Two towers in 4 mouths - Page 4

BeardofPants · 08-11-2002, 05:22 PM

I am not sure, but as I mentioned in the above post, in the movie, it is rumoured that it will happen in the end of TTT to balance out TTT & ROTK better (as there is no scouring.)

BeardofPants · 08-11-2002, 05:23 PM

Whoops, I guess that would be my post on the previous page...

Cirdan · 08-11-2002, 05:37 PM

no scouring... more GGRR!!

Well, the movies are still nice eye candy. I predict the final complete boxed set will run $200 US. There should be quite a bit "on the cutting room floor" by the release of RotK.

BeardofPants · 08-11-2002, 07:33 PM

Yes well, having succumbed to renting the DVD, (I'm such a sheep

) I'll have to agree with you there... some very good eye candy. Gimli aside.

(Oh, and the scenery is pretty good too. Soundtrack? Nergh...)

Entlover · 08-11-2002, 07:57 PM

I've resigned myself to being satisfied with the next two if they stay close to the general idea . . .yes, I know it's capitulation, but it's the main ideas that matter, after all. Frodo and Sam's difficult journey through the wasteland, Shelob's lair, mucho battles with or without Elves, Nazgul attacks and Merry and Eowyn killling the Witchking, dropping the ring in the cracks. Oh, and Ents. I'll be happy with that.

Starr Polish · 08-11-2002, 08:02 PM

I may actually get to see it before November! My mother is contemplating getting a DVD player soon.

Cirdan · 08-11-2002, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Yes well, having succumbed to renting the DVD, (I'm such a sheep ) I'll have to agree with you there... some very good eye candy. Gimli aside. (Oh, and the scenery is pretty good too. Soundtrack? Nergh...)

Yes the sound track is very uneven. Some places it is very effective and other places it sounded like some other movie. I think some of the battle scene music was taken directly from "Braveheart". Overall I like it, though. Enough to buy it? Maybe a long time from now when it is in clearance.

Definitely a ggod time to buy a player. They are very inexpensive and the retail market is soft, so if you've got the cash...

cassiopeia · 08-11-2002, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Sween:gandald should take him on again after hes offred him the chance to aid them to destroy Sauron of course got to offer him his chance of redemption.

If I remember right, Saruman was offered redemption, but declined.

I am sure the Saruman will be spiked at the end of TTT. Too much will be happening in the ROTK - Pelannor fields, Shelob, destruction of the ring.

Sween · 08-12-2002, 06:06 AM

Saurman is offred his chance to aid them in the book and he does decline. This should also happen in the movie. But been a movie lose ends have to be tied up and seeing as the scourging is out Sauraman will die in this one

i just think that Gandalf should do the killing having him pushed out the window by wormingtonge wont work for a few reasons a) wormingtongs life has not been ruined yet so he wont be that mad at his master b) sauarmans powers will still exist ( i cannot see Gandalf taking them away like in the book breaking his staff as if its that easy to do away with a mairs powers) this all ties up with my theory that Gandalf and co will march upon isengard with the ents.

cassiopeia · 08-12-2002, 09:54 PM

I don't think Gandalf should do the killing. From what he told Frodo in Moria about Bilbo having pity on Gollum, in would be a contraction of him to then go and kill Saruman. By this time Gandalf would become the white and so be more powerful than Saruman. Falling on a spike will kill Saruman, even if he is powerful. I would guess that in the movie Wormtongue's life would be already horrible and he would hate Saruman. I am sure in the book that Wormtongue hated Saruman for a long time.

Araihc · 08-13-2002, 09:19 AM

... i don't know if you all heard... there is a letter of support to Jackson, up for signing, at www.dodgeandassociates.com/bqlotr/ (had to go check

)

the idea is to support Jackson's vision of the film... to support his telling the story so that it makes sense. if he is forced to cut too much, and the story doesn't make sense, no one profits... and the viewers will lose out, too. he has put two 3 hour versions together... and THEN WALKED AWAY because they didn't work... and this is with Newline pushing to get the films in the can... so i have a tendency to think that the film really didn't work at that length! it really bugs me to think that the movie could be cut short... and end up like 'Dune'...

...i noticed that the petition is only up this week...

i should probably start a new thread for this...

Rei · 08-13-2002, 04:29 PM

I just signed it!

I could sit through a 4 hour movie, just so long as it was as good as the first one!

Cirdan · 08-13-2002, 05:06 PM

I signed it too. I would ask for an intermission at the two hour mark, at least. Would you pay more if it was longer, in order to appral the theater owners, or should they be glad for a guaranteed hit?

BeardofPants · 08-13-2002, 05:39 PM

It's not economy that holds us back, it's short attention spans. Dammit, if people can sit through the monster that is Ben Hur, then they can sit through a mere four hour epic. If it is well done, then people will sit through it.

Entlover · 08-13-2002, 07:26 PM

I signed it . . .this is the first I'd heard of the problem, that's the trouble with marketing a product before it's finished.
Everyone should sign it in case PJ needs support to get his version out.

samwiselvr2008 · 08-13-2002, 08:37 PM

I sighned it! I think that I would anjoy it to be 4 hours long, the problem is TIME, and as BoP said, my friends atention spans, ofcourse, I would be glude to the screen, I remeber leaving the theater after TFOTR complaning that the movie was to short.

Entlover · 08-13-2002, 10:36 PM

You don't suppose he'd walk out on it, do you? He can't, he has a contract to provide 2 more movies, right? There would be riots.

On a related subject, does anyone know how he managed to film LotR when it's surely copyrighted by the Tolkien estate? He said he's had no contact with the Tolkien family; so did they sell the movie rights to him, sight unseen?

joe · 08-13-2002, 10:59 PM

What is so exciting on the film(s)? Read the books guys, READ THE BOOKS!!!

BeardofPants · 08-13-2002, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joe
What is so exciting on the film(s)?

Yes!! Someone who agrees with me!

Entlover · 08-14-2002, 02:33 AM

Have read the books, many times in many years. And if
I had to give up one or the other, of course I'd keep the books. But after all these years it's neat to see it come to life.

08-11-2002, 05:22 PM	#61
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	I am not sure, but as I mentioned in the above post, in the movie, it is rumoured that it will happen in the end of TTT to balance out TTT & ROTK better (as there is no scouring.) __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-11-2002, 05:23 PM	#62
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Whoops, I guess that would be my post on the previous page... __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-11-2002, 05:37 PM	#63
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	no scouring... more GGRR!! Well, the movies are still nice eye candy. I predict the final complete boxed set will run $200 US. There should be quite a bit "on the cutting room floor" by the release of RotK. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary Last edited by Cirdan : 08-11-2002 at 06:00 PM.

08-11-2002, 07:33 PM	#64
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Yes well, having succumbed to renting the DVD, (I'm such a sheep ) I'll have to agree with you there... some very good eye candy. Gimli aside. (Oh, and the scenery is pretty good too. Soundtrack? Nergh...) __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-11-2002, 08:02 PM	#66
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I may actually get to see it before November! My mother is contemplating getting a DVD player soon. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

08-11-2002, 07:57 PM	#65
Entlover Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 463	I've resigned myself to being satisfied with the next two if they stay close to the general idea . . .yes, I know it's capitulation, but it's the main ideas that matter, after all. Frodo and Sam's difficult journey through the wasteland, Shelob's lair, mucho battles with or without Elves, Nazgul attacks and Merry and Eowyn killling the Witchking, dropping the ring in the cracks. Oh, and Ents. I'll be happy with that.

08-12-2002, 06:06 AM	#69
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Saurman is offred his chance to aid them in the book and he does decline. This should also happen in the movie. But been a movie lose ends have to be tied up and seeing as the scourging is out Sauraman will die in this one i just think that Gandalf should do the killing having him pushed out the window by wormingtonge wont work for a few reasons a) wormingtongs life has not been ruined yet so he wont be that mad at his master b) sauarmans powers will still exist ( i cannot see Gandalf taking them away like in the book breaking his staff as if its that easy to do away with a mairs powers) this all ties up with my theory that Gandalf and co will march upon isengard with the ents. __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

08-12-2002, 09:54 PM	#70
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I don't think Gandalf should do the killing. From what he told Frodo in Moria about Bilbo having pity on Gollum, in would be a contraction of him to then go and kill Saruman. By this time Gandalf would become the white and so be more powerful than Saruman. Falling on a spike will kill Saruman, even if he is powerful. I would guess that in the movie Wormtongue's life would be already horrible and he would hate Saruman. I am sure in the book that Wormtongue hated Saruman for a long time. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

08-13-2002, 09:19 AM	#71
Araihc Sapling Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10	... i don't know if you all heard... there is a letter of support to Jackson, up for signing, at www.dodgeandassociates.com/bqlotr/ (had to go check ) the idea is to support Jackson's vision of the film... to support his telling the story so that it makes sense. if he is forced to cut too much, and the story doesn't make sense, no one profits... and the viewers will lose out, too. he has put two 3 hour versions together... and THEN WALKED AWAY because they didn't work... and this is with Newline pushing to get the films in the can... so i have a tendency to think that the film really didn't work at that length! it really bugs me to think that the movie could be cut short... and end up like 'Dune'... ...i noticed that the petition is only up this week... i should probably start a new thread for this... __________________ "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has" -M.Mead-

08-13-2002, 04:29 PM	#72
Rei Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hades....it's a tough job but someone's gotta do it Posts: 182	I just signed it! I could sit through a 4 hour movie, just so long as it was as good as the first one! __________________ ______________________________ ------------------------------------------------ Seek for the Sword that was broken: In Imladris it dwells; There shall be counsels taken Stronger than Morgul-spells. There shall be shown a token That doom is near at hand For Isildur's Bane shall waken, And the Halfling forth shall stand. ______________________________ ------------------------------------------------ Whoo-hooo!!! I'm an Elven Warrior!!!!!

08-13-2002, 05:06 PM	#73
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	I signed it too. I would ask for an intermission at the two hour mark, at least. Would you pay more if it was longer, in order to appral the theater owners, or should they be glad for a guaranteed hit? __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

08-13-2002, 05:39 PM	#74
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	It's not economy that holds us back, it's short attention spans. Dammit, if people can sit through the monster that is Ben Hur, then they can sit through a mere four hour epic. If it is well done, then people will sit through it. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

08-13-2002, 07:26 PM	#75
Entlover Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 463	I signed it . . .this is the first I'd heard of the problem, that's the trouble with marketing a product before it's finished. Everyone should sign it in case PJ needs support to get his version out.

08-13-2002, 08:37 PM	#76
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	I sighned it! I think that I would anjoy it to be 4 hours long, the problem is TIME, and as BoP said, my friends atention spans, ofcourse, I would be glude to the screen, I remeber leaving the theater after TFOTR complaning that the movie was to short. __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

08-13-2002, 10:36 PM	#77
Entlover Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 463	You don't suppose he'd walk out on it, do you? He can't, he has a contract to provide 2 more movies, right? There would be riots. On a related subject, does anyone know how he managed to film LotR when it's surely copyrighted by the Tolkien estate? He said he's had no contact with the Tolkien family; so did they sell the movie rights to him, sight unseen?

08-13-2002, 10:59 PM	#78
joe Sapling Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: germany Posts: 7	Read the books What is so exciting on the film(s)? Read the books guys, READ THE BOOKS!!!

08-14-2002, 02:33 AM	#80
Entlover Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 463	Have read the books, many times in many years. And if I had to give up one or the other, of course I'd keep the books. But after all these years it's neat to see it come to life.

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