Scenes PJ got right - Page 4

The Gaffer · 12-02-2003, 05:36 AM

LOL. But hey, don't diss the moth!

If you can have talking thrushes with intimate knowledge of dragon anatomy, you can bloody well have messenger moths.

**Nurvingiel** · 12-02-2003, 01:40 PM

Well I may be part of an ancient, long-lived race of moths who spoke the many languages of Middle-earth, but I don't think it has the endurance to get Gwaihir from his eeryie (sp?).

Hm...

Moth: *whew* I'm bushed. I just flew all the way from Orthanc. *spirals dizzily to rest on Gwaihir talon*
Gwaihir: *raises foot* I'm a bird, albeit a large one.
Moth: *pant* Yes, I have a message from Gandalf -
Gwaihir: You are a moth.
Moth: ...
Gwaihir: *eats moth* Wait, he said something about Gandalf and Orthanc. I'll go see how he fares. Maybe I shouldn't have eaten the little fellow. Moths aren't part of my natural diet.

Sending a moth as a messenger to a bird seemed funny to me, though Gwaihir probably doesn't really eat moths. I don't actually have a problem with that scene. (Radagast might though.)

Bacchus · 12-02-2003, 10:54 PM

I think that PJ absolutely nailed Boromir. Moreover, I think that in this particular case, PJ's characterization was more effective than Tolkien's-by which I mean that one has to very carefully read Boromir in the books in order to discern the character qualities that are quite evident in the movies.

**Nurvingiel** · 12-03-2003, 12:12 AM

I enjoyed Boromir in the movies too! I agree, he was right on. I think Boromir was equally successful in both the books and the movies. Books are more subtle than movies, because of the nature of the media. It makes sense that you should have to 'read into it' to understand a subtle and complex character like Boromir.

Finrod Felagund · 12-04-2003, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Elfhelm
I wouldn't take any scene in the movie for granite. I have been advised not to interpret Tolkien in a metamorphical way. But I do object to excessive sedimentality in the Arwen scene.

LOL! I get it...you do have a sense of humour. I laugh...hahahaha!

And in regards to Boromir...I think Sean Bean was exactly what was needed...he was brilliant and I loved him in this role!

mithrand1r · 12-04-2003, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Finrod Felagund
As for Aragorn's attraction to the upright maiden Eowyn, (Miranda Otto) it's immediately understandable. She obviously posesses the only soap and shampoo in the entire kingdom of Rohan. It's tickling to see a film where every horse is better groomed than every human—Gandalf excepted (but, then, he's whiter than white). ~Alan Dean Foster

This is a funny quote.

I wondered about that myself. (not so much about the horses, but why everyone from Rohan appeared so grimey.)

I think that PJ&co did a good job with the opening part that had galadriel talking. (I would have prefered to show this during the council of elrond, but the scene itself was done well)

**Nurvingiel** · 12-04-2003, 04:03 PM

You try not to be grimy without any plumbing! Besides, Aragorn is still grimier.

It makes sense anyway. These guys live a tough, midieval type lifestyle. They don't get to have a shower every day, though I'm sure they all have soap of some form. Except that slimeball Grima Wormtongue.

Lotesse · 09-05-2005, 11:41 PM

And Grima Wormtongue was actually one of the CLEAN ones, too! I also take issue with PJ turning all the Rohirrim into grungy-looking uber-peasants. It was too much. But, this is supposed to be a positive thread, so...

Smeagol-Gollum!Gollum! was wonderfully done. He's the bomb; I adore Smeagol, and he's almost exactly like I'd pictured him from the book.

I bumped this thread, curious to see what others think...

Rosie Gamgee · 09-06-2005, 06:11 PM

What scene did PJ get right? *wracks memory*... I really liked the bit in Moria when Gandy read from the Book of Marzubel (spl). That was pretty well done, that one bit. Also, the battle on Amon Hen and Boromir's death scene. I really liked the way they were rendered, with the possible exception of that sissy Uruk Hai (Lurtz) with his rediculous half-ponytail, dragging the sword into his own vitals. Ick.

Curubethion · 09-06-2005, 08:31 PM

Oh, man was that Gollum-Smeagol scene amazing! Perfectly captured the books.

rohirrim TR · 09-16-2005, 03:40 PM

when lurtz licks the the dagger in FOTR EE initially it grossed me out but it is actually right out of the books, so you know this kind of a random post isn't it,

oh well, rock on

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-17-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Curubethion

Oh, man was that Gollum-Smeagol scene amazing! Perfectly captured the books.

Yeah, I agree. It was a very well written & acted scene.

12-02-2003, 10:54 PM	#63
Bacchus Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Houston TX USA Posts: 245	I think that PJ absolutely nailed Boromir. Moreover, I think that in this particular case, PJ's characterization was more effective than Tolkien's-by which I mean that one has to very carefully read Boromir in the books in order to discern the character qualities that are quite evident in the movies. __________________ Yet neither by wolf, nor by Balrog, nor by Dragon, would Morgoth have achieved his end, but for the treachery of Men. Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes another shape and grows again.

09-05-2005, 11:41 PM	#68
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	And Grima Wormtongue was actually one of the CLEAN ones, too! I also take issue with PJ turning all the Rohirrim into grungy-looking uber-peasants. It was too much. But, this is supposed to be a positive thread, so... Smeagol-Gollum!Gollum! was wonderfully done. He's the bomb; I adore Smeagol, and he's almost exactly like I'd pictured him from the book. I bumped this thread, curious to see what others think... __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-06-2005, 06:11 PM	#69
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	What scene did PJ get right? wracks memory... I really liked the bit in Moria when Gandy read from the Book of Marzubel (spl). That was pretty well done, that one bit. Also, the battle on Amon Hen and Boromir's death scene. I really liked the way they were rendered, with the possible exception of that sissy Uruk Hai (Lurtz) with his rediculous half-ponytail, dragging the sword into his own vitals. Ick. __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!

09-06-2005, 08:31 PM	#70
Curubethion Fenway Ranger, Lord of Red Sox Nation Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: College! Posts: 1,976	Oh, man was that Gollum-Smeagol scene amazing! Perfectly captured the books. __________________ Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan)

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12-02-2003, 05:36 AM	#61
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	LOL. But hey, don't diss the moth! If you can have talking thrushes with intimate knowledge of dragon anatomy, you can bloody well have messenger moths.