Should Peter Jackson do a movie for The Hobbit? - Page 3

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-27-2003, 01:12 PM

Why not? There's been tons of Draculas. Maybe Tolkien will be the next Bram Stoker.

Kili Goldmoth · 07-19-2003, 07:08 AM

I think he should

elixir · 07-29-2003, 06:14 PM

Well, I don't have anything against Peter Jackson making The Hobbit movie, someone else might do it also, as long as someone makes a movie of it at all...

About PJ and LOTR, I didn't like some changes he made, but it wasn't THAT bad, in my opinion at least

legolialis · 08-04-2003, 10:15 PM

I would love to see the hobbit made into a movie. It would develop the story of lord of the rings more and help people who havent read the books undestand it more

Elbereth5 · 08-08-2003, 12:36 PM

i think it should be..but not if its going to ruin it like pj did with LOTR

PippinTook · 08-08-2003, 08:44 PM

i think a hobbit movie would be ok, if it was done right, movies had been made after books and it ended up ok, please don't smack me, its just my oppy

Sheeana · 08-08-2003, 08:49 PM

*smack*

Tuor of Gondolin · 10-18-2003, 01:37 PM

Actually, I've been thinking about PJ filming The Hobbit, in light of my reevaluation of the first two LOTR movies (I give the first an A- and the second a C+).
How about a two-part Hobbit, the first ending with Thorin & Co. entering Mirkwood and the White Counsel attacking Dol Guldur. You can have Gandalf, Saruman, Elrond, Galadriel, and Legolas (for fangirls) reprise roles. Not sure if Ian Holmes could be "youthened" up enough to do Bilbo. And by playing a bit with real chronology have a teenage/young adult Aragorn find out about his heritage (to include love interest with Arwen) and have his early involvement in Gondor/Rohan in Part II of the movie. And wouldn't Gimli of movies (John R. Davies) be a great Thorin Oakenshield? Also, PJ could do excellent special effects of Beorn, Smaug, trolls, Dol Guldur attack by White Counsel, and spiders.
There is enough ambiguity in the events of The Hobbit (what was the composition of the force driving Sauron from Dol Guldur, actual debate and interaction of "The Wise" before attacking, were Elven/Ranger forces involved, how to work in a role for Legolas), that it wouldn't really be necessary to tamper with the plot of The Hobbit much.
Also, if another love interest is needed for these movies, make up something between Bard and a Laketown girl.

Tuor of Gondolin · 10-18-2003, 01:43 PM

Sorry, I think I posted message twice. Deleting didn't work, so put in this note.

Tinuviel22 · 10-18-2003, 07:38 PM

absolutely! I love the hobbit. It kind of shows a different side to the dwarves and the wood elves
like when Thorin had Dain come and help them fight Bard and the elves. it shows the dwarves more like warriors. I really like that. I like the Hobbit almost more than the three LOTR books.

Black Breathalizer · 10-20-2003, 08:35 AM

Folks, it's not a matter of 'if' PJ will make the Hobbit, it's only a matter of 'when.'

One of the greatest things about the Hobbit film project is that PJ will have the opportunity to retell Tolkien's kiddie book with the more appropriate adult fantasy tone the Master used in writing LOTR.

***IronParrot*** · 10-20-2003, 10:49 PM

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One of the greatest things about the Hobbit film project is that PJ will have the opportunity to retell Tolkien's kiddie book with the more appropriate adult fantasy tone the Master used in writing LOTR.

Hmm... not sure about that.

The core of The Hobbit's appeal to me is that it does have a lightness, a "kiddie" tone you might say, that was nowhere to be found in the arguably over-pretentious Silmarillion and its absorption with grand mytho-fantasy. LOTR, book and film, hit the perfect middle-ground between the two.

However, if Peter Jackson handles it with as deftly as he did the first half of The Fellowship of the Ring, particularly the early scenes before the Prancing Pony, there's absolutely nothing to worry about. He has too keen a sense for immersive imagery. He'd have to have Andrew Lesnie on board, though, to capture the vibrance and colour that is needed.

You'll note, however, that in FOTR, PJ wisely shied away from Tom Bombadil, who wouldn't have fit into the tone of the LOTR films - and is probably the part of LOTR that is most like The Hobbit.

My point remains, though, that The Hobbit should not be made any darker than it already is. If Peter Jackson understands that, then he would be the perfect man for the movie.

(Otherwise, I'd take the ever-whimsical visual genius Terry Gilliam, who should have done Harry Potter but didn't.)

hectorberlioz · 10-21-2003, 12:08 AM

Hobbit movie should keep the "light" tone in it.
Ironparrot, who is Andrew Lesnie?

***IronParrot*** · 10-21-2003, 03:15 AM

Director of Photography on The Lord of the Rings. To put it in simplistic terms, he's responsible for all the light, colour and shadow.

Black Breathalizer · 10-21-2003, 06:55 AM

I totallly agree that the Hobbit should have a lighter tone than LOTR. But if filmed as written, we have -- ack! -- a Disney film!!! Personally, I think PJ would be perfect at capturing the lightness of the book's mood while approaching the story seriously.

Finrod Felagund · 12-08-2003, 09:35 AM

Ian Mkellen would have to reprise his role as Gandalf, with Andy Serkis back as Gollum. San Connery for Thorin.

Ilúvatar · 12-09-2003, 06:22 AM

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'Rings' Director Wants to Bring 'Hobbit' to Screen

Despite his exhaustion, Jackson is not resting on his laurels and said if complex rights issues can be resolved he would like to direct "The Hobbit," J.R.R. Tolkien's prequel to the "Rings" trilogy set some 50 years earlier.

"I'd be interested in doing it because I think it would give continuity to the overall chapter," he said.

While many of the lead "Rings" characters do not appear in "The Hobbit" story, the wizard Gandalf, played by Ian McKellen (news), and Gollum, the cave dweller corrupted by the powerful ring, do and should make a comeback. Arwen, the elf princess played by Liv Tyler (news), could also feature again, Jackson said.

Should Jackson bring the Hobbit to the screen? One word, NO!!

samwiselvr2008 · 12-26-2003, 01:46 PM

PJ should do some of the speacail effects and direct the movie, but he shouldn't write the script (and neather should Fran Walsh and Boyens, or whatever there names are). You have to admit, he did do a great job with shooting LOTR film, and costumes and all, he just didn't ceep it very close to the books, so if someone else wrote the script, and he just directed it, that would work.

Thorin II · 01-09-2004, 12:14 PM

I loved the LOTR movies and I think PJ did a great job; some of the changes were odd, but on the whole, I was impressed.

That said, I would love to see The Hobbit as a PJ movie, but I think it would be tough to do after the LOTR. The scale is smaller and the story is less complex; audiences (especially those who haven't read the books) may be disappointed. Doing The Hobbit first would've been easier.

ethuiliel · 01-28-2004, 04:34 PM

I can't say I approve of everything PJ did. Far from it actually, but I still think he would do OK with the Hobbit, as long as he didn't make it darker, and didn't make the Battle of the Five Armies take up half the movie or something. At least if he did it, there would be something tying the two together.

04-27-2003, 01:12 PM	#41
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07-19-2003, 07:08 AM	#42
Kili Goldmoth Sapling Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: I am every where Posts: 14	Yes he should I think he should

07-29-2003, 06:14 PM	#43
elixir Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: wherever my dreams take me Posts: 356	Well, I don't have anything against Peter Jackson making The Hobbit movie, someone else might do it also, as long as someone makes a movie of it at all... About PJ and LOTR, I didn't like some changes he made, but it wasn't THAT bad, in my opinion at least __________________ ~ Time is a drug. Too much of it kills you ~ "We've got a wizard and we're not afraid to use him!" HOBBITS NEEDED! Some dwarves as well !!!

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legolialis Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 22	I would love to see the hobbit made into a movie. It would develop the story of lord of the rings more and help people who havent read the books undestand it more

08-08-2003, 12:36 PM	#45
Elbereth5 Sapling Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In Middle Earth Posts: 7	i think it should be..but not if its going to ruin it like pj did with LOTR

10-18-2003, 01:37 PM	#48
Tuor of Gondolin Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 1,215	Actually, I've been thinking about PJ filming The Hobbit, in light of my reevaluation of the first two LOTR movies (I give the first an A- and the second a C+). How about a two-part Hobbit, the first ending with Thorin & Co. entering Mirkwood and the White Counsel attacking Dol Guldur. You can have Gandalf, Saruman, Elrond, Galadriel, and Legolas (for fangirls) reprise roles. Not sure if Ian Holmes could be "youthened" up enough to do Bilbo. And by playing a bit with real chronology have a teenage/young adult Aragorn find out about his heritage (to include love interest with Arwen) and have his early involvement in Gondor/Rohan in Part II of the movie. And wouldn't Gimli of movies (John R. Davies) be a great Thorin Oakenshield? Also, PJ could do excellent special effects of Beorn, Smaug, trolls, Dol Guldur attack by White Counsel, and spiders. There is enough ambiguity in the events of The Hobbit (what was the composition of the force driving Sauron from Dol Guldur, actual debate and interaction of "The Wise" before attacking, were Elven/Ranger forces involved, how to work in a role for Legolas), that it wouldn't really be necessary to tamper with the plot of The Hobbit much. Also, if another love interest is needed for these movies, make up something between Bard and a Laketown girl. __________________ Democrat for Kerry-Edwards! Take Back America Aure entuluva! Last edited by Tuor of Gondolin : 10-18-2003 at 02:26 PM.

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10-18-2003, 07:38 PM	#50
Tinuviel22 Sapling Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 12	absolutely! I love the hobbit. It kind of shows a different side to the dwarves and the wood elves like when Thorin had Dain come and help them fight Bard and the elves. it shows the dwarves more like warriors. I really like that. I like the Hobbit almost more than the three LOTR books.

10-20-2003, 08:35 AM	#51
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	Folks, it's not a matter of 'if' PJ will make the Hobbit, it's only a matter of 'when.' One of the greatest things about the Hobbit film project is that PJ will have the opportunity to retell Tolkien's kiddie book with the more appropriate adult fantasy tone the Master used in writing LOTR.

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10-21-2003, 06:55 AM	#55
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	I totallly agree that the Hobbit should have a lighter tone than LOTR. But if filmed as written, we have -- ack! -- a Disney film!!! Personally, I think PJ would be perfect at capturing the lightness of the book's mood while approaching the story seriously.

12-08-2003, 09:35 AM	#56
Finrod Felagund King of Nargothrond Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada! eh? Posts: 2,002	Ian Mkellen would have to reprise his role as Gandalf, with Andy Serkis back as Gollum. San Connery for Thorin. __________________ "THE EAGLES ARE COMING, THE EAGLES ARE COMING......AND A MOTH!!!!!"

12-26-2003, 01:46 PM	#58
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	PJ should do some of the speacail effects and direct the movie, but he shouldn't write the script (and neather should Fran Walsh and Boyens, or whatever there names are). You have to admit, he did do a great job with shooting LOTR film, and costumes and all, he just didn't ceep it very close to the books, so if someone else wrote the script, and he just directed it, that would work. __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

01-09-2004, 12:14 PM	#59
Thorin II Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 161	I loved the LOTR movies and I think PJ did a great job; some of the changes were odd, but on the whole, I was impressed. That said, I would love to see The Hobbit as a PJ movie, but I think it would be tough to do after the LOTR. The scale is smaller and the story is less complex; audiences (especially those who haven't read the books) may be disappointed. Doing The Hobbit first would've been easier. __________________ "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb." - Spaceballs

01-28-2004, 04:34 PM	#60
ethuiliel Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: USA until I find a way to get to Middle Earth Posts: 681	I can't say I approve of everything PJ did. Far from it actually, but I still think he would do OK with the Hobbit, as long as he didn't make it darker, and didn't make the Battle of the Five Armies take up half the movie or something. At least if he did it, there would be something tying the two together. __________________ "...but I love not the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Numenor." "'I would,' said Faramir. And he took her in his arms and kissed her under the sunlit sky, and he cared not that they stood high upon the walls in the sight of many. And many indeed saw them and the light that shone about them as they came down from the walls and went hand in hand to the Houses of Healing."

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