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Old 06-15-2005, 01:23 PM   #1
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What insult does Gimli give in FoTR extended edition?

Any one know? I assume it's Sindarin he's speaking.
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Old 06-15-2005, 09:10 PM   #2
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i always thought it was in dwarvish but i havent seen it in a while
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:36 PM   #3
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Any one know? I assume it's Sindarin he's speaking.
I think it was something about someone's mother being a hamster and father smelling of elderberries. Opps sorry wrong movie.

Gimli: "So much for the legendary courtesy of the Elves! Speak words we can also understand!"
Haldir: "We have not had dealings with the Dwarves since the Dark Days."
Gimli: "And you know what this Dwarf says to that? Ishkhaqwi ai durugnul!" (I spit upon your grave!)
Aragorn: "That was not so courteous."

Translation courtesy of elvish.org
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:44 PM   #4
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I belive he says, 'I spit upon your grave."
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Old 06-30-2005, 11:49 PM   #5
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Ops, you already said that. Sorry!
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Old 09-06-2005, 09:46 PM   #6
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Yikes! That was pretty bad!
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Well Dwarves do have a dislike for Elves, you know
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:35 PM   #8
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So was it elvish or dwarvish? I always thought it was dwarvish, which is why Aragorn was the only one who understood him, because Aragorn has traveled so much.
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Its Dwarvish
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Gimli can't be speaking sinderin or elvish of any sort, remember he gets annoyed with legolas and aragorn speaking elvish because he can't understand

it has to be dwarvish,
and the words sound more dwarve like than elf like to me!
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If it was elvish, all of Lothlorien would have made him into a walking pincoushin.
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Isn't the Dwarvish toungue Khazad?
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Khudzul, I believe. Khazad is dwarvish for "dwarf".
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Originally Posted by King of The Istari
Gimli can't be speaking sinderin or elvish of any sort, remember he gets annoyed with legolas and aragorn speaking elvish because he can't understand

it has to be dwarvish,
and the words sound more dwarve like than elf like to me!
Then why did Aragorn turn round and say 'That was less than courteous'"
No body apart from the Dwarves can soeak Dwarvish.
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Old 09-24-2005, 06:24 PM   #16
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Aragorn knew a lot, and not all Khuzdul was secret ("Baruk Khazad! Khazad Ameniu!") It might have been a well-known curse.
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