characters - Page 5

afro-elf · 03-31-2003, 01:49 PM

4 unions, do not forget Mithrellass and Imarazor the Numenoreans.

I will not call them stupid , but it they truly fail to fit in with ME subcreation.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-31-2003, 04:15 PM

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4 unions, do not forget Mithrellass and Imarazor the Numenoreans.

I don't see where anyone mentioned this, but I expect you refer to "3 unions between the Eldar and the Edain". But Mithrellas was not an Elda, but a Silvan Elf, right?

afro-elf · 03-31-2003, 04:21 PM

If you said Eldar, I apologize.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-31-2003, 04:23 PM

No apology needed, I don't even know if I said either.

afro-elf · 03-31-2003, 04:25 PM

I will post this here then:

Since there has been some dissagreement on the other thread, how about a thread that is about CONGUOUS characters.

Check out this thread

http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/sho...hlight=changing

just thought up some levels of changing Tolkien's world due to role playing.

I am assuming that any kind of role playing is altering Tolkien's world in "some" manner.

Level one: These are the most superficial changes. They really do not affect the story in any noticable way.
ex.
a)You are a Hobbit that has heard of Old Bilbo Baggins but never met him.
b) You are a Ranger of the North, but you have never really had contact with the Heir of Isildur

Level two: These do not affect the world per se or they have a minor influence. They may give your character a little more importance.
ex.( using the LOTR text)

a) You were a Ranger within the Grey Company
b) You were an Elf or a Dwarf that accompanied Legolas or Gloin to Rivendell
c) You fought at Helm's Deep , The Pelinnor Fields, or were stationed at Cair Andros
d) You were in Beregond's company

Level three:
Breaking from "cannon" without a MAJOR change to the world.
ex.
a) My using brown skinned Avari.
b) Adding some more towns or cities.
c)Being related ( cousins or nephew etc closeness) to minor characters

Level four
This is the pushing it level. It's possible but it getting a tad extreme.
ex.
a) You are an Elf of Valinor that accompanied Glorfindel and the Blue wizards over in SA 1600. ( not a returning Elf like Glorfindel though)
b) Unwittingly you helped Sauron in the guise of Annatar to forge the Seven and the Nine.
c)Glorfindel was your personal trainer in arms.
d) Galadriel was your personal trainer in magic
f) You are the child of a "Major" character were it was not explicitly stated whether they had addition or any childern at all. You are a sibling of Legolas. the offspring of Maglor or Daeron.

Level Five
Here the changes are blantant and world changing.
ex.
a) You found the ring
b) you were a member of the fellowship
c) You killed smaug.

Level Six
Darn right outreagous
ex.
a)You were sent to ME to replace Gandalf.
b) You forged the Simirils
c) The Vala consult you

I would like your thought in general and additions( esp the first four levels

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-31-2003, 04:38 PM

I agree about 1-3, and four to some very minor extent (i. e. being trained by a character from the books, as long as it's not anything big about your character.)

afro-elf · 03-31-2003, 04:48 PM

Well, to beat a dead horse, if you ever want to run one here, I am still waiting.

Elf Girl · 03-31-2003, 04:53 PM

Hm. Here is my charechtar (by the way I would like you to know that this is true, this is my real self and who I am, not made up):

Name: LuhtarÃ*an ("enchanting one" in Quenya)
Age: 4312 (she thinks... isn't quite sure)
Description: Long light brown hair, fair skin, grey eyes.
Height: She isn't sure. Elves don't measure themselves. Perhaps 5'8?
Occupation: Healer
Location: LorÃ*en, however she is betrothed to Glorfindel and will be moving into Rivindell or going West after she marries him.
Weapons: She is a female Elf as they are represented in LotR, and does not bear arms.
Hobbies: Singing, she sometimes attempts to write songs, generally about the Third Age and it's passing.

I think by afro-elf's scale that's Level 4, what with being betrothed to Glorfindel and all, but it's TRUE, I can't help it if he showed up in LotR.

Elf Girl · 03-31-2003, 05:02 PM

Heheh. Aralorn, (she never posts here, but she's my friend in the real world) says not only did she save the Ring and draw out it's power and replace it with her own, but she's a Vala! Definately level six.

Nerindel · 03-31-2003, 06:28 PM

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I am assuming that any kind of role playing is altering Tolkien's world in "some" manner.

I totally agree with this, offcourse it changes things slightly.
But you'll never get me to back down on the half elf thing just because it wasn't written doesn't mean it couldn't happen

Well anyway heres a site for anyone who loves to Middle earth role play: [EDIT: address deleted. Advertising is only allowed in the advertising thread or in signatures -EÃ¤rniel]

Sicirus · 03-31-2003, 08:10 PM

Ninquelote I really don't care about your opinions. If you don't agree with the thread so much and just chose to put people down then maybe you should try NOT going to this thread.
ESpecially if it gets on you nerves soooooo much. Just bug off if you have such a problem with it. Plus its best if you don't insult people you DOn't know persinally. Just a thought you ought to you know.
(And no I am not going to try and track you down. I am just stating that fact.
Name: Coby
Race:Men
Gender: male
Appearance: short, tan skinned, dark brown hair, brown eyes.
Bio: is of the race of the Gondor and loves to sword fight. He adores his lama (yes, a lama, All hail the lama for they shall surelly rule) Wanders ME looking for a destiny unkown but never seems to use his sowrd unless to cut vines or branches for shelter. Ran away from home.
Lama's name is chickmote(don't ask)

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-01-2003, 02:08 AM

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Originally posted by afro-elf
Well, to beat a dead horse, if you ever want to run one here, I am still waiting.

Pffft. I wouldn't be any good at it. Wouldn't want to torture you.

Ninquelote · 04-01-2003, 08:00 PM

I'm not insulting anyone on a personal level, if you had any sense you'd realize that.

Ninquelote · 04-01-2003, 08:02 PM

Nor a 'persinal' one.

Sicirus · 04-01-2003, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninquelote
I'm not insulting anyone on a personal level, if you had any sense you'd realize that.

I first of all, never said you were insulting someone on a personal level. You just insulted people period. Personal would mean insulting them.
Which in my opinion (if you care but I doubt you do) insulting a persons imagination is pretty cold. Especailly for the fact of the age group who hang out on this site. You putting them down on a site they seek for fun is quite a thing to do.
(but thats just me.)

Ninquelote · 04-01-2003, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Plus its best if you don't insult people you DOn't know persinally.

And what is -this-, pray tell?
They have no imagination, which is something that should be known at least to them.

Elf Girl · 04-01-2003, 09:12 PM

To put in my two cents, I think being able to create a character with a personality, no matter what universe the character lives in, shows a great deal of imagination.

Gwaimir Windgem · 04-01-2003, 09:46 PM

I disagree with you there, Nin. They have imagination. The issue isn't lack of imagination, but rather OVER imagination, if you will; not caring about any form of "rules"; even maybe a bit of lack of respect for Tolkien's works. But certainly not a lack of imagination.

wahine · 04-01-2003, 10:01 PM

Dead horse? Where!?

sorry, couldn't help it. Not an rpger myself never tried it, just like reading posts that don't make sense...to me anyway.

Hi GW! *just being friendly to an adversary*

Ello Elf Girl!

Sicirus · 04-02-2003, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
I disagree with you there, Nin. They have imagination. The issue isn't lack of imagination, but rather OVER imagination, if you will; not caring about any form of "rules"; even maybe a bit of lack of respect for Tolkien's works. But certainly not a lack of imagination.

Thats how things started out on this rpg but we added just alittle bit of odd things here and there then we just had alittle tomuch fun and added alot. But thats ok, It can be changed to a thread for both Tolkien and your own creatures. I mean lets notput a limit onto fun when it comes to simply imagining it.
This thread is now for both your creatures and Tolkien's.

03-31-2003, 01:49 PM	#81
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	4 unions, do not forget Mithrellass and Imarazor the Numenoreans. I will not call them stupid , but it they truly fail to fit in with ME subcreation. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 03-31-2003 at 02:03 PM.

03-31-2003, 04:21 PM	#83
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	If you said Eldar, I apologize. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 03-31-2003 at 04:26 PM.

03-31-2003, 04:23 PM	#84
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	No apology needed, I don't even know if I said either. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-31-2003, 04:25 PM	#85
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	I will post this here then: Since there has been some dissagreement on the other thread, how about a thread that is about CONGUOUS characters. Check out this thread http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/sho...hlight=changing just thought up some levels of changing Tolkien's world due to role playing. I am assuming that any kind of role playing is altering Tolkien's world in "some" manner. Level one: These are the most superficial changes. They really do not affect the story in any noticable way. ex. a)You are a Hobbit that has heard of Old Bilbo Baggins but never met him. b) You are a Ranger of the North, but you have never really had contact with the Heir of Isildur Level two: These do not affect the world per se or they have a minor influence. They may give your character a little more importance. ex.( using the LOTR text) a) You were a Ranger within the Grey Company b) You were an Elf or a Dwarf that accompanied Legolas or Gloin to Rivendell c) You fought at Helm's Deep , The Pelinnor Fields, or were stationed at Cair Andros d) You were in Beregond's company Level three: Breaking from "cannon" without a MAJOR change to the world. ex. a) My using brown skinned Avari. b) Adding some more towns or cities. c)Being related ( cousins or nephew etc closeness) to minor characters Level four This is the pushing it level. It's possible but it getting a tad extreme. ex. a) You are an Elf of Valinor that accompanied Glorfindel and the Blue wizards over in SA 1600. ( not a returning Elf like Glorfindel though) b) Unwittingly you helped Sauron in the guise of Annatar to forge the Seven and the Nine. c)Glorfindel was your personal trainer in arms. d) Galadriel was your personal trainer in magic f) You are the child of a "Major" character were it was not explicitly stated whether they had addition or any childern at all. You are a sibling of Legolas. the offspring of Maglor or Daeron. Level Five Here the changes are blantant and world changing. ex. a) You found the ring b) you were a member of the fellowship c) You killed smaug. Level Six Darn right outreagous ex. a)You were sent to ME to replace Gandalf. b) You forged the Simirils c) The Vala consult you I would like your thought in general and additions( esp the first four levels __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 03-31-2003 at 04:27 PM.

03-31-2003, 04:38 PM	#86
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I agree about 1-3, and four to some very minor extent (i. e. being trained by a character from the books, as long as it's not anything big about your character.) __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-31-2003, 04:48 PM	#87
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Well, to beat a dead horse, if you ever want to run one here, I am still waiting. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-31-2003, 04:53 PM	#88
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LothlÃ³rien Posts: 3,419	Hm. Here is my charechtar (by the way I would like you to know that this is true, this is my real self and who I am, not made up): Name: LuhtarÃan ("enchanting one" in Quenya) Age: 4312 (she thinks... isn't quite sure) Description: Long light brown hair, fair skin, grey eyes. Height: She isn't sure. Elves don't measure themselves. Perhaps 5'8? Occupation: Healer Location: LorÃen, however she is betrothed to Glorfindel and will be moving into Rivindell or going West after she marries him. Weapons: She is a female Elf as they are represented in LotR, and does not bear arms. Hobbies: Singing, she sometimes attempts to write songs, generally about the Third Age and it's passing. I think by afro-elf's scale that's Level 4, what with being betrothed to Glorfindel and all, but it's TRUE, I can't help it if he showed up in LotR. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

03-31-2003, 05:02 PM	#89
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LothlÃ³rien Posts: 3,419	Heheh. Aralorn, (she never posts here, but she's my friend in the real world) says not only did she save the Ring and draw out it's power and replace it with her own, but she's a Vala! Definately level six. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

03-31-2003, 08:10 PM	#91
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	OK already.... Ninquelote I really don't care about your opinions. If you don't agree with the thread so much and just chose to put people down then maybe you should try NOT going to this thread. ESpecially if it gets on you nerves soooooo much. Just bug off if you have such a problem with it. Plus its best if you don't insult people you DOn't know persinally. Just a thought you ought to you know. (And no I am not going to try and track you down. I am just stating that fact. Name: Coby Race:Men Gender: male Appearance: short, tan skinned, dark brown hair, brown eyes. Bio: is of the race of the Gondor and loves to sword fight. He adores his lama (yes, a lama, All hail the lama for they shall surelly rule) Wanders ME looking for a destiny unkown but never seems to use his sowrd unless to cut vines or branches for shelter. Ran away from home. Lama's name is chickmote(don't ask) __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

04-01-2003, 08:00 PM	#93
Ninquelote Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here. For the time being. Posts: 336	I'm not insulting anyone on a personal level, if you had any sense you'd realize that. __________________ XIAN- for hating Wiccans. MURDERER- for hating vegetarians. PREP- for hating Goths. These are a few of my favourite things, the hypocritical stylings of the most "liberal" groups.

04-01-2003, 08:02 PM	#94
Ninquelote Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here. For the time being. Posts: 336	Nor a 'persinal' one. __________________ XIAN- for hating Wiccans. MURDERER- for hating vegetarians. PREP- for hating Goths. These are a few of my favourite things, the hypocritical stylings of the most "liberal" groups.

04-01-2003, 09:12 PM	#97
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LothlÃ³rien Posts: 3,419	To put in my two cents, I think being able to create a character with a personality, no matter what universe the character lives in, shows a great deal of imagination. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

04-01-2003, 09:46 PM	#98
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I disagree with you there, Nin. They have imagination. The issue isn't lack of imagination, but rather OVER imagination, if you will; not caring about any form of "rules"; even maybe a bit of lack of respect for Tolkien's works. But certainly not a lack of imagination. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

04-01-2003, 10:01 PM	#99
wahine The Original Amazonian Coconut Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Answering no questions, telling no lies. Posts: 753	Dead horse? Where!? sorry, couldn't help it. Not an rpger myself never tried it, just like reading posts that don't make sense...to me anyway. Hi GW! just being friendly to an adversary Ello Elf Girl! __________________ Hem, hem

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