If it was possible to cut someone out of the movie, who would it be? - Page 4

Aewionen · 02-15-2004, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by Lalaith_Elf

And I don't like what they did to the end. BRING BACK SARUMAN AND THE SCOURING OF THE SHIRE!!!!!!!!!

YES!!!!!! I was so mad when I saw that Saruman wasn't there!

Cut Eowyn? Why? Without her, Legolas would most likely kill the Witch King. (heaven forbid!) But then again he is a man...at least Arwen didn't do it! And who would marry Faramir? Would Grima be going after Arwen or......

Eomer

Merry also wouldn't meet up with Pippin. Iboen, Arwen fancied Aragorn too.....

I would probably say......the that random elf guy.....(you can't cut anymore out!please! except maybe Arwen in FotR)

Aragorn_iz_cool · 02-16-2004, 11:21 AM

The dead. If done right, the movie didn't need to show them, just show the Gray Company (who should have been their

) and somehow show that invisible people are walking behind them. Then have those guys from Lebbinin (bad spelling, I know) come to the Pelinor like in the book. Having the dead kill everyone easily was so anti-climactic.

Lalaith_Elf · 02-16-2004, 11:26 AM

I think that they needed to include the dead, but I agree that they did it wrong. The Grey Company should have been with them, but I can understand why they cut them. It would have been to much hassle to introduce new characters, and maybe too confusing to those who have never touched the books. Also they should have changed the colour of the dead. I forgot where I read it, but I'm sure they shouldn't be bright green!! And it did seem somewhat anti-climatic. Again they probably did it to keep the right pace of the movie, but in my mind the Dead didn't just sweep over Sauron's Army killing them instantly (or what seemed like instanly).

ethuiliel · 02-16-2004, 01:27 PM

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And I would definitely cut the pink sponge-head orc!

How could I forget him?

If I had to choose between cutting that orc and cutting Lurtz, I would definetly cut him.

Mrs Maggot · 02-17-2004, 12:11 AM

Well i suppose you could use his head to wipe the floor with…

Last Child of Ungoliant · 02-26-2004, 08:52 PM

sorry,
i don't think anyone should have been cut,
they were all characters which helped the plot along in some way, and people like tom bombadil, Radagast the Brown, Glorfindel and Gildor, to name but a few, are sorely missed

**Nurvingiel** · 02-26-2004, 09:00 PM

Sadly, even Arwen shouldn't be cut.

But we could do away with Lurtz or another made-up character as ethuiliel suggested.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 02-26-2004, 09:02 PM

i am speaking only of those characters that appear in the books...

chrys

**Nurvingiel** · 02-27-2004, 04:07 AM

Oh, sorry Chrys. In that case, I vote for Gothmog (aka sponge head orc). However much I dislike Arwen's portayal in the movie, her presence is important (but not at that certain infamous scene that will not be named.

)

b.banner · 02-27-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by gimli7410
frodo. i hated that guy. actually arwen and celeborn they were both pretty pointless

that would be stupid because he is the one who destroys the ring! i would have to say arwen

b.banner · 02-27-2004, 06:10 PM

i cant forget denethor

Willow Oran · 02-27-2004, 09:17 PM

Do you realize just how many characters were cut from the story in making the movies? There are enough cut characters to create a sizable army, and since most of the characters who were cut are among the more elite characters from Middle Earth it would be a really effective army too. I think they should have left characters in the scenes they were supposed to be in, and not added un-nessecary characters where they weren't needed. But really, if they cut any other character who was originally in the story it would leave some definite gaps in the plot line.

Twista · 02-29-2004, 01:59 PM

Not someone, a group. The whole Warg scene in TTT. Annoyed me greatly.

Telcontar · 03-03-2004, 02:05 AM

NOBODY!!!

They already cut out enough characters as it already was.

Lalaith_Elf · 03-03-2004, 01:12 PM

I know this is a little off-topic... but the other day I was looking for a potato to make chips and the one I pulled out of the bag looked exactly like the sponge headed orc.... I sat for about 10 minutes with my pirate DVD on pause comparing the two... again he should have definatly been cut out!

Mrs Maggot · 03-04-2004, 03:57 AM

I wonder if he's related to Mr potato Head from toy Story…

Nazgul King Squirrel · 03-04-2004, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by Telcontar
NOBODY!!!

They already cut out enough characters as it already was.

Well then, cut PJ

Lalaith_Elf · 03-04-2004, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Mrs Maggot
I wonder if he's related to Mr potato Head from toy Story…

I think that it's quite possibe that he is....

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Well then, cut PJ

Good idea.

b.banner · 03-04-2004, 06:23 PM

it wouldnt be good to cut out anybody actually .accept the made up characters like lurtz spongehead orc and the other ones.

Last Child of Ungoliant · 03-04-2004, 07:08 PM

'Spongehead Orc'

AKA Gothmog, the lieutenant of Minas Morgul
isn't actualy a made up character
he is in the books, although hes mentioned only once, as rallying troops after the fall of the witch king, BUT he isnt referred to as an orc in the books, tolkien doesn't specify what race he is, although most people believe he was a Black Numenorean, like the Mouth of Sauron (who i was extremely disappointed not to see in the film

)

02-16-2004, 11:26 AM	#63
Lalaith_Elf Her Infernal Majesty Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,188	I think that they needed to include the dead, but I agree that they did it wrong. The Grey Company should have been with them, but I can understand why they cut them. It would have been to much hassle to introduce new characters, and maybe too confusing to those who have never touched the books. Also they should have changed the colour of the dead. I forgot where I read it, but I'm sure they shouldn't be bright green!! And it did seem somewhat anti-climatic. Again they probably did it to keep the right pace of the movie, but in my mind the Dead didn't just sweep over Sauron's Army killing them instantly (or what seemed like instanly). __________________ "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

02-17-2004, 12:11 AM	#65
Mrs Maggot Enting Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Shire…Ok, western Sydney … & proud of it Posts: 85	Well i suppose you could use his head to wipe the floor with… __________________ Anyone looking for some mushrooms?

02-27-2004, 06:10 PM	#71
b.banner Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Trying to keep a hold on my temper so I don't turn into a big green guy. Posts: 572	i cant forget denethor __________________ "We are going to tickle some Aes Sedai under the chin, rescue a mule, and put a snip-nosed girl on the Lion Throne. Oh, yes. That's Aviendha. Don't look at her cross-wise or she'll try to cut your throat and probably slit her own by mistake."-Mat Cauthon from Wheel of Time "Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...."-Dr. Bruce Banner HULK BATMAN THE FLASH

02-27-2004, 09:17 PM	#72
Willow Oran Deus Ex Machina Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,951	Do you realize just how many characters were cut from the story in making the movies? There are enough cut characters to create a sizable army, and since most of the characters who were cut are among the more elite characters from Middle Earth it would be a really effective army too. I think they should have left characters in the scenes they were supposed to be in, and not added un-nessecary characters where they weren't needed. But really, if they cut any other character who was originally in the story it would leave some definite gaps in the plot line. __________________ "5. Plain Rings with RUNES on the inside. Avoid these like the PLAGUE. -Diana Wynne Jones Tough Guide To FantasyLand ...it's not much of a show if somebody doesn't suffer, and preferably at length. Suffering is beautiful in any case, and so is anguish; but as for loathing, and bitterness... I don't think they belong on the stage at all. - Isabella, I Gelosi

02-29-2004, 01:59 PM	#73
Twista Orodruin's Flame Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kananaskis, AB Posts: 1,194	Not someone, a group. The whole Warg scene in TTT. Annoyed me greatly. __________________ Council of Entmoot - Foreign Affairs Minister - 2004-05 Visit the Ye Olde Avatar Shop and The New One Dont tell me what I cannot do Two men are on a Island, they both see a "monster", one sees a bright light, and the other sees a dark cloud My name bares no reference to the music artist.

02-16-2004, 11:21 AM	#62
Aragorn_iz_cool Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 119	The dead. If done right, the movie didn't need to show them, just show the Gray Company (who should have been their ) and somehow show that invisible people are walking behind them. Then have those guys from Lebbinin (bad spelling, I know) come to the Pelinor like in the book. Having the dead kill everyone easily was so anti-climactic.

02-26-2004, 08:52 PM	#66
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	sorry, i don't think anyone should have been cut, they were all characters which helped the plot along in some way, and people like tom bombadil, Radagast the Brown, Glorfindel and Gildor, to name but a few, are sorely missed

02-26-2004, 09:02 PM	#68
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	i am speaking only of those characters that appear in the books... chrys

03-03-2004, 02:05 AM	#74
Telcontar Enting Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix Posts: 53	NOBODY!!! They already cut out enough characters as it already was. __________________ "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." - Gandalf the Grey (FOTR) "Revenge is a dish best served cold." - Old Kingdom Proverb Kill Bill Volume 1)

03-03-2004, 01:12 PM	#75
Lalaith_Elf Her Infernal Majesty Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,188	I know this is a little off-topic... but the other day I was looking for a potato to make chips and the one I pulled out of the bag looked exactly like the sponge headed orc.... I sat for about 10 minutes with my pirate DVD on pause comparing the two... again he should have definatly been cut out! __________________ "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

03-04-2004, 03:57 AM	#76
Mrs Maggot Enting Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Shire…Ok, western Sydney … & proud of it Posts: 85	I wonder if he's related to Mr potato Head from toy Story… __________________ Anyone looking for some mushrooms?

03-04-2004, 06:23 PM	#79
b.banner Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Trying to keep a hold on my temper so I don't turn into a big green guy. Posts: 572	it wouldnt be good to cut out anybody actually .accept the made up characters like lurtz spongehead orc and the other ones. __________________ "We are going to tickle some Aes Sedai under the chin, rescue a mule, and put a snip-nosed girl on the Lion Throne. Oh, yes. That's Aviendha. Don't look at her cross-wise or she'll try to cut your throat and probably slit her own by mistake."-Mat Cauthon from Wheel of Time "Don't make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...."-Dr. Bruce Banner HULK BATMAN THE FLASH

03-04-2004, 07:08 PM	#80
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	'Spongehead Orc' AKA Gothmog, the lieutenant of Minas Morgul isn't actualy a made up character he is in the books, although hes mentioned only once, as rallying troops after the fall of the witch king, BUT he isnt referred to as an orc in the books, tolkien doesn't specify what race he is, although most people believe he was a Black Numenorean, like the Mouth of Sauron (who i was extremely disappointed not to see in the film )

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