The Girdle of Melian

Tulkas · 09-10-2006, 01:04 PM

what exactly was it, for example was it a force field of some sort....was it something you could see, or was it just an invisable boundry...i have no clue.

jammi567 · 09-10-2006, 02:10 PM

it was an invisible barrior that confused traverlers who entered, and made them lost. However, if you had the approval of the king and/or queen (or were fated) then you could get through safely.

Tulkas · 09-10-2006, 02:30 PM

yeah but in the book i though it said that only the people who King Thingol wanted to pass could pass...and as for the confusion and lost thing i thought that was in Nan Elmoth or something like that.

jammi567 · 09-10-2006, 02:41 PM

Yeah. That's what i said. Thingol is king of Doriath. And too the confusion and lost thing, think of Turin and his guardians. They ran out of food and water, and would died if Beleg hadn't happened to come along, because they were lost.

Tulkas · 09-10-2006, 04:33 PM

yeah but then couldnt orcs and other creature of morgoth make there way through the girdle and into menegorath without thingol's permission?

durinsbane2244 · 09-10-2006, 07:14 PM

no, see, they would get confused and lost. that's why he had it.

Valtir · 10-04-2006, 08:52 PM

I've always seen the Girdle of Melian (*snicker) as a magical "haze" so to speak, which completely and utterly stymies anyone's attempts to pass without the "magic words".

Beren's ability to pass is but the unfolding of Melian's foresight ages ere.

09-10-2006, 01:04 PM	#1
Tulkas Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 32	The Girdle of Melian what exactly was it, for example was it a force field of some sort....was it something you could see, or was it just an invisable boundry...i have no clue. __________________ "But when wolf came for Beren, Felagund put forth all his power, and burst his bonds; and he wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth" -Felagund, the greatest of the Noldo, and to walk Middle-Earth.

09-10-2006, 02:10 PM	#2
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	it was an invisible barrior that confused traverlers who entered, and made them lost. However, if you had the approval of the king and/or queen (or were fated) then you could get through safely. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

09-10-2006, 02:30 PM	#3
Tulkas Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 32	yeah but in the book i though it said that only the people who King Thingol wanted to pass could pass...and as for the confusion and lost thing i thought that was in Nan Elmoth or something like that. __________________ "But when wolf came for Beren, Felagund put forth all his power, and burst his bonds; and he wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth" -Felagund, the greatest of the Noldo, and to walk Middle-Earth.

09-10-2006, 02:41 PM	#4
jammi567 I'm Eru, and lord of Arda. Join Date: May 2006 Location: southampton, hampshire Posts: 2,609	Yeah. That's what i said. Thingol is king of Doriath. And too the confusion and lost thing, think of Turin and his guardians. They ran out of food and water, and would died if Beleg hadn't happened to come along, because they were lost. __________________ Vote for me, Jammi567, in the 2008 Entmoot elections, and you will get many of the things we need: free, unbiased, newspapers; a strong alliance with many countries, so that war doesn't start over someone breaking their nose on a doorframe; etc, etc This forum is lonely. It's new and confused, and doesn't have many friends yet. Help today by joining for free, posting, and posting this message and link in your sig. So please, join and help make it feel welcomed and loved.

09-10-2006, 04:33 PM	#5
Tulkas Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 32	yeah but then couldnt orcs and other creature of morgoth make there way through the girdle and into menegorath without thingol's permission? __________________ "But when wolf came for Beren, Felagund put forth all his power, and burst his bonds; and he wrestled with the werewolf, and slew it with his hands and teeth" -Felagund, the greatest of the Noldo, and to walk Middle-Earth.

09-10-2006, 07:14 PM	#6
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	no, see, they would get confused and lost. that's why he had it. __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

10-04-2006, 08:52 PM	#7
Valtir Sapling Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 14	I've always seen the Girdle of Melian (*snicker) as a magical "haze" so to speak, which completely and utterly stymies anyone's attempts to pass without the "magic words". Beren's ability to pass is but the unfolding of Melian's foresight ages ere. __________________ I am a servant of the Secret Fire.

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