Oh no hes gone for a cheasy ending (spoilers) - Page 3

Cirdan · 05-10-2003, 11:55 PM

How dumb is it to wait for the last movie to put in a physical Sauron after complaining about how difficult is wad to have an eye as the evil one. Wouldn't it have been easier to change it early on if it is to be done at all? The Legolas bit sounds likely but I doubt the Sauron rumor. I heard another rumor than Saruon would be shown as the ring was being destroyed. I'll watch it as a rental if this rumor is true. Why irritate myself and pay $30 for the privilege?

***Khamûl*** · 05-11-2003, 12:00 AM

All I have to say is:

Figures.

gimli7410 · 05-11-2003, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by Cirdan
How dumb is it to wait for the last movie to put in a physical Sauron after complaining about how difficult is wad to have an eye as the evil one. Wouldn't it have been easier to change it early on if it is to be done at all? The Legolas bit sounds likely but I doubt the Sauron rumor. I heard another rumor than Saruon would be shown as the ring was being destroyed. I'll watch it as a rental if this rumor is true. Why irritate myself and pay $30 for the privilege?

you pay 30 dollars just to go see the movie

where do you live

Cirdan · 05-11-2003, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by gimli7410
you pay 30 dollars just to go see the movie where do you live

Can't go w/o the family, now can I? We can all watch the rental for the same low, low, price.

gimli7410 · 05-11-2003, 12:43 AM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i never thought of that. you learn something new everyday

Lalaith_Elf · 05-11-2003, 04:54 AM

i only go and see it about once... then by the magic of pirates that somehow work into a friends hands

well he does get three of us in one household buying the extended version.... we all wanted the bookends alright???!!!

Black Breathalizer · 05-11-2003, 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by Dreran the Green
Oh, and IF, and I'm sayin' IF PJ did give Sauron physical form to match him to Gandalf, Then what I'd like to know is why its ARAGORN and not GANDALF fighting Sauron!?! Does this make sense to anyone but me?? Or have I gone back into being crazy again??

It would be very logical for Sauron to fight Aragorn. He would be a stronger match physically than anyone else (although still not in Sauron's league) but more importantly, he is the heir of Isildur. I'm sure Sauron would like nothing better than to kick his butt. It would be the classic 'david versus goliath' scene and a very dramatic finale to the war of the ring.

Elf Girl · 05-11-2003, 07:26 AM

Yeah, except David has absolutely no chance of winning; as there was no Ring to cut from Sauron's finger. Aragorn would never do that! Even if he was confident the Ring would be destroyed, he would have no way of knowing it would happen before Sauron squashed him into heir-of-Isildur goo. He has no children; the line of kings would be forever broken!

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Originally posted by Lizra
Confuse me! I can take it!

Yeah, you can take it, but don't you think the fact that it will confuse some people will make it a crummy movie? (Not that it wouldn't already be...)

BB: Okay, are you saying that this ending is better than Tolkien's? If so, what will you do if your almighty god Jackson raises up his hand and squashes this rumour into the dust? Will you squirm and say 'Well, he's the professional. He knows what he's doing.'?

And please comment on the confusion factor in my above post. (No one shall ignore the almighty Elf Girl! Bwahahaha!)

Black Breathalizer · 05-11-2003, 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by Elf Girl
Yeah, except David has absolutely no chance of winning; as there was no Ring to cut from Sauron's finger.

That's the drama, Elf Girl. Aragorn and the audience know that Sauron will beat him to a plup. The suspense is whether or not Aragorn will survive until the ring is destroyed. Aragorn's act is a self-sacrificing one. He expects to die.

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Originally posted by Elf Girl
BB: Okay, are you saying that this ending is better than Tolkien's? If so, what will you do if your almighty god Jackson raises up his hand and squashes this rumour into the dust? Will you squirm and say 'Well, he's the professional. He knows what he's doing.'?

First, this scenario is essentially the same; you're just getting literally-minded again.

I will be okay if it's just a rumor...but it feels right...and very exciting!!!

Lalaith_Elf · 05-11-2003, 07:40 AM

i lost the conversation in this thread a long time ago so i'm just going to sit and nod my head and smile like a demented penguin looking like she know's whats going on

Elf Girl · 05-11-2003, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
That's the drama, Elf Girl. Aragorn and the audience know that Sauron will beat him to a plup. The suspense is whether or not Aragorn will survive until the ring is destroyed. Aragorn's act is a self-sacrificing one. He expects to die.

I don't believe event the movie Aragorn would go into a battle he knows he cannot win. He would lead an army into battle, because even it they are outnumbered a thousand to one, it takes time to kill an army, and they needed to disguise the quest of the Ringbearer. Aragorn assaulting Sauron is not disguising the quest of the Ringbearer, since it would make it pretty obvious that Aragorn has not got the Ring. So would Aragorn willingly deprive Gondor of it's king?

Heh, heh, heh... 'beaten into a plup'...

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Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
First, this scenario is essentially the same; you're just getting literally-minded again.

Your saying it's essentially the same as TOLKIEN'S?! *splutter*

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Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
I will be okay if it's just a rumor...but it feels right...and very exciting!!!

So if they don't do it, you will wish they had, yes?

Dreran the Green · 05-11-2003, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
It would be very logical for Sauron to fight Aragorn. He would be a stronger match physically than anyone else (although still not in Sauron's league) but more importantly, he is the heir of Isildur. I'm sure Sauron would like nothing better than to kick his butt. It would be the classic 'david versus goliath' scene and a very dramatic finale to the war of the ring.

Yeah...I kinda figured that...you know, another part of Aragorn's fullfilling his destiny. Like that line Arwen said in FotR, "You will face the same evil, and you will win" wasn't that it? I just like Gandalf more than Aragorn, that's all.

I know it wouldn't make sense, but then again the whole scene doesn't make much sense to begin with if you ask me.

Lizra · 05-11-2003, 09:53 AM

Yeah, but poor old Gandalf's been through enough already! Make the virile young pup earn his crown!

Mmmmmmm!

Dreran the Green · 05-11-2003, 10:18 AM

Can't argue with that

gimli7410 · 05-11-2003, 10:51 AM

I have seen a scene from the movie where gandalf is talking to aragorn and he say"the one person(sauron) he fears is you aragorn" or something along those lines.

Dreran the Green · 05-11-2003, 10:55 AM

Well if Gandalf says it then it must be true

Always trust Gandalf. Gandalf rocks

gimli7410 · 05-11-2003, 11:00 AM

yep and soon he will be dumbledore who i dont know if he will rock as much as. i think richard harris would have rocked more then ian does

Dreran the Green · 05-11-2003, 11:03 AM

Wait, wait wait! I thought the Mckellen/Dumbledore thing was just a rumour!Wasn't some irish guy being dumbledore?

gimli7410 · 05-11-2003, 11:04 AM

i read it in an article somewhere on the moot. ill go try and find it. brb

gimli7410 · 05-11-2003, 11:09 AM

oh wait you were right. it is michael gambon and he is irish. i wish richard harris was still alive he was sooo good at dumbledore

05-10-2003, 11:55 PM	#1
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	How dumb is it to wait for the last movie to put in a physical Sauron after complaining about how difficult is wad to have an eye as the evil one. Wouldn't it have been easier to change it early on if it is to be done at all? The Legolas bit sounds likely but I doubt the Sauron rumor. I heard another rumor than Saruon would be shown as the ring was being destroyed. I'll watch it as a rental if this rumor is true. Why irritate myself and pay $30 for the privilege? __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

05-11-2003, 12:00 AM	#2
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	All I have to say is: Figures. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

05-11-2003, 12:43 AM	#5
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i never thought of that. you learn something new everyday __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

05-11-2003, 04:54 AM	#6
Lalaith_Elf Her Infernal Majesty Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,188	i only go and see it about once... then by the magic of pirates that somehow work into a friends hands well he does get three of us in one household buying the extended version.... we all wanted the bookends alright???!!! __________________ "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

05-11-2003, 07:40 AM	#10
Lalaith_Elf Her Infernal Majesty Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,188	i lost the conversation in this thread a long time ago so i'm just going to sit and nod my head and smile like a demented penguin looking like she know's whats going on __________________ "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo Last edited by Lalaith_Elf : 05-11-2003 at 07:41 AM.

05-11-2003, 09:53 AM	#13
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Yeah, but poor old Gandalf's been through enough already! Make the virile young pup earn his crown! Mmmmmmm! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

05-11-2003, 10:18 AM	#14
Dreran the Green Lady of Legends Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missing. Reward if found. Posts: 1,083	Can't argue with that __________________ The end justifies the means, thought Aziraphale. And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.* *This is not actually true. The road to Hell is paved with frozen door to door salesmen. On weekends many of the younger demons go ice-skating down it. ~Good Omens

05-11-2003, 10:51 AM	#15
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	I have seen a scene from the movie where gandalf is talking to aragorn and he say"the one person(sauron) he fears is you aragorn" or something along those lines. __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

05-11-2003, 10:55 AM	#16
Dreran the Green Lady of Legends Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missing. Reward if found. Posts: 1,083	Well if Gandalf says it then it must be true Always trust Gandalf. Gandalf rocks __________________ The end justifies the means, thought Aziraphale. And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.* *This is not actually true. The road to Hell is paved with frozen door to door salesmen. On weekends many of the younger demons go ice-skating down it. ~Good Omens

05-11-2003, 11:00 AM	#17
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	yep and soon he will be dumbledore who i dont know if he will rock as much as. i think richard harris would have rocked more then ian does __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

05-11-2003, 11:03 AM	#18
Dreran the Green Lady of Legends Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missing. Reward if found. Posts: 1,083	Wait, wait wait! I thought the Mckellen/Dumbledore thing was just a rumour!Wasn't some irish guy being dumbledore? __________________ The end justifies the means, thought Aziraphale. And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.* *This is not actually true. The road to Hell is paved with frozen door to door salesmen. On weekends many of the younger demons go ice-skating down it. ~Good Omens

05-11-2003, 11:04 AM	#19
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	i read it in an article somewhere on the moot. ill go try and find it. brb __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

05-11-2003, 11:09 AM	#20
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	oh wait you were right. it is michael gambon and he is irish. i wish richard harris was still alive he was sooo good at dumbledore __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

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