The decline of entmoot - Page 5

Arathorn · 05-26-2002, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeardofPants
... Then construct a scatter graph and work out the margin of error.

...then do an applet that implements the algorithm and links-up with the entmoot software engine so that we can have a real-time mapping of that decline as new mooters register.

afro-elf · 05-26-2002, 02:03 PM

you are sick and I LOVE IT

LOL

Lady Midnight · 05-26-2002, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerseydevil
I can' t really say what Entmoot was like before December. I think I had stopped by several times just to read - but I didn't actually sign up until December.

I go into the archives to get information about what was going on before - I found this dated July 29, 2000 - almost two years ago. It was posted by Tater.

quote:
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A pledge to Entmoot

I've been a jerk lately, especially here at entmoot. When the board first started I was the mean admin, since I felt it was nesecary since anduin and Ben weren't. I realized I was wrong and stopped being mean for a while. Just recently I started enforcing rules that don't really matter and I've just been a jerk about it. I've been under a lot of stress lately, but that's not your faults and I shouldn't take it out on you. I'm gonna stop. Unless someone's braking a rule hurts anyone (minus starting add threads, that hurts the server ) I'm not gonna enforce rules that are unnesecary. I'd especially like to issue a public apology to anduin, who I think I really hurt recently. I'm sorry, and I promise to try my best to do better. From now on I'll be a changed Tater (that sounds funny). Tell me if I'm a jerk, I'll try my best not to be. This place should be fun, and I'll do my best to make sure it is!

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On that point I am utterly speechless.

As to whether the 'Moot is declining I really could not say. I've only been here since Jaunary and I went away for a bit. So I don't know what this place was like before the film came out. It looks like it could be a good board. I don't think the quality of the discussions here matter. It's up to you and what you make of it. If you want a particularly high-brow debate go and have one.

But myself and the two friends I brought with me, Griff andEd came here from SlipstreamBBS, mainly because, at that time, we needed a break from that board. There'd been problems. At least one forum had disolved into something bordering on a flamewar, mainly because several months previously, Robert Hewitt Wolfe had been sacked from his position as Executive Producer of Andromeda. It was just too depressing to be there.

OTOH I don't feel the same sense of camaraderie here that I do at Slipstream. It's a community. Maybe it's because I haven't been here as long or as often. Maybe it's something else. But I have often wondered why I go back to Slipstream. And then I realise I've made life-long friends there.

I'd really like to see that happen here. Maybe it will. Then again maybe it's down to me.

Darth Tater · 05-26-2002, 05:01 PM

Actually, we've got quite a good community here IMO. I know I've made some lifelong friends, and I know other groups of people who have as well.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-26-2002, 05:21 PM

I would agree with Tater, though I am relatively new. . .entmoot is a really great place.

BeardofPants · 09-02-2002, 11:43 PM

I take it all back. What's with all the trolls, bad spelling, caps lock happy, lacunae over usage, redundant threads, polls, and un-thought provoking replies/threads, and dare I say it, spam?

***Ben*** · 09-02-2002, 11:52 PM

I'm working on it.

Would you recommend a moratorium on new poll topics for awhile? (Favorite rug color and method of destruction are certainly pushing it

)

BeardofPants · 09-02-2002, 11:57 PM

Have I thanked the mods, and admins for all their hard work lately? You guys do a great job running this site.

It's just a pity that it has to be overrun by morons.

I think the moratorium would be a great idea. Yes/no threads are really just a waste of space.

jerseydevil · 09-03-2002, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeardofPants

I think the moratorium would be a great idea. Yes/no threads are really just a waste of space.

I agree. Threads that promote no discussion are a waste of webspace and bandwidth. "Yes/No - one line reply" threads are dead after about 5-10 posts and just take up disk space.

Duddun · 09-03-2002, 12:13 AM

They do just take up disk space.

Rána Eressëa · 09-03-2002, 04:33 PM

I don't believe in the closing of threads. If they're pointless yes-no or outright bashing members/mods/admin things, they should be deleted, I tell you, deleted!

You should only close threads if they were long, classics that ran off topic and such.

***Ben*** · 09-03-2002, 04:42 PM

There are several reasons why closed threads should remain in existence, at least for awhile:

1. So the person who started the thread can see his error. Otherwise we'd get another thread saying "Hey, what happened to my topic?"
2. As an example to other people. If a thread is closed and someone is banned for flaming, people will realize the rules are actually enforced.
3. As evidence. Sometimes the mods discuss what to do about a particular member, and if his rampage is still preserved, the mods who were perhaps not there that day can still see what went on.

I am deleting some old, closed posts now, though. I noticed that when a post is deleted, those posts no longer count towards the users' post totals, so if you've wondered why your total went down, that's why. Several people had quite a large dip after Calvinball bit the dust

.

Rána Eressëa · 09-03-2002, 04:46 PM

Yeah, leave them up for a while. But delete them when they fall onto the second page.

Andúril · 09-03-2002, 05:06 PM

How much work will be needed to implement a rating system, based on the quality of individual posts?

***Ben*** · 09-03-2002, 05:21 PM

Do you mean rating users or posts?

Either way, spammers could just register additional usernames to increase the ratings of themselves and their posts.

Sween · 09-03-2002, 06:48 PM

i think im to blame. Damn that film attracting people who would of never of thought of reading a book

im soooooo happy tonight

samwiselvr2008 · 09-03-2002, 08:10 PM

I am so tired of it! At first I was joking around with it, but please, it isn't that I don't ceer, its that I CAN NOT SPELL! I have heard you complaine about this so many times, it is really getting anoying! I have anjoyed this site though, it has ben grate for me, most sites I go to are allot worse, and well, I am just happy that this site is open to diffrent beliefs, and people. I am glad to be hear, and it gets me mad that people would think less of me, just because I only have 200 and something posts, and I just came a couple months back, and finally because I am bad at spelling! I think that you should all be happy whene more people come, and if you hate bad spelling, then maybe you can just try to agnor it or somthing, that really is starting to anoy me! Please, stop telling me how much I am making this site worse because I am a bad speller, I have said this before, and I will say it again, I CAN NOT SPELL! As I have allso have mentioned, I have tried lots of stuff to get better at spelling, and it hasn't helped me, I have tried things that some of you would probally never think about spelling, like writing words in salt, to see if that would help! You should be happy for new posts, and more opinions, I would be, and I am! So please stop getting mad at me, I know that I can't spell good, but can you stop telling me that? I have tried, and the truth is that I have just given up trieing to learn how to spell.

By the way, my teacher ones told me that some people, it has been scientificly proven can NOT spell, and some people can, so can you please stop? I know that I can't spell, so stop reminding me! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lizra · 09-03-2002, 08:51 PM

I understand Samwiselvr2008. Truely, I do. It's ok with me.

Starr Polish · 09-03-2002, 09:19 PM

Samwiseluvr, you definately aren't the worst offender, and you're not a troll or a spammer, who I find the most annoying. You also noted that you have been attempting to improve your spelling, and while not perfect, it is better.

cassiopeia · 09-03-2002, 10:51 PM

Samwise: It doesn't really bother me that you can't spell.

I don't know if this is the place to ask, but did someone modify entss88 (or whatever it is) status?

05-26-2002, 02:03 PM	#82
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	you are sick and I LOVE IT LOL __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

05-26-2002, 05:01 PM	#84
Darth Tater The man Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: MA Posts: 4,572	Actually, we've got quite a good community here IMO. I know I've made some lifelong friends, and I know other groups of people who have as well. __________________ Visit the worlds greatest webpage! No, not The Tolkien Trail! Just click this! The Tolkien Trail ~Camelot

05-26-2002, 05:21 PM	#85
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	I would agree with Tater, though I am relatively new. . .entmoot is a really great place. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

09-02-2002, 11:43 PM	#86
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I take it all back. What's with all the trolls, bad spelling, caps lock happy, lacunae over usage, redundant threads, polls, and un-thought provoking replies/threads, and dare I say it, spam? __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

09-02-2002, 11:52 PM	#87
*Ben* Retired Ent Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 60,631	I'm working on it. Would you recommend a moratorium on new poll topics for awhile? (Favorite rug color and method of destruction are certainly pushing it ) __________________ ---Ben formerly known in the forums as bmilder Owner of The Tolkien Trail and Entmoot. Buy Entmoot shirts and mugs!

09-02-2002, 11:57 PM	#88
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Have I thanked the mods, and admins for all their hard work lately? You guys do a great job running this site. It's just a pity that it has to be overrun by morons. I think the moratorium would be a great idea. Yes/no threads are really just a waste of space. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

09-03-2002, 12:13 AM	#90
Duddun I Antha Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: You expect ME to know? Posts: 784	They do just take up disk space. Last edited by Duddun : 09-03-2002 at 12:14 AM.

09-03-2002, 04:33 PM	#91
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I don't believe in the closing of threads. If they're pointless yes-no or outright bashing members/mods/admin things, they should be deleted, I tell you, deleted! You should only close threads if they were long, classics that ran off topic and such.

09-03-2002, 04:42 PM	#92
*Ben* Retired Ent Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 60,631	There are several reasons why closed threads should remain in existence, at least for awhile: 1. So the person who started the thread can see his error. Otherwise we'd get another thread saying "Hey, what happened to my topic?" 2. As an example to other people. If a thread is closed and someone is banned for flaming, people will realize the rules are actually enforced. 3. As evidence. Sometimes the mods discuss what to do about a particular member, and if his rampage is still preserved, the mods who were perhaps not there that day can still see what went on. I am deleting some old, closed posts now, though. I noticed that when a post is deleted, those posts no longer count towards the users' post totals, so if you've wondered why your total went down, that's why. Several people had quite a large dip after Calvinball bit the dust . __________________ ---Ben formerly known in the forums as bmilder Owner of The Tolkien Trail and Entmoot. Buy Entmoot shirts and mugs!

09-03-2002, 04:46 PM	#93
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Yeah, leave them up for a while. But delete them when they fall onto the second page.

09-03-2002, 05:06 PM	#94
Andúril The Original Corruptor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,881	How much work will be needed to implement a rating system, based on the quality of individual posts?

09-03-2002, 05:21 PM	#95
*Ben* Retired Ent Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 60,631	Do you mean rating users or posts? Either way, spammers could just register additional usernames to increase the ratings of themselves and their posts. __________________ ---Ben formerly known in the forums as bmilder Owner of The Tolkien Trail and Entmoot. Buy Entmoot shirts and mugs!

09-03-2002, 06:48 PM	#96
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	i think im to blame. Damn that film attracting people who would of never of thought of reading a book im soooooo happy tonight __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

09-03-2002, 08:10 PM	#97
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	I am tierd of hearing stuff about spelling ect.! I am so tired of it! At first I was joking around with it, but please, it isn't that I don't ceer, its that I CAN NOT SPELL! I have heard you complaine about this so many times, it is really getting anoying! I have anjoyed this site though, it has ben grate for me, most sites I go to are allot worse, and well, I am just happy that this site is open to diffrent beliefs, and people. I am glad to be hear, and it gets me mad that people would think less of me, just because I only have 200 and something posts, and I just came a couple months back, and finally because I am bad at spelling! I think that you should all be happy whene more people come, and if you hate bad spelling, then maybe you can just try to agnor it or somthing, that really is starting to anoy me! Please, stop telling me how much I am making this site worse because I am a bad speller, I have said this before, and I will say it again, I CAN NOT SPELL! As I have allso have mentioned, I have tried lots of stuff to get better at spelling, and it hasn't helped me, I have tried things that some of you would probally never think about spelling, like writing words in salt, to see if that would help! You should be happy for new posts, and more opinions, I would be, and I am! So please stop getting mad at me, I know that I can't spell good, but can you stop telling me that? I have tried, and the truth is that I have just given up trieing to learn how to spell. By the way, my teacher ones told me that some people, it has been scientificly proven can NOT spell, and some people can, so can you please stop? I know that I can't spell, so stop reminding me! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

09-03-2002, 08:51 PM	#98
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	I understand Samwiselvr2008. Truely, I do. It's ok with me. Last edited by Lizra : 09-03-2002 at 09:10 PM.

09-03-2002, 09:19 PM	#99
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Samwiseluvr, you definately aren't the worst offender, and you're not a troll or a spammer, who I find the most annoying. You also noted that you have been attempting to improve your spelling, and while not perfect, it is better. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

09-03-2002, 10:51 PM	#100
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	Samwise: It doesn't really bother me that you can't spell. I don't know if this is the place to ask, but did someone modify entss88 (or whatever it is) status? __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

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