A Question.

Rûdhaglarien · 08-27-2004, 05:23 PM

I only just realized this:

At the end of GoF, why doesn't Harry see the horses drawing the carriages? The reason is probably mentioned somewhere, but I've missed it, if it was.

He has already witnessed Cedric's death, so... why can't he see them?

sirigorn · 08-27-2004, 08:35 PM

This was explained by JKR. She said that you have to come to terms with the death before you see them. Harry hadn't fully comprehended it yet, you could say, and he definatly hadn't come to terms with it yet, which is why he couldn't see them yet. He was still in shock from it.

~Siri~

Lizra · 08-27-2004, 08:52 PM

Heh! Sounds pretty fishy to me!

sirigorn · 08-27-2004, 09:29 PM

She says she thought about it. Here's exactly what she said:
"Harry had just seen Cedric die when he got back into the carriages to go back to Hogsmeade station. I thought about that at the end of Goblet, because I have known from the word go what was drawing the carriages. From Chamber of Secrets, in which there are carriages drawn by invisible things, I have known what was there. I decided that it would be an odd thing to do right at the end of a book. Anyone who has suffered a bereavement knows that there is the immediate shock but that it takes a little while to appreciate fully that you will never see that person again. Until that had happened, I did not think that Harry could see the Thestrals. That means that when he goes back, he saw these spooky things. It set the tone for Phoenix, which is a much darker book."

~Siri~

Telcontar_Dunedain · 08-28-2004, 02:32 AM

But didn't Harry see his parents die so shouldn't he have been able to see them all the time.

***azalea*** · 08-28-2004, 02:06 PM

He was in his crib at the time, according to JKR.

Rûdhaglarien · 08-29-2004, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirigorn

This was explained by JKR. She said that you have to come to terms with the death before you see them. Harry hadn't fully comprehended it yet, you could say, and he definatly hadn't come to terms with it yet, which is why he couldn't see them yet. He was still in shock from it.

~Siri~

That's what we were thinking (we being my sister and I), but I was lazy and, instead of figuring it out for meeself, I just asked you! Thanks.

08-27-2004, 05:23 PM	#1
Rûdhaglarien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 288	A Question. I only just realized this: At the end of GoF, why doesn't Harry see the horses drawing the carriages? The reason is probably mentioned somewhere, but I've missed it, if it was. He has already witnessed Cedric's death, so... why can't he see them? __________________ I have a very expensive pen.

08-27-2004, 08:35 PM	#2
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	This was explained by JKR. She said that you have to come to terms with the death before you see them. Harry hadn't fully comprehended it yet, you could say, and he definatly hadn't come to terms with it yet, which is why he couldn't see them yet. He was still in shock from it. ~Siri~ __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

08-27-2004, 08:52 PM	#3
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Heh! Sounds pretty fishy to me! __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

08-27-2004, 09:29 PM	#4
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	She says she thought about it. Here's exactly what she said: "Harry had just seen Cedric die when he got back into the carriages to go back to Hogsmeade station. I thought about that at the end of Goblet, because I have known from the word go what was drawing the carriages. From Chamber of Secrets, in which there are carriages drawn by invisible things, I have known what was there. I decided that it would be an odd thing to do right at the end of a book. Anyone who has suffered a bereavement knows that there is the immediate shock but that it takes a little while to appreciate fully that you will never see that person again. Until that had happened, I did not think that Harry could see the Thestrals. That means that when he goes back, he saw these spooky things. It set the tone for Phoenix, which is a much darker book." ~Siri~ __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

08-28-2004, 02:32 AM	#5
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	But didn't Harry see his parents die so shouldn't he have been able to see them all the time. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

08-28-2004, 02:06 PM	#6
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	He was in his crib at the time, according to JKR.

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