Writing using Tengwar characters - II

[Rían]

[moderator note - from Rian's opening post to the first thread, which is here ]

Ok, I did a search on this and found "speaking in Elvish" threads but not one specifically on writing using the Tengwar characters, so here goes...

I didn't have time/talent to learn elvish, so I decided to help satisfy my M.E. cravings by learning the Tengwar characters for the English mode and write in English using Tengwar. It is really fun, and also - I don't know, I guess almost physically enjoyable (to me, they just look so pretty! I think Tolkien wrote somewhere that he wanted to invent characters that were visually pleasing). They look nice written with a chisel-point pen, but a regular one works just fine, too.

It took a little bit of time to memorize them so I could write fluently, and I still can't read quickly (I have to go character by character except for words of 2 characters, which I can read right away), but it was well worth it, plus you can write ANYTHING you want down in a journal and not worry about someone finding it and reading it! (at least no one around me can read it!)

I know katya writes in Tengwar - anyone else?


***********Edit: It's almost 8 months later, and I"m still happily writing Tengwar! Some new Tengwar fans have recently joined, and just for the sake of convenience, I'm editing this post and adding the two best links on Tengwar that I've found: the passagen link and the elfique link .

***********Edit: I thought I would add some links to some of the attachments that people had, to show off our all our fun and unique and pretty Tengwar
Earniel's Elvish rock
RÃ*an's Nargothrond poem from Lays of Beleriand

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*bump*

So, any more Tengwar writers here? Anyone that wants to learn?

I need to re-learn, because I haven't done it in awhile!


Nov 2010 - edit to add links that changed - passagen is now at http://at.mansbjorkman.net/ and called Amanye Tenceli

[Arien the Maia]

I finished writing a paragraph in the Sil for one of my art projects....it was rather stressful b/c I couldn't decide on if I should translate letter for letter or by phonetics!

[Rían]

yeah, it's kinda personal taste, which I like, actually ...

[Arien the Maia]

Originally Posted by RÃ*an

yeah, it's kinda personal taste, which I like, actually ...

I ended up doing both basically it came down to whatever looked better! But I did vary between the English/Quenya versions though I only used Quenya for the names of Feanaro and Nerdanel.

[trolls' bane]

Originally Posted by Arien the Maia

I finished writing a paragraph in the Sil for one of my art projects....it was rather stressful b/c I couldn't decide on if I should translate letter for letter or by phonetics!

Who cares? Not like anyone else can read it.

[Arien the Maia]

Originally Posted by trolls' bane

Who cares? Not like anyone else can read it.

true...but it will bug me if it's not all the same

[Rían]

yeah, that's like when I crochet an entire scarf and I always see the one teensy error in it!

[Arien the Maia]

Originally Posted by RÃ*an

yeah, that's like when I crochet an entire scarf and I always see the one teensy error in it!

doncha just hate that!

[Hirulin]

Greetings my fellow Tolkien Nuts!

I am starting this thread as I know of no other way to find a like-minded individual with which to write to in the Tengwar script!

I have been writing with the tengwar for a good few years now, and so far, I have written only to myself (not in a wierd way! But journals, poems etc!)

I Love to write in this script and would love it even more if I could write to some-one else who could read it! (and possibly give me some pointers on errors etc, although I feel I've pretty much nailed it now!)

Basically, I'm looking for a "pen/key-pal"! I'm 25 and live in Yorkshire in the UK.

I have a scanner, so if you'd rather scan and e-mail the letters (which I'd fully understand) thats not a problem!

I look forward to writing to you!

By the way, I write in the Sindarin mode (i.e. Vowels above the letter they precede) but with English words (I can't speak sindarin, I only know a few words courtesy of Thorsten Renk's "Pedin Edhellen" [sindarin course] )

My e-mail is nikki.dione@yahoo.co.uk Please feel free to e-mail me any letters/notes in sindarin as you see fit, any e-mail will be replied to!

Thanks again and till next time

cuio vae!

[katya]

Ooh, Tengwar! I might just have to take you up on that. I used to write in the tengwar all the time but it's been a while and I'll have to refresh my memory on it. There's a thread around here on tengwar in I think the Middle Earth forum (which is there I imagine this thread will be moved to) with a lot of discussion and writings we've posted.

I've been meaning to re-learn how to write, I have a little bit of motivation now. I think it'll come back quickly enough.

[Hirulin]

Oooh, I didn't see that thread! Will go a hunting! Thanx katya! Hope some-one takes me up on it! lol!

I'm sure it'll all come back to you hun! what mode do/did you write in?

[katya]

I can't remember what it's called, but for example, "cat" would be spelled with a K first and then a T with the "a" over top of it. And phonetically, not like trying to spell things out. Like "school" would be "S-K-u/L" and not trying to figure out the "c" and "h" or writing two O's. We did a lot of playing around with S curves too, and also I think the special characters for "the" and "of".

[Hirulin]

Sounds like the Sindarin/English mode! Although, I do tend to use ALL the symbols (inc. sh, ch, th, dh etc!) once you start using them, it becomes surprisingly easy to work out which symbols are needed for which dipthong! and double "o", I just attatch a line before the first "o" to denote a doubling (J.R.R did mention about doubling with consonants, but not [to my knowledge] about vowels!) I've made a "cheat sheet" any-ways so if I am feeling a little slow (or like now, drunk!!!) I can easily check which is needed!

(sorry for being droll! Cherry's kicked in! lol!

[katya]

Drunken posting! Oh my! Yes I use the ch, sh, (even dh!) too.

[Hirulin]

hehe! *raises glass in a toast to tolkien*

If you feel like getting back into it hun, my e-mail is in my first post! Feel free, in fact, I'd welcome it! especially as we write in the same mode (as far as I can ascertain)

*does a little drunken jig around the room!*

[Gwaimir Windgem]

I've just downed a half a bottle of rose wine, so I'm feeling you, Hir!

Welcome to the Moot, by the way.

[EllethValatari]

Originally Posted by Hirulin

By the way, I write in the Sindarin mode (i.e. Vowels above the letter they precede) but with English words (I can't speak sindarin, I only know a few words courtesy of Thorsten Renk's "Pedin Edhellen" [sindarin course] )

I loved his course so much I printed it off and got it spiral-bound (and yes, my parents made me pay for the paper)! I'll have to take you up of that too, and it will be good practice plus I won't have to look up vocab and review the grammar!

[Hirulin]

I must admit that I used his course mainly for the writing side of things, although I do use it for reference regarding sindarin vocab! But even so, I enjoy a challenge. write me with sindarin words if you wish and I'll TRY to translate and write back! Lol! Again, email is in the first post in the thread. Write me anything you wish! Lol!

[Hirulin]

not sure if this will work as I'm doing this on my mobile but here's A Elbereth Gilthoniel that I wrote. I think there's a couple of errors in there, but not many at all! Oh, and the borders from ms publisher, I can't draw! Lol!


Not gonna work! Will do it when I'm on the pc! Lol!

[katya]

Half a bottle of wine would get me smashed.

I am so tempted to start studying the elvish languages again. If only there weren't so many real world languages to work on that I will actually need.... At least Tengwar is a very finite amount of information to learn. I can justify spending time on that. (Ah, compared to trying to learn hundreds of kanji, it sounds so easy.)