [L. Platonicus, Gr. ?: cf. F. platonique.] 1. Of or pertaining to Plato, or his philosophy, school, or opinions.

2. Pure, passionless; nonsexual; philosophical.

Passionless, nonsexual...how is that supposed to mean that they'll be together?

***HOBBIT*** · 10-21-2004, 08:31 PM

maybe too lazy to check, but what is "ship" ???? Is that like some weird british slang for couple?

sirigorn · 10-21-2004, 09:00 PM

Not British as far as I know. It's netspeak. And yes, it means couple. It's short for relationship. And a shipper is someone who ships (supports) the ship.

Aragorn_iz_cool · 10-23-2004, 03:45 PM

A. that wasn't the definiton my dictonery gave:

Platonic Love: A close relationship between two persons in which sexual desire [B]has been suppressed[B] or subliminated.

Suppress: 1. To put down by authority or force 2. to keep from public knowlage: as a. to keep secret b. to stop or prevent the publication of. 3. a: To exclude from conciousness b. to keep from giving vent to 4. to press down

So she might have meant that they are in love, but are suppressing it for the moment.

B. She used the word "are" and that was a very old interveiw.
C. JKR has said things in her interveiws and done diffrent things in the book. There is an essay on that somewhere...

edit: for the actual word platonic, it gave the plato thing and "of or realating to platonic love" and the dictonery was Websters New Collegiate Dictionary.

Edit #2: You mention in a earlier post that H/Hr shippers can be obnoxious, although that is quite true, R/Hr shippers are not any better, as the "Edited for Stupidity" section of HarrylovesHermione.com can show. I'm not saying that all R/Hr shippers are like that, or that H/Hr shippers are any better, just saying that idiocy is not limited to any ship.

sirigorn · 10-24-2004, 07:04 PM

Main Entry: pla·ton·ic
1 capitalized : of, relating to, or characteristic of Plato or Platonism
2 a : relating to or based on platonic love; also : experiencing or professing platonic love b : of, relating to, or being a relationship marked by the absence of romance or sex
And then platonic love: 2 : a close relationship between two persons in which sexual desire is nonexistent or has been suppressed or sublimated

Hmm...I got that from Merriam Webster online. Absence of romance or sex? I don't doubt you, but maybe you're misunderstanding it. And then is nonexistent? Anywho, there's no point in arguing about the meaning of platonic. How bout you give me a specific scene where H/Hr is evident? And don't give me a link, I want an actual thing you find.

Sorry about saying you can be obnoxious...I know we can be too, everyone can. But I meant that on one of my sites, some H/Hr shippers come on our R/Hr threads and harass us.

Hasty Ent · 11-28-2004, 08:33 PM

ok... this may just squick all of you, but I'm addicted to Hermione/Snape fanfiction...

Manveru · 11-28-2004, 09:08 PM

wow you guys have alot of time on your hands

i doubt very much that harry will have another relationship. and if ron and hermione get together (its possible) then they'll b a very dysfunctional couple

sirigorn · 12-03-2004, 11:58 PM

Can you say why you think that exactly?

JKR has said that Harry will have kisses in the 6th book, so there'll be some romance at least. I'm rooting for Ginny.

Aragorn_iz_cool · 12-09-2004, 06:30 PM

oh...I just relized the dictonery I looked at was from about 1960, apparently the meaning has changed over the years....

Elemmírë · 12-09-2004, 07:02 PM

Oh dear, nobody has said my favourite so far...

Draco/Hermione

Most of the HP fanfics I've read paint Draco in a good light, so my opinion of him has shifted quite a bit...

Now I'm waiting for him to kill someone in the next book...

sirigorn · 12-09-2004, 08:09 PM

As far as Draco goes, I'm for Draco/Harry. In fanon only, mind you!

You do know Jo has shot D/Hr down, don't you? But it will always live on in fanon!

Elemmírë · 12-09-2004, 08:15 PM

Won't it...

It's not the pairing I go for as much as the character...

*very glad that a certain other obsession keeps her from devolving into a Draco Malfoy fangirl*

I think I'm obsessed with blondes...!

[edited] nice avvie, btw. Johnny Depp...

Embladyne · 12-09-2004, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirigorn

As far as Draco goes, I'm for Draco/Harry. In fanon only, mind you!

Um...yeah, me too *embarrased laugh*....
But really, I think that Ron/Hermione makes a lot of sense. I'm not really set in what I think the relationships should be, and I'm interested in seeing how they all develop further in the series.

sirigorn · 12-09-2004, 09:29 PM

See, me, I'm a die-hard R/Hr shipper. And I also like H/G and Bill/Tonks, but besides that, in canon, I don't really care, unless it's Giant Squid/Anyone because that's just squicky. But with fanon, I like going all out and shipping the wierd ones. Though H/D is really popular.

Yeah, Draco's hot in the movies... but I go for dark guys, so I take Sirius.

Thanks, Elemmire!

If I could have bigger ones, like on some vBulletin sites, I'd have some even better ones...

The size of LJ icons is nice.

Elemmírë · 12-09-2004, 10:00 PM

Draco is hot in the movies...

Of course, Sirius used to be and still is my all-time favourite HP character...

I am apparently unfaithful in Harry Potter fandom... I'm much more loyal to my favourite Middle Earth character

, even after he died...

Giant Squid/anyone... *shudders*

Well... it does have 8 arms...

I've been at the Men of the Silmarillion thread too much!

And yes... any picture of Johnny Depp is okay by my book.

sirigorn · 12-09-2004, 10:07 PM

Who?

I'm entirely faithful to my fave HP character, even after he died. I'm still in denial though. I will be at least until HBP comes out.

In the third movie especially... no more gelled hair!

Embladyne · 12-09-2004, 10:29 PM

Personally, I think Snape is hot in the movies....what can I say?
Although, Draco is pretty awesome as well.

***azalea*** · 12-18-2004, 10:46 PM

I'm a Snape fan-woman.

Mostly movie-Snape, of course.

So, Hasty, can you point me in the direction of a good Snape/ Hermi fanfic? (I do think it's a little squick, but my curiousity has gotten the better of me.

) I haven't read much fanfic of any kind, and I don't want to have to wade through sh*te in order to find one worth reading.

Hasty Ent · 12-19-2004, 02:05 AM

sent you a pm with some links.... but be prepared to wade through a lot of junk.... I'd recommend particular stories and/or authors if I could remember any, but I'm terrible with names... sorry

10-21-2004, 03:50 PM	#41
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	I don't think romance is going to play much part in the next two books - they're all a bit too young to settle down. That said, I ship R/Hr. Like azalea, I like the line where they're compared to Mr and Mrs Weasley. When will they realise it though? __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.

10-21-2004, 08:31 PM	#43
*HOBBIT* Saviour of Entmoot Admiral Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NC/NJ (no longer Same place as bmilder.) Posts: 61,986	maybe too lazy to check, but what is "ship" ???? Is that like some weird british slang for couple? __________________ President Emeritus (2000-2004) Private message (or email) me if you need any assistance. I am here to help! "I'm up to here with cool, ok? I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox Latest Blog Post: Just Quit Facebook? No One Cares!

10-21-2004, 09:00 PM	#44
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	Not British as far as I know. It's netspeak. And yes, it means couple. It's short for relationship. And a shipper is someone who ships (supports) the ship. __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

10-23-2004, 03:45 PM	#45
Aragorn_iz_cool Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 119	A. that wasn't the definiton my dictonery gave: Platonic Love: A close relationship between two persons in which sexual desire [B]has been suppressed[B] or subliminated. Suppress: 1. To put down by authority or force 2. to keep from public knowlage: as a. to keep secret b. to stop or prevent the publication of. 3. a: To exclude from conciousness b. to keep from giving vent to 4. to press down So she might have meant that they are in love, but are suppressing it for the moment. B. She used the word "are" and that was a very old interveiw. C. JKR has said things in her interveiws and done diffrent things in the book. There is an essay on that somewhere... edit: for the actual word platonic, it gave the plato thing and "of or realating to platonic love" and the dictonery was Websters New Collegiate Dictionary. Edit #2: You mention in a earlier post that H/Hr shippers can be obnoxious, although that is quite true, R/Hr shippers are not any better, as the "Edited for Stupidity" section of HarrylovesHermione.com can show. I'm not saying that all R/Hr shippers are like that, or that H/Hr shippers are any better, just saying that idiocy is not limited to any ship. Last edited by Aragorn_iz_cool : 10-23-2004 at 03:52 PM.

10-24-2004, 07:04 PM	#46
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	Main Entry: pla·ton·ic 1 capitalized : of, relating to, or characteristic of Plato or Platonism 2 a : relating to or based on platonic love; also : experiencing or professing platonic love b : of, relating to, or being a relationship marked by the absence of romance or sex And then platonic love: 2 : a close relationship between two persons in which sexual desire is nonexistent or has been suppressed or sublimated Hmm...I got that from Merriam Webster online. Absence of romance or sex? I don't doubt you, but maybe you're misunderstanding it. And then is nonexistent? Anywho, there's no point in arguing about the meaning of platonic. How bout you give me a specific scene where H/Hr is evident? And don't give me a link, I want an actual thing you find. Sorry about saying you can be obnoxious...I know we can be too, everyone can. But I meant that on one of my sites, some H/Hr shippers come on our R/Hr threads and harass us. __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

11-28-2004, 08:33 PM	#47
Hasty Ent Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 516	ok... this may just squick all of you, but I'm addicted to Hermione/Snape fanfiction...

11-28-2004, 09:08 PM	#48
Manveru Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 256	wow you guys have alot of time on your hands i doubt very much that harry will have another relationship. and if ron and hermione get together (its possible) then they'll b a very dysfunctional couple __________________ Earendel arose where the shadow flows At Ocean's silent brim; Through the mouth of night as a ray of light Where the shores are sheer and dim He launched his bark like a silver spark From the last and lonely sand; Then on sunlit breath of day's fiery death He sailed from Westerland

12-03-2004, 11:58 PM	#49
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	Can you say why you think that exactly? JKR has said that Harry will have kisses in the 6th book, so there'll be some romance at least. I'm rooting for Ginny. __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

12-09-2004, 06:30 PM	#50
Aragorn_iz_cool Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 119	oh...I just relized the dictonery I looked at was from about 1960, apparently the meaning has changed over the years....

12-09-2004, 07:02 PM	#51
Elemmírë avocatus diaboli Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Himring Posts: 1,582	Oh dear, nobody has said my favourite so far... Draco/Hermione Most of the HP fanfics I've read paint Draco in a good light, so my opinion of him has shifted quite a bit... Now I'm waiting for him to kill someone in the next book... __________________ ~ I have heard the languages of apocalypse and now I shall embrace the silence ~ Neil Gaiman

12-09-2004, 08:09 PM	#52
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	As far as Draco goes, I'm for Draco/Harry. In fanon only, mind you! You do know Jo has shot D/Hr down, don't you? But it will always live on in fanon! __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

12-09-2004, 08:15 PM	#53
Elemmírë avocatus diaboli Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Himring Posts: 1,582	Won't it... It's not the pairing I go for as much as the character... very glad that a certain other obsession keeps her from devolving into a Draco Malfoy fangirl I think I'm obsessed with blondes...! [edited] nice avvie, btw. Johnny Depp... __________________ ~ I have heard the languages of apocalypse and now I shall embrace the silence ~ Neil Gaiman

12-09-2004, 09:29 PM	#55
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	See, me, I'm a die-hard R/Hr shipper. And I also like H/G and Bill/Tonks, but besides that, in canon, I don't really care, unless it's Giant Squid/Anyone because that's just squicky. But with fanon, I like going all out and shipping the wierd ones. Though H/D is really popular. Yeah, Draco's hot in the movies... but I go for dark guys, so I take Sirius. Thanks, Elemmire! If I could have bigger ones, like on some vBulletin sites, I'd have some even better ones... The size of LJ icons is nice. __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

12-09-2004, 10:00 PM	#56
Elemmírë avocatus diaboli Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Himring Posts: 1,582	Draco is hot in the movies... Of course, Sirius used to be and still is my all-time favourite HP character... I am apparently unfaithful in Harry Potter fandom... I'm much more loyal to my favourite Middle Earth character , even after he died... Giant Squid/anyone... shudders Well... it does have 8 arms... I've been at the Men of the Silmarillion thread too much! And yes... any picture of Johnny Depp is okay by my book. __________________ ~ I have heard the languages of apocalypse and now I shall embrace the silence ~ Neil Gaiman

12-09-2004, 10:07 PM	#57
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	Who? I'm entirely faithful to my fave HP character, even after he died. I'm still in denial though. I will be at least until HBP comes out. In the third movie especially... no more gelled hair! __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

12-09-2004, 10:29 PM	#58
Embladyne Honourary Elitist Inklette Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: between the mountains and the sea Posts: 704	Personally, I think Snape is hot in the movies....what can I say? Although, Draco is pretty awesome as well. __________________ Even on the pinnacle of a palace a crow does not become an eagle. My DA page

12-18-2004, 10:46 PM	#59
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I'm a Snape fan-woman. Mostly movie-Snape, of course. So, Hasty, can you point me in the direction of a good Snape/ Hermi fanfic? (I do think it's a little squick, but my curiousity has gotten the better of me. ) I haven't read much fanfic of any kind, and I don't want to have to wade through sh*te in order to find one worth reading.

12-19-2004, 02:05 AM	#60
Hasty Ent Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 516	sent you a pm with some links.... but be prepared to wade through a lot of junk.... I'd recommend particular stories and/or authors if I could remember any, but I'm terrible with names... sorry

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