Extended Edition of FotR!! - Page 13

olsonm · 11-25-2002, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
Wel you sort of implied that it was because it wasn't what expected when you said this...

That implied no such thing. We were talking about what PJ had said about the movie and what expectations those might have engendered. You negelected to produce my full qoute:

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And there you have it, it wasn't what JD expected. To be quite frank, I expected more changes than what they did. I can understand that you would have liked to know before hand about these things, but I don't see them as contradicting what PJ said earlier.

I'm clearly talking about expectations before seeing the movie not reactions after seeing it. I then provided a link to an early PJ interview to support my claims.

jerseydevil · 11-25-2002, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by olsonm
That implied no such thing. We were talking about what PJ had said about the movie and what expectations those might have engendered. You negelected to produce my full qoute:
I'm clearly talking about expectations before seeing the movie not reactions after seeing it. I then provided a link to an early PJ interview to support my claims.

And I read the interview. He never hints that he'd completely BUTCHER the Flight to the Ford scene or that he's completely change Aragorns character. I was expecting some changes - but not to those areas.

It's even funny in the Directors cut - when they come to the most hated scene in the movie - which I know they are aware that it is - all they talk about is the "controversy" of Arwen calling up the water. As if that is what the majority of people hate about that scene. If they're going to address the outrage in that scene - at least address the part that people are actually outraged by.

olsonm · 11-25-2002, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
And I read the interview. He never hints that he'd completely BUTCHER the Flight to the Ford scene or that he's completely change Aragorns character. I was expecting some changes - but not to those areas.

Just because you think they were butchered doesn't mean PJ does. And again, just because you didn't expect the change doesn't have anything to do with PJ. He didn't have to tell anyone what changes he made. Calling it his interpretation and telling people not to expect "The Lord of the Rings" should have been sufficient. In fact, it was this quote which left me unconcerned with the fidelity of the film. I accept PJ's notion of interpretation. You don't have to.

Elf.Freak · 12-07-2002, 05:04 PM

i like the Cast's comments on Disk 1, especially when Dominic MOnagen explains about 'Tig' and how Elijah believed it was a real game for a year! lol

Entlover · 12-07-2002, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
- all they talk about is the "controversy" of Arwen calling up the water. As if that is what the majority of people hate about that scene. If they're going to address the outrage in that scene - at least address the part that people are actually outraged by. [/B]

As a Tolkien style purist, I'm like to comment on the use of "outrage" in this context. I submit that it's best to keep our priorities sorted out (as Ron Weasley would say!) and keep words like outrage for terrorist attacks, etc.
I find Arwen's scene irritating, (for the reasons JD states, that she stole Frodo's thunder), but save my outrage for events other than disputes over artistic licence.

Erawyn · 12-08-2002, 08:14 PM

I recently saw the ex. version, but on VHS so i haven't seen the commentary on it, and frankly i don't care about it all taht much. I did think that the ex. version was pretty good though, especially the added scenes in and after Lothlorien. I thought the argument between Aragorn and Boromir was really good and made the whole part from where Boromir tries to take the ring to when he dies all the more meaningful.
The added part at the council, where boromir tries to take the ring, and then a disembodied voice starts yelling at them, was in my opinion, really miscalculated, as the tone for the rest of the council is too relaxed. also what is the voice supposed to be exactly?

***Khamûl*** · 12-08-2002, 11:59 PM

The 'disembodied voice' is that of Gandalf reciting the verse on the Ring in the Black Speech. If you'll notice, the sun goes dark just like in the book.

Lizra · 12-09-2002, 12:47 AM

Gandalf sounds like he has marbles in his mouth!

Arathorn · 12-09-2002, 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by Lizra
Gandalf sounds like he has marbles in his mouth!

LOL!

Don't have the extended version yet but I can just imagine:

"Amn namng nurmanuluk amn namng ngimratul amn namng nrakanuluk ang mursum ihi mimbanul...<burp>"

Lanelf · 12-09-2002, 04:02 AM

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Originally posted by Lizra
Gandalf sounds like he has marbles in his mouth!

You haven't seen My Fair Lady, have you?

LOL!
Lanelf.

Starr Polish · 12-09-2002, 07:58 PM

The extended version is now on DirectTV Pay-Per-View. The TTT fever must be revving up, because they also have a double feature: Rankin Bass "The Hobbit" and "The Return of the King" for $4.99!

barrelrider110 · 12-11-2002, 04:25 PM

My favorite part of the extended version was seeing Cate Blanchett smile.

Gwaimir Windgem · 12-11-2002, 07:22 PM

Oh good, a PJ griping topic!

The Fellowship of the Ring was not very accurate to the books at all. My biggest problem was the removal of certain really cool characters. But I'll stop that here.

It was a good fantasy movie; however, it was not the Lord of the Rings. Watch it as a fantasy movie with no connection to the Lord of the Rings, and it's a great movie; better with the Extended Edition.

The Ringbearer · 12-12-2002, 02:27 AM

WAHOOOOIIIIEEEEEE!!!!!!! We hasssss it at lassssst!!!!!! My PRECIOUSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!.....

Yay!

Blackboar · 12-15-2002, 03:43 PM

Huh?

I love the extended edition!!!

Curunír · 12-15-2002, 03:53 PM

I found the EE also better than the original! More jokes and more Hobbits, great! All the scenes are better, I found.

***gdl96*** · 03-13-2003, 10:56 PM

I got the extended DVD about 2 or 3 weeks ago and I have finally made my way through all the documentaries!

Now to watch the movie with all four commentary tracks!

englishnerd · 03-15-2003, 07:11 PM

I think the extra scenes in the extended edition clarified the story. I almost wish I had seen it that way first, I would have been way less irritated with FOTR. Anyone else wish they would have cut a few minutes from the special effects monster scenes like the Watcher in the water and the Cave troll to add in some of the scenes from the extended edition?

I really liked Gimli's gift part. Totally adds more to his character. u

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-15-2003, 08:59 PM

I most certainly do. Or maybe Tom Bombadil!

12-07-2002, 05:04 PM	#244
Elf.Freak Orli's lil fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sugar World/Orlando Bloom Cloud Posts: 464	i like the Cast's comments on Disk 1, especially when Dominic MOnagen explains about 'Tig' and how Elijah believed it was a real game for a year! lol __________________ >>--elven arrow--> ~ Give a man a fish and he'll feed for a day, give me a fish and you'll only get it back! ~ I've gotta new avatar! looks kinda like me...anime style! ~ LOST: Orlando Bloom. If found, please send him straight to Elf.Freak

12-08-2002, 08:14 PM	#246
Erawyn Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: america junior Posts: 320	I recently saw the ex. version, but on VHS so i haven't seen the commentary on it, and frankly i don't care about it all taht much. I did think that the ex. version was pretty good though, especially the added scenes in and after Lothlorien. I thought the argument between Aragorn and Boromir was really good and made the whole part from where Boromir tries to take the ring to when he dies all the more meaningful. The added part at the council, where boromir tries to take the ring, and then a disembodied voice starts yelling at them, was in my opinion, really miscalculated, as the tone for the rest of the council is too relaxed. also what is the voice supposed to be exactly? __________________ peace never hurt anyone "Be not so bigoted to any custom as to worship it at the expense of Truth." Johann Georg von Zimmermann

12-08-2002, 11:59 PM	#247
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	The 'disembodied voice' is that of Gandalf reciting the verse on the Ring in the Black Speech. If you'll notice, the sun goes dark just like in the book. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

12-09-2002, 12:47 AM	#248
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Gandalf sounds like he has marbles in his mouth! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

12-09-2002, 07:58 PM	#251
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	The extended version is now on DirectTV Pay-Per-View. The TTT fever must be revving up, because they also have a double feature: Rankin Bass "The Hobbit" and "The Return of the King" for $4.99! __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

12-11-2002, 04:25 PM	#252
barrelrider110 Peer of the realm of Sanguine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Hill, Marlton, NJ Posts: 798	My favorite part of the extended version was seeing Cate Blanchett smile. __________________ “"I am the friend of bears and the guest of eagles. I am Ringwinner and Luckwearer; and I am Barrel-rider," Fear Complacency! ___________________ Something under the bed is drooling

12-11-2002, 07:22 PM	#253
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Oh good, a PJ griping topic! The Fellowship of the Ring was not very accurate to the books at all. My biggest problem was the removal of certain really cool characters. But I'll stop that here. It was a good fantasy movie; however, it was not the Lord of the Rings. Watch it as a fantasy movie with no connection to the Lord of the Rings, and it's a great movie; better with the Extended Edition. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

12-12-2002, 02:27 AM	#254
The Ringbearer Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Crickhollow in the summer, and Rivendell in the winter Posts: 397	WAHOOOOIIIIEEEEEE!!!!!!! We hasssss it at lassssst!!!!!! My PRECIOUSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!..... Yay! __________________ 'Go away, and never come back!!' '......what?' 'But you're a part of this world! Aren't you?' Frodo lives!

12-15-2002, 03:43 PM	#255
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	Huh? I love the extended edition!!!

12-15-2002, 03:53 PM	#256
Curunír Enting Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: iepe kriepe friepe liepe Posts: 95	I found the EE also better than the original! More jokes and more Hobbits, great! All the scenes are better, I found. __________________ Innie winnie frimmie zillie hoele kroele froele troele ape krape rape zape ulle frulle kulle a cup of milk huy!

03-13-2003, 10:56 PM	#257
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	I got the extended DVD about 2 or 3 weeks ago and I have finally made my way through all the documentaries! Now to watch the movie with all four commentary tracks!

03-15-2003, 07:11 PM	#258
englishnerd Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 39	I think the extra scenes in the extended edition clarified the story. I almost wish I had seen it that way first, I would have been way less irritated with FOTR. Anyone else wish they would have cut a few minutes from the special effects monster scenes like the Watcher in the water and the Cave troll to add in some of the scenes from the extended edition? I really liked Gimli's gift part. Totally adds more to his character. u __________________ "Wrestle with me; I want to name you." **************************** "Have you ever tried to get up with a sprained dignity?"---Mrs. Who from A Wrinkle in Time

03-15-2003, 08:59 PM	#259
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I most certainly do. Or maybe Tom Bombadil! __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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