The decline of entmoot - Page 4

***Earniel*** · 05-23-2002, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snowdog
Lets enjoy them for what they are today and work to better them in any way we can.

*raises glas of miruvor* I'll drink to that!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-24-2002, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eärniel

*raises glas of miruvor* I'll drink to that!

As will I!

cassiopeia · 05-24-2002, 05:05 AM

I have decided to refrain myself from talking about Viggo and Elijah's "hotness". I would like to see more discussions in the book forum. Maybe I should start a discussion...

ecto2002 · 05-24-2002, 03:59 PM

In the week or so that I have been on Entmoot I have seen no decline...

Entmoot needs us newbies - why getting rid of us would be like taking Merry and Pippen out of Lord of the Rings.

well I've said my bit - waavvveeee (and taking out the merry Bombadil for that matter)

dream wanderer · 05-24-2002, 05:41 PM

I acended from lurkdom today...

For the record I might be a newbie here but am not a newbie to Tolkien.

I am also on another popular Tolkien board...have been there for two years.

I think I can see where some of the oldbies here are talking about...we are seeing it on Tolkien boards all over the internet.

After the movies a definite shift took place. Movie people in love with Orlando/Liv/Viggo fill in the blank showed up. Good people...wrote some good posts...they were just crazy in love with Orlando/Liv/Viggo/ fill in the blank ....and the population exploded and things started to change.

I lost track of regular posters...thought they had left and only to find out there were still there...just posting in threads that I didn't get around to read. A crisis might happen on one of the fan worship threads...we in the general discussion thread knew nothing about it. In the old days we would rush over just to see what was happening and to add our two cents worth. Now we don't do that because the board has grown so.

But we knew it would happen. We thought we were ready for it but we were not. So its kind of sad...to see the end of the 'old board'...but every ending is a new begining....so enjoy your 'new' board.

dream wanderer

FrodoFriend · 05-24-2002, 06:13 PM

I don't think Entmoot has declined since I've been here - but then, I don't think there are levels of fan either. Face it, we're all just crazy freaks when it comes down to it. Different types of crazy, but all crazy.

Pssst . . . Elijah's hot!!

Starr Polish · 05-24-2002, 11:55 PM

Though I could be considered a relative newbie to both the board and Tolkien, I have seen a bit of a decline in this board, but that is no reason to completely remove oneself from it.

And the movie does not bring in just 'movie-only', boy crazy (or zenarwen crazy, depending) teenage fans who still say "Whatever" use "Like" as every other word in the sentence.

I saw the movie first. The movie is what introduced me to how incredible Tolkien is. I read all three books, the first in about four days, I think. I've only had a chance to read them once, but this is because of limited resources. I've read most of the Silmarillionm, and I plan on reading all of his works. I also think the books were better.

Even though some annoying characters have joined this board, and other just plain obnoxious ones, there are still a multitude of great people and disussions here on Entmoot, in the Tolkien forums. Perhaps we should not try to start new topics, but revive some of the better, older ones.
(sorry about the infected way of writing, I'm in a 'big word' mood)

cassiopeia · 05-25-2002, 12:15 AM

If we had a quiz we could ask "Which elf bore Frodo on a horse to Rivendell?" and if someone answered Arwen they could be banned for life.

Cirdan · 05-25-2002, 01:10 AM

Glorfindel! Glorfindel! Glorfindel!

Starr Polish, your an elf lord even of you don't qualify by measure of the Dec. 19 date. Have you read the hobbit? It must be read to fully appreciate Bilbo.

Yes, it isn't worth removing one's self from it. (see previous post)

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-25-2002, 01:34 AM

So will I be banned for not having read The Hobbit?

afro-elf · 05-25-2002, 01:39 AM

glorfindel who's he

you mean it wasn't arwen

BeardofPants · 05-25-2002, 01:48 AM

Glorfindel? Who's he? I thought it was Gil-gilad?

Cirdan · 05-25-2002, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eruviel Greenleaf
So will I be banned for not having read The Hobbit?

I'm pure evil and they haven't banned me yet. EG, I meant it's good is all. I is powerless in moot, i is.......

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-25-2002, 02:34 AM

I know, I know

I will read it, I just am currently in the middle of the Silmarillion, so. . .

Comic Book Guy · 05-25-2002, 08:12 AM

Anybody who joined after December 19 cannot appreciate the full extent of Entmoot's decline, so I personally cannot take your views seriously. Snowdog summed up the situation nicely, and that's because he was around before the Movie was released.

Starr Polish · 05-25-2002, 11:40 AM

Yes, I have read The Hobbit. I read it before the movie, and I hated it (ducks random flying objects). It was part of the reason I didn't read the other books until after I saw the movie. I have since re-read The Hobbit...it's not my favorite book, but I don't hate it anymore.

And CBG, I'm sorry you can't take my opinion seriously. I've read through older messages and a few of the archives. I know that is not the same thing, but believe I have a pretty good idea of this 'decline'.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 05-25-2002, 11:20 PM

CBG, Starr Polish has a point, and I think some of us can sort of see the 'decline' even if we weren't around before Dec. 19th.

Cirdan · 05-26-2002, 01:53 AM

One could go through the archives and chronicle each post as to it's worthiness. Develop a scoring system, maybe weighted by the significance of the topic. Then a 3d graph of the topography of the moot could by scientifically evaluated in an objective and meritocratic forum.

BeardofPants · 05-26-2002, 02:05 AM

... Then construct a scatter graph and work out the margin of error.

Laurelyn · 05-26-2002, 12:12 PM

I joined after Dec. 19th, you know. And i have seen some decline/evolution too. Not the full extent of it, that's true, but hey, I have seen enough to say something.
But some of you who were around when I was a newbie; you'll remeber this. I didn't know a thing when I joined the Moot. I asked stupid, obvious questions and so on, and I'm sure that Cbg hated me for all I was worth. I had read the Lord of the Rings in the third and fourth grade and hadn't really gotten the full picture. I'd read it again a few more times, but all the important stuff kinda sailed over my head. I saw the movie and it inspired me to read the books again. Now older, I could much better appreciate Tolkien's work, and I Wanted to learn more.

Now, months later, I irritate my schoolmates for talking in Quenya 30% of the time. FRODO LIVES! never manages to find it way off the board for long. I owe much of this to Entmoot, actually. HEre's one Newbie who changed; and Entmoot is different for me and all the others who showed up after the movie. AM I sorry I'm here? No. Are you sorry I'm here? Well, that's for you to answer. I'd like to know, actually, whether or not you are, if you care to tell.

05-24-2002, 05:05 AM	#63
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I have decided to refrain myself from talking about Viggo and Elijah's "hotness". I would like to see more discussions in the book forum. Maybe I should start a discussion... __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

05-24-2002, 03:59 PM	#64
ecto2002 Sapling Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 4	Decline In the week or so that I have been on Entmoot I have seen no decline... Entmoot needs us newbies - why getting rid of us would be like taking Merry and Pippen out of Lord of the Rings. well I've said my bit - waavvveeee (and taking out the merry Bombadil for that matter)

05-24-2002, 05:41 PM	#65
dream wanderer Sapling Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Va USA Posts: 6	I acended from lurkdom today... For the record I might be a newbie here but am not a newbie to Tolkien. I am also on another popular Tolkien board...have been there for two years. I think I can see where some of the oldbies here are talking about...we are seeing it on Tolkien boards all over the internet. After the movies a definite shift took place. Movie people in love with Orlando/Liv/Viggo fill in the blank showed up. Good people...wrote some good posts...they were just crazy in love with Orlando/Liv/Viggo/ fill in the blank ....and the population exploded and things started to change. I lost track of regular posters...thought they had left and only to find out there were still there...just posting in threads that I didn't get around to read. A crisis might happen on one of the fan worship threads...we in the general discussion thread knew nothing about it. In the old days we would rush over just to see what was happening and to add our two cents worth. Now we don't do that because the board has grown so. But we knew it would happen. We thought we were ready for it but we were not. So its kind of sad...to see the end of the 'old board'...but every ending is a new begining....so enjoy your 'new' board. dream wanderer __________________ Its never to late to have a happy childhood.

05-24-2002, 06:13 PM	#66
FrodoFriend Halfwitted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Eryn Vorn Posts: 1,659	I don't think Entmoot has declined since I've been here - but then, I don't think there are levels of fan either. Face it, we're all just crazy freaks when it comes down to it. Different types of crazy, but all crazy. Pssst . . . Elijah's hot!! __________________ Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger! The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18. The Fellowship of the Message Board Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears

05-24-2002, 11:55 PM	#67
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Though I could be considered a relative newbie to both the board and Tolkien, I have seen a bit of a decline in this board, but that is no reason to completely remove oneself from it. And the movie does not bring in just 'movie-only', boy crazy (or zenarwen crazy, depending) teenage fans who still say "Whatever" use "Like" as every other word in the sentence. I saw the movie first. The movie is what introduced me to how incredible Tolkien is. I read all three books, the first in about four days, I think. I've only had a chance to read them once, but this is because of limited resources. I've read most of the Silmarillionm, and I plan on reading all of his works. I also think the books were better. Even though some annoying characters have joined this board, and other just plain obnoxious ones, there are still a multitude of great people and disussions here on Entmoot, in the Tolkien forums. Perhaps we should not try to start new topics, but revive some of the better, older ones. (sorry about the infected way of writing, I'm in a 'big word' mood) __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

05-25-2002, 12:15 AM	#68
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	If we had a quiz we could ask "Which elf bore Frodo on a horse to Rivendell?" and if someone answered Arwen they could be banned for life. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

05-25-2002, 01:10 AM	#69
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	Glorfindel! Glorfindel! Glorfindel! Starr Polish, your an elf lord even of you don't qualify by measure of the Dec. 19 date. Have you read the hobbit? It must be read to fully appreciate Bilbo. Yes, it isn't worth removing one's self from it. (see previous post) __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

05-25-2002, 01:34 AM	#70
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	So will I be banned for not having read The Hobbit? __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

05-25-2002, 01:39 AM	#71
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	glorfindel who's he you mean it wasn't arwen __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

05-25-2002, 01:48 AM	#72
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	Glorfindel? Who's he? I thought it was Gil-gilad? __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

05-25-2002, 02:34 AM	#74
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	I know, I know I will read it, I just am currently in the middle of the Silmarillion, so. . . __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

05-25-2002, 08:12 AM	#75
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	Anybody who joined after December 19 cannot appreciate the full extent of Entmoot's decline, so I personally cannot take your views seriously. Snowdog summed up the situation nicely, and that's because he was around before the Movie was released.

05-25-2002, 11:40 AM	#76
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Yes, I have read The Hobbit. I read it before the movie, and I hated it (ducks random flying objects). It was part of the reason I didn't read the other books until after I saw the movie. I have since re-read The Hobbit...it's not my favorite book, but I don't hate it anymore. And CBG, I'm sorry you can't take my opinion seriously. I've read through older messages and a few of the archives. I know that is not the same thing, but believe I have a pretty good idea of this 'decline'. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

05-25-2002, 11:20 PM	#77
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	CBG, Starr Polish has a point, and I think some of us can sort of see the 'decline' even if we weren't around before Dec. 19th. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

05-26-2002, 01:53 AM	#78
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	One could go through the archives and chronicle each post as to it's worthiness. Develop a scoring system, maybe weighted by the significance of the topic. Then a 3d graph of the topography of the moot could by scientifically evaluated in an objective and meritocratic forum. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

05-26-2002, 02:05 AM	#79
BeardofPants the Shrike Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA <3 Posts: 10,647	... Then construct a scatter graph and work out the margin of error. __________________ "Binary solo! 0000001! 00000011! 0000001! 00000011!" ~ The Humans are Dead, Flight of the Conchords

05-26-2002, 12:12 PM	#80
Laurelyn Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Valinor, right next to Telperion . . . what did you expect, Michigan? Posts: 1,315	I joined after Dec. 19th, you know. And i have seen some decline/evolution too. Not the full extent of it, that's true, but hey, I have seen enough to say something. But some of you who were around when I was a newbie; you'll remeber this. I didn't know a thing when I joined the Moot. I asked stupid, obvious questions and so on, and I'm sure that Cbg hated me for all I was worth. I had read the Lord of the Rings in the third and fourth grade and hadn't really gotten the full picture. I'd read it again a few more times, but all the important stuff kinda sailed over my head. I saw the movie and it inspired me to read the books again. Now older, I could much better appreciate Tolkien's work, and I Wanted to learn more. Now, months later, I irritate my schoolmates for talking in Quenya 30% of the time. FRODO LIVES! never manages to find it way off the board for long. I owe much of this to Entmoot, actually. HEre's one Newbie who changed; and Entmoot is different for me and all the others who showed up after the movie. AM I sorry I'm here? No. Are you sorry I'm here? Well, that's for you to answer. I'd like to know, actually, whether or not you are, if you care to tell. __________________ The Third Age of Entmoot has begun. Angel of music, guide and guardian! Grant to me your glory! The country I eat and spend the day in is by no means the country I sleep and dream in. Define patriotism. Hold the boat, you spastic monkey! ~ Elenka

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