New versions of 4 5 and 6

Valaru · 10-19-2004, 04:37 PM

I know this subject was touched on in the star wars DVD thread, but..

How do you feel about the changes made in the new DVD releases?

SPOILER (if you have been living under a rock)

like young anakin in the ghost trio, the Emporor revealling that Luke is Darth Vaders son (hence Vader is Anakin) before that dramatic scene in cloud city.

My opinion is when he re-released star wars with the touch ups some extra footage, it was cool no problem.

With these new changes I feel he has taken my childhood memories torn them up and stomped on them.

I do understand they are his movies, his property, but to alter such a classic....

brownjenkins · 10-19-2004, 05:04 PM

i don't like the changes all that much... not just because they are changes, i can deal with that... nothing's sacred in my mind... but the father scene definitely worked best where it was... especially since that trilogy is still where most people will start who have never seen the series before

Millane · 10-20-2004, 05:48 AM

i loved most of the changed, especially having Hayden there... Didnt know how i would feel but ive come round like i knew i would. Now if they totally "re-****ed" Vaders face at the end i would have been pissed, as far as i know they just took his eyebrows (those monsters

)

thranduil · 10-20-2004, 07:11 PM

i think he is a fool and should not have made changes

BeardofPants · 10-21-2004, 03:17 AM

I like them. I didn't think I would, but overall, I do. And thinking about it, how cool is it having jarjar on the end of ep 6??

Haha, jarjar haters, neener, neener, neener.

Paul!! *hugs*

inked · 10-21-2004, 09:20 AM

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***azalea*** · 10-22-2004, 06:08 PM

He made the Emperor reveal Darth is Luke's father? What the? He's crazy!

BeardofPants · 10-22-2004, 06:11 PM

I'll have to watch the scene again... I don't remember there being too much of a spoiler on that scene, other than that Luke was the son of Anakin.

Lief Erikson · 10-24-2004, 12:13 AM

My sister and I loved how they dubbed in the young Anakin.

I think it's difficult to say how many people will start with watching the Original Trilogy rather then Episode 1. I do believe it's marvelous that they placed that connection, though. It is the most definite link between the past and present that has been added in, and the Original Trilogy definitely can use those links.

The two trilogies are so far separate in technology that the more bonded Special Editions can make them, the better, as far as I'm concerned

. However, I am glad they didn't replace Alec Guiness with Ewen McGregor.

Did anyone notice their changing the transmission of Emperor Palpatine in "The Empire Strikes Back"? Another good connection to the prequels, in my opinion

.

The main special effect that annoyed me was during the part in Episode 4, while Luke and Obi-Wan were in their landspeeder. Most of those big monsters and additions to Mos Eisley were great, but at the scene where they meet the Sandtroopers and droids are rolling across in front of them, those droids didn't seem at all real. To me, they looked very imposed upon the picture, somewhat like screensavers.

So that bit bugged me. Aside from that though, I'm happy

.

Wayfarer · 10-24-2004, 12:42 AM

Lucas is nuts.

Lief Erikson · 10-24-2004, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Lucas is nuts.

You're insufferable

.

Wayfarer · 10-24-2004, 09:55 AM

You noticed!

hectorberlioz · 10-25-2004, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thranduil

i think he is a fool and should not have made changes

An idiotic move on his part, I agree. I havent seen the added scenes, but I know I wont like them.

Millane · 10-25-2004, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

An idiotic move on his part, I agree. I havent seen the added scenes, but I know I wont like them.

you wont know until youve seen them... What about having Temeura Morrison dubbed over Boba?
i liked it

dawningoftime · 10-25-2004, 11:45 PM

I don't like some of the Changes in Empire Strikes back. I have a problem with that scene between the Emperor and Darth Vador and how he reworked the dialogue. It takes some of the emotional suspense out of that first dual between Luke and Darth Vador.

Lenya · 10-26-2004, 02:46 PM

I do not think they should remake them. I mean those movies are the best, and part of what makes them so cool, is the fact that they are so old yet they do not suck.

Ps: I love old movies. Have any of you seen the first Tarzan movie (black and white) ? It is so funny

It is really worth watching.

Lenya · 10-26-2004, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayfarer

Lucas is nuts.

So what. He is the best!

Lief Erikson · 10-26-2004, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millane

you wont know until youve seen them... What about having Temeura Morrison dubbed over Boba?
i liked it

Definitely. That's something I forgot to mention; I really enjoyed that part. All of the new connections to the prequels I really appreciate.

Lief Erikson · 10-26-2004, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hectorberlioz

An idiotic move on his part, I agree. I havent seen the added scenes, but I know I wont like them.

If you know beforehand you won't like them, then the chances are you won't like them. People can convince themselves of things. That's one reason why children don't like certain kinds of food when they try them: because they decide beforehand they won't like them.

Hectorberlioz, YOU WILL LIKE THE NEW SPECIAL EDITION SCENES! (Gets a weird mumbly voice) It is the future I see . . .

Elessar the Elfstone · 11-01-2004, 07:18 AM

In that transmission scene where the emporor only says Luke is the son of anikain skywalker which is telling the audiance what they allready know
remember if your watching these films for the first time you don't know vader and anikian are the same person so it doesn't spoil anything

and in the original scene the empoeror says that luke is anikian's son it's just worded slightly differently its just because the entire scene has been redone that anybody has noticed.

and can anyone tell me why they redid the digital stuff that was on the VHS special edition like the scene in ANH between Jabba and han, and the duback outside the cantina why have they redone them again again?

10-19-2004, 04:37 PM	#1
Valaru Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 25	New versions of 4 5 and 6 I know this subject was touched on in the star wars DVD thread, but.. How do you feel about the changes made in the new DVD releases? SPOILER (if you have been living under a rock) like young anakin in the ghost trio, the Emporor revealling that Luke is Darth Vaders son (hence Vader is Anakin) before that dramatic scene in cloud city. My opinion is when he re-released star wars with the touch ups some extra footage, it was cool no problem. With these new changes I feel he has taken my childhood memories torn them up and stomped on them. I do understand they are his movies, his property, but to alter such a classic.... __________________ home away from home My Hero: Josiah S. Carberry, studier of psychoceramics

10-19-2004, 05:04 PM	#2
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	i don't like the changes all that much... not just because they are changes, i can deal with that... nothing's sacred in my mind... but the father scene definitely worked best where it was... especially since that trilogy is still where most people will start who have never seen the series before __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

10-20-2004, 05:48 AM	#3
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	i loved most of the changed, especially having Hayden there... Didnt know how i would feel but ive come round like i knew i would. Now if they totally "re-****ed" Vaders face at the end i would have been pissed, as far as i know they just took his eyebrows (those monsters ) __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

10-20-2004, 07:11 PM	#4
thranduil Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 345	i think he is a fool and should not have made changes __________________ "The first rule about Fight Club, You don't talk about Fight Club."

10-21-2004, 03:17 AM	#5
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I like them. I didn't think I would, but overall, I do. And thinking about it, how cool is it having jarjar on the end of ep 6?? Haha, jarjar haters, neener, neener, neener. Paul!! hugs __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

10-21-2004, 09:20 AM	#6
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	Nefarious nicker of pants, begone! Thy self impos'ed exile long Is not done! Begone, I say, Till light of day Eight has dawned. Else, lost thy mind And worse thy pants ! __________________ This for your own good, BoP, as you said yourself! Wow! Everywhere, BoP is everywhere! The Knicker nicker is back! Beware! Be very, very ware! __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941

10-22-2004, 06:08 PM	#7
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	He made the Emperor reveal Darth is Luke's father? What the? He's crazy!

10-22-2004, 06:11 PM	#8
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I'll have to watch the scene again... I don't remember there being too much of a spoiler on that scene, other than that Luke was the son of Anakin. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

10-24-2004, 12:13 AM	#9
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	My sister and I loved how they dubbed in the young Anakin. I think it's difficult to say how many people will start with watching the Original Trilogy rather then Episode 1. I do believe it's marvelous that they placed that connection, though. It is the most definite link between the past and present that has been added in, and the Original Trilogy definitely can use those links. The two trilogies are so far separate in technology that the more bonded Special Editions can make them, the better, as far as I'm concerned . However, I am glad they didn't replace Alec Guiness with Ewen McGregor. Did anyone notice their changing the transmission of Emperor Palpatine in "The Empire Strikes Back"? Another good connection to the prequels, in my opinion . The main special effect that annoyed me was during the part in Episode 4, while Luke and Obi-Wan were in their landspeeder. Most of those big monsters and additions to Mos Eisley were great, but at the scene where they meet the Sandtroopers and droids are rolling across in front of them, those droids didn't seem at all real. To me, they looked very imposed upon the picture, somewhat like screensavers. So that bit bugged me. Aside from that though, I'm happy . __________________ If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do."

10-24-2004, 12:42 AM	#10
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Lucas is nuts. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

10-24-2004, 09:55 AM	#12
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	You noticed! __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

10-25-2004, 11:45 PM	#15
dawningoftime Enting Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 90	I don't like some of the Changes in Empire Strikes back. I have a problem with that scene between the Emperor and Darth Vador and how he reworked the dialogue. It takes some of the emotional suspense out of that first dual between Luke and Darth Vador. __________________ Audio Editor

10-26-2004, 02:46 PM	#16
Lenya Elentári Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: South Africa Posts: 727	I do not think they should remake them. I mean those movies are the best, and part of what makes them so cool, is the fact that they are so old yet they do not suck. Ps: I love old movies. Have any of you seen the first Tarzan movie (black and white) ? It is so funny It is really worth watching.

11-01-2004, 07:18 AM	#20
Elessar the Elfstone Enting Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Usually located Bree Inn of the prancing pony Posts: 59	In that transmission scene where the emporor only says Luke is the son of anikain skywalker which is telling the audiance what they allready know remember if your watching these films for the first time you don't know vader and anikian are the same person so it doesn't spoil anything and in the original scene the empoeror says that luke is anikian's son it's just worded slightly differently its just because the entire scene has been redone that anybody has noticed. and can anyone tell me why they redid the digital stuff that was on the VHS special edition like the scene in ANH between Jabba and han, and the duback outside the cantina why have they redone them again again?

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