*twists uncomfortably* Any person reasanobly good at Quenya READ THIS PLEASE!

Radagast · 01-28-2002, 02:06 PM

I love the sound of Quenya. I can speak very little of it, however as I cannot find a guide that spells out words phonetically, (e.g. Radagast, Ra-da-gast.) And now I've set my mind on Namarie, the longest Lord of the Rings Quenya poem.

There is little I can do, however, without knowing how to pronounce Quenya. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Namarie runs as follows:-

Ai! lauriÃ« lantar lassi sÃºrinen,
Ah! like gold fall the leaves in the wind,
yÃ©ni ÃºnÃ³timÃ« ve rÃ¡mar aldaron!
long years numberless as the wings of trees!
YÃ©ni ve lintÃ« yuldar avÃ¡nier
The long years have passed like swift draughts
mi oromardi lissÃ«-miruvÃ³reva
of the sweet mead in lofty halls
AndÃºnÃ« pella, Vardo tellumar
beyond the West, beneath the blue vaults of Varda
nu luini yassen tintilar i eleni
wherein the stars tremble
Ã³maryo airetÃ¡ri-lÃ*rinen.
in the voice of her song, holy and queenly.
SÃ* man i yulma nin enquantuva?
Who now shall refill the cup for me?

An sÃ* TintallÃ« Varda OiolossÃ«o
For now the Kindler, Varda, the Queen of the stars,
ve fanyar mÃ¡ryat ElentÃ¡ri ortanÃ«
from Mount Everwhite has uplifted her hands like clouds
ar ilyÃ« tier undulÃ¡vÃ« lumbulÃ«
and all paths are drowned deep in shadow;
ar sindanÃ³riello caita morniÃ«
and out of a grey country darkness lies
i falmalinnar imbÃ« met,
on the foaming waves between us,
ar hÃ*siÃ« untÃºpa Calaciryo mÃ*ri oialÃ«.
and mist covers the jewels of Calacirya for ever.
SÃ* vanwa nÃ¡, RÃ³mello vanwa, Valimar!
Now lost, lost to those of the East is Valimar!
NamÃ¡riÃ«! Nai hiruvalyÃ« Valimar!
Farewell! Maybe thou shalt find Valimar!
Nai elyÃ« hiruva! NamÃ¡riÃ«!
Maybe even thou shalt find it! Farewell!

Radagast · 01-28-2002, 04:08 PM

I may, of course, be asking a bit much...

Ã‘Ã³lendil · 01-28-2002, 04:54 PM

There is a Quenya course on the Ardalambion, that should help you lodes.

I'll attempt to do what you ask, as I have nothing else to do and all day to do it.

Here's a guide to my guide, first:

ah=the 'a' sound heard in 'apple', but that is is only approximate
aw=the 'a' sound heard 'talk' or the 'o' sound heard in 'online'
eh=the 'e' sound heard in 'reck'
ih=the 'i' sound heard 'it'
ee=the vowel-sound heard in 'me'
oh=pronouned like the letter 'o', but this is approximate
eye=simply to be said as the English word 'eye'
ou=like the 'ou' in 'house'
oo=the sound heard in 'moon'
uh=the 'u' sound heard 'mut', also approximate
oy=the sound heard in 'toy'

All the 'r's are trilled like in Spanish. 'C' is always pronounced 'K'.

I'm not a linguist keep in mind, and I haven't mastered the sounds of Quenya, but this is okay. Capital letters denote stress. One thing to note: I am personally unable to differentiate between the short and long 'e's, so they're represented with the same sounds here.

Eye! LOU-rih-eh LAHN-tawr LAHS-ih SOOR-ih-nehn,
YEH-nih oo-NOH-tih-meh veh RAH-mawr AHL-da-rawn!
YEH-nih veh LIHN-teh YUHL-dawr ah-VAWN-ih-ehr
mih oh-ro-MAHR-dih LIHS-seh mih-ruh-VOH-reh-vah
ahn-DOO-neh PEHL-lah, VAHR-doh TEHL-luh-mawr,
nuh LOO-ih-nih YAHS-sehn TIHN-tih-lawr ih EHL-eh-nih
oh-MAHR-yoh eye-reh-TAWR-ih-LIHR-ih-nehn.

see mahn ih YUHL-mah nihn ehn-KWAHN-tuh-vah?

ahn see tihn-TAHL-leh VAHR-dah, oy-oh-LOHS-seh-oh
veh FAHN-yawr MAWR-yaht eh-len-TAW-rih OHR-tah-neh
ahr IHL-yeh TIH-ehr uhn-duh-LAW-veh LUHM-buh-leh
ahr sihn-dah-noh-rih-ELL-oh KEYE-teh mohrn-ih-eh
ih fahl-mah-LIHN-awr IHM-beh meht
awr HEES-ih-eh uhn-TOO-pah cahl-ah-CIHR-yoh MEE-rih OY-ah-leh
see VAHN-wah naw, roh-MEL-loh VAHN-wah, VAHL-ih-mawr

nah-MAWR-ih-eh! neye hih-ruh-VAHL-yeh, VAHL-ih-mawr!
neye EHL-yeh hih-ruh-VAW! nah-MAWR-ih-eh!

Remember, the course on the Ardalambion is a much better guide.

Radagast · 01-28-2002, 05:08 PM

I am in your debt, sir.

Sakata · 01-28-2002, 08:49 PM

Im printing this out hehe

01-28-2002, 02:06 PM	#1
Radagast Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Merry old England Posts: 413	I love the sound of Quenya. I can speak very little of it, however as I cannot find a guide that spells out words phonetically, (e.g. Radagast, Ra-da-gast.) And now I've set my mind on Namarie, the longest Lord of the Rings Quenya poem. There is little I can do, however, without knowing how to pronounce Quenya. Does anyone have any suggestions? Namarie runs as follows:- Ai! lauriÃ« lantar lassi sÃºrinen, Ah! like gold fall the leaves in the wind, yÃ©ni ÃºnÃ³timÃ« ve rÃ¡mar aldaron! long years numberless as the wings of trees! YÃ©ni ve lintÃ« yuldar avÃ¡nier The long years have passed like swift draughts mi oromardi lissÃ«-miruvÃ³reva of the sweet mead in lofty halls AndÃºnÃ« pella, Vardo tellumar beyond the West, beneath the blue vaults of Varda nu luini yassen tintilar i eleni wherein the stars tremble Ã³maryo airetÃ¡ri-lÃrinen. in the voice of her song, holy and queenly. SÃ man i yulma nin enquantuva? Who now shall refill the cup for me? An sÃ* TintallÃ« Varda OiolossÃ«o For now the Kindler, Varda, the Queen of the stars, ve fanyar mÃ¡ryat ElentÃ¡ri ortanÃ« from Mount Everwhite has uplifted her hands like clouds ar ilyÃ« tier undulÃ¡vÃ« lumbulÃ« and all paths are drowned deep in shadow; ar sindanÃ³riello caita morniÃ« and out of a grey country darkness lies i falmalinnar imbÃ« met, on the foaming waves between us, ar hÃsiÃ« untÃºpa Calaciryo mÃri oialÃ«. and mist covers the jewels of Calacirya for ever. SÃ* vanwa nÃ¡, RÃ³mello vanwa, Valimar! Now lost, lost to those of the East is Valimar! NamÃ¡riÃ«! Nai hiruvalyÃ« Valimar! Farewell! Maybe thou shalt find Valimar! Nai elyÃ« hiruva! NamÃ¡riÃ«! Maybe even thou shalt find it! Farewell! __________________ Take up the White Man's burden-- The savage wars of peace-- Fill full the mouth of Famine, And bid the sickness cease; And when your goal is nearest (The end for others sought) Watch sloth and heathen folly Bring all your hope to nought. Last edited by Radagast : 08-05-2004 at 11:29 AM.

01-28-2002, 04:08 PM	#2
Radagast Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Merry old England Posts: 413	I may, of course, be asking a bit much... __________________ Take up the White Man's burden-- The savage wars of peace-- Fill full the mouth of Famine, And bid the sickness cease; And when your goal is nearest (The end for others sought) Watch sloth and heathen folly Bring all your hope to nought. Last edited by Radagast : 08-05-2004 at 11:29 AM.

01-28-2002, 04:54 PM	#3
Ã‘Ã³lendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	There is a Quenya course on the Ardalambion, that should help you lodes. I'll attempt to do what you ask, as I have nothing else to do and all day to do it. Here's a guide to my guide, first: ah=the 'a' sound heard in 'apple', but that is is only approximate aw=the 'a' sound heard 'talk' or the 'o' sound heard in 'online' eh=the 'e' sound heard in 'reck' ih=the 'i' sound heard 'it' ee=the vowel-sound heard in 'me' oh=pronouned like the letter 'o', but this is approximate eye=simply to be said as the English word 'eye' ou=like the 'ou' in 'house' oo=the sound heard in 'moon' uh=the 'u' sound heard 'mut', also approximate oy=the sound heard in 'toy' All the 'r's are trilled like in Spanish. 'C' is always pronounced 'K'. I'm not a linguist keep in mind, and I haven't mastered the sounds of Quenya, but this is okay. Capital letters denote stress. One thing to note: I am personally unable to differentiate between the short and long 'e's, so they're represented with the same sounds here. Eye! LOU-rih-eh LAHN-tawr LAHS-ih SOOR-ih-nehn, YEH-nih oo-NOH-tih-meh veh RAH-mawr AHL-da-rawn! YEH-nih veh LIHN-teh YUHL-dawr ah-VAWN-ih-ehr mih oh-ro-MAHR-dih LIHS-seh mih-ruh-VOH-reh-vah ahn-DOO-neh PEHL-lah, VAHR-doh TEHL-luh-mawr, nuh LOO-ih-nih YAHS-sehn TIHN-tih-lawr ih EHL-eh-nih oh-MAHR-yoh eye-reh-TAWR-ih-LIHR-ih-nehn. see mahn ih YUHL-mah nihn ehn-KWAHN-tuh-vah? ahn see tihn-TAHL-leh VAHR-dah, oy-oh-LOHS-seh-oh veh FAHN-yawr MAWR-yaht eh-len-TAW-rih OHR-tah-neh ahr IHL-yeh TIH-ehr uhn-duh-LAW-veh LUHM-buh-leh ahr sihn-dah-noh-rih-ELL-oh KEYE-teh mohrn-ih-eh ih fahl-mah-LIHN-awr IHM-beh meht awr HEES-ih-eh uhn-TOO-pah cahl-ah-CIHR-yoh MEE-rih OY-ah-leh see VAHN-wah naw, roh-MEL-loh VAHN-wah, VAHL-ih-mawr nah-MAWR-ih-eh! neye hih-ruh-VAHL-yeh, VAHL-ih-mawr! neye EHL-yeh hih-ruh-VAW! nah-MAWR-ih-eh! Remember, the course on the Ardalambion is a much better guide. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

01-28-2002, 05:08 PM	#4
Radagast Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Merry old England Posts: 413	I am in your debt, sir. __________________ Take up the White Man's burden-- The savage wars of peace-- Fill full the mouth of Famine, And bid the sickness cease; And when your goal is nearest (The end for others sought) Watch sloth and heathen folly Bring all your hope to nought. Last edited by Radagast : 08-05-2004 at 11:29 AM.

01-28-2002, 08:49 PM	#5
Sakata Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 216	Im printing this out hehe __________________ "When evil people come to destroy me, when my enemies and foes attack me, they will stumble and fall. Though a mighty army surrounds me, my heart will know no fear." -Psalms 27:2-3 -Dare you venture into Gollum's Lair? JESUS LIVES!

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