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Old 11-21-2003, 09:52 PM   #41
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Tower guards look like thy've got great white ears, in stead of elegant seabird wings
I don't know about the wings. They looked okay to me, and from what i can tell, those helmets were the ceremonial armor, not the regular ones (those we saw pretty plainly in the FOTR prologue) This is the helmet you are talking about, right? http://home.comcast.net/~jedirose1/miscrotk20.jpg Do you think you could scan in the broken evenstar picture in and post it?
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Old 11-27-2003, 06:50 PM   #42
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the book didn't have a picture of the broken evenstar (otherwise i'd frame it.. now that the nasty looking piece is busted) it just says that the evenstar "shatters".. i may be able to scan in the passage if you can't take my word for it, but i'll have to do t later, i've got family over now, and can only get away for small amounts of time..
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:57 PM   #43
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alright then. Who's with me? a convention. we'll get ahold of some of those lovely ME weaspons and use them in various painful ways on PJ. or whoever made these descisions.

and by the way- Spoiler-

cutting scens from the house of healing. damn you to the inner fires of eternal hell, PJ, damn you.

ah well. I suppose that I won't kill PJ. or injur. being as he's done well so far. not great, but failry well. I may send a strongly worded letter though


Or twenty.
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Old 11-27-2003, 10:13 PM   #44
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cutting scens from the house of healing. damn you to the inner fires of eternal hell, PJ, damn you.
I don't see why it would be surprising that he would cut that out. It's not action oriented. I guess he could have changed to action - have a couple of stray orcs come in and then Faramir jumps up and protects Eowym. That is how she falls in love with him adn gets over Aragorn.

This it the scene - 20 orcs storm into the houses of healing. Faramir awakes to see them pawing at Eowyn. He jumps up and stands between them and her. He fights and fends off the 20 orcs single handedly. The camera moves to slow motion - showing Faramir slashing and thrusting at the orcs with his blade. The shot then pans to Eowyn. You see her clasp here hands together abover her heart and let's out a big sigh as if to say "Oh my hero" That's how Jackson does things.
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Old 11-28-2003, 03:29 AM   #45
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alright then. Who's with me? a convention. we'll get ahold of some of those lovely ME weaspons and use them in various painful ways on PJ. or whoever made these descisions.

and by the way- Spoiler-

cutting scens from the house of healing. damn you to the inner fires of eternal hell, PJ, damn you.

ah well. I suppose that I won't kill PJ. or injur. being as he's done well so far. not great, but failry well. I may send a strongly worded letter though


Or twenty.
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You seem more upset that HOH is cut then SOTS. I personally don't mind HOH being cut, but I didn't really expect it to be in there anyways.
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Old 11-28-2003, 08:55 PM   #46
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If you want some "interesting" ROTK spoilers, go here

Anybody want to go and strangle PJ?
I'm sorry, but Frodo sending Sam back home is the stupidest thing PJ has done so far. I fear the ROTK will be nothing more than a big battle on Pelennor Fields.
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Old 11-28-2003, 09:01 PM   #47
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Anybody want to go and strangle PJ?
I'm sorry, but Frodo sending Sam back home is the stupidest thing PJ has done so far. I fear the ROTK will be nothing more than a big battle on Pelennor Fields.
Does this give me permission to continue to strangle PJ? Oh - and to create toliet paper with his face on it.
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Old 11-28-2003, 09:16 PM   #48
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Does this give me permission to continue to strangle PJ? Oh - and to create toliet paper with his face on it.
Of course. Too bad you weren't doing it a few years ago when they were filming.
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Old 11-28-2003, 09:19 PM   #49
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Of course. Too bad you weren't doing it a few years ago when they were filming.
Well - back then I thought the movies were going to be the way jackson was describing them. "oh - I can't change that - the fans would have my head". or "This is a movie by a fan for the fans of Lord of the Rings". If I knew then what I know now - I would have been.
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Old 11-29-2003, 04:18 AM   #50
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Better than I feared. But only 10 minutes of conclusion after the destruction of the Ring seems all too short.
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Old 11-29-2003, 09:54 AM   #51
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Thank you for posting the spoiler link, cassiopeia. That was quite interesting.
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Old 11-30-2003, 04:45 AM   #52
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- and to create toliet paper with his face on it.
Too late.... Although, perhaps your version won't leave vivid-pen marks on my butt...
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Old 11-30-2003, 09:10 PM   #53
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Anybody want to go and strangle PJ?
I'm sorry, but Frodo sending Sam back home is the stupidest thing PJ has done so far. :
I can't tell you how, but I have received the "official" script.

Gollum- Doess master no why filthy fat hobbit stays fatsss?

Sam- Hold on there stinker!

Frodo- quiet Sam, let Gollum speak!

Gollum- Fat hobbit has been eating your share of the filthy elvish foodsss!

Frodo gasps!

Gollum throws Sam a quick smirk

Frodo- Sam how could you!

Sam- Its not true Mr. Frodo! Theres not much left in him but lies and deceipt!

Frodo- Hes been true to his word!

Sam looking heartbroken.

Sam- No Mr. Frodo.

Frodo- Sam, go home.

Sam turns around and slowly walks away with his head down.


A few scenes later.

Shelob is having a tuff time finishing off this little runt.

Frodo's consious while battling with Shelob- I could really use Sams help right now.

Sams is sitting on a rock with a depressed look on his face and he realizes something- What have I done!!!! Gandalf said don't you leave him old Samwise Gamgee.

Sam realizes he needs to help Frodo, gets up and runs through the caves and finds Frodo about to be stung by a giant spider!

Frodo sees Sam and yells- My dear Sam, I'm sorry for sending you home, youve come back just in the nick of time!

Sam seeing mr. Frodo in danger acts quickly. Sam runs and jumps on his back, slides under the spider and sticks his blade up (sword) and the spider sinks right into it.

Sam- that was a close one, right Mr. Frodo.
Sam- Mr. Frodo?

Sam- Frodo???

Sam looks at Frodo and sees that Frodo has been stung!!!

Sam sobs and the audience cries!!!!!! (non tolkein audience!)


Hey it looks like this scene might not be so bad after all! jk
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That is totally ridiculous. Why make it spoiler-proof? It is total fantasy. Someone is pulling our leg. Frodo and Sam may well separate but it sure as hell won't happen that way.
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Old 12-01-2003, 12:54 PM   #55
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I don't see why it would be surprising that he would cut that out. It's not action oriented. I guess he could have changed to action - have a couple of stray orcs come in and then Faramir jumps up and protects Eowym. That is how she falls in love with him adn gets over Aragorn.

This it the scene - 20 orcs storm into the houses of healing. Faramir awakes to see them pawing at Eowyn. He jumps up and stands between them and her. He fights and fends off the 20 orcs single handedly. The camera moves to slow motion - showing Faramir slashing and thrusting at the orcs with his blade. The shot then pans to Eowyn. You see her clasp here hands together abover her heart and let's out a big sigh as if to say "Oh my hero" That's how Jackson does things.
If you want to do the scene right, then why not hand Faramir a chainsaw and be done with it.

I can just picture it now. The hum of the motor. The Howard Shore musical score (or if you prefer Puccini ). The slow motion hacking and slicing of orc limbs, heads, etc. with blood splatter in all directions. After the orcs are dispatched, Eowyn & Faramir embrace and the scene fades to black.

It would be an improvement. (j/k)
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Old 12-01-2003, 06:31 PM   #56
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Does Gollum do what he does in the book on the stairs of Cirth Ungol -- return to find Frodo asleep and then go to caress him, possibly turning good again...before Sam wakes up and catches him?

no
Of course not, that would be too subtle for PJ. And I love that scene too.

Assuming that that guy actually has seen the movie.
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Old 12-01-2003, 06:45 PM   #57
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>>Assuming that that guy actually has seen the movie<<

He's seen the movie. There are far more spoilers than the ones posted . . Marty has an entire thread devoted to it. He saw the movie on Thanksgiving Day and agreed to a Q&A type spoiler thread. He did it last year for The Two Towers too.

Here's the entire thread . . do not go here unless you don't mind being heavily spoiled.



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OMG!
No Faramir & Eowyn romance!
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Old 12-02-2003, 04:22 AM   #59
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No Faramir & Eowyn romance!
So - I see that the number of Jackson haters will be going up. I hope people accept the movies for what they are soon - ACTION movies. I'm sure the hour long Pelenor Fields battle will be great. I'm sure the Army of the Dead will be great. But the sad thing is - there was SO MUCH more to the stories than ACTION SCENES!!!!
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:21 AM   #60
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According to Marty:


How long is the Battle for the Pelennor fields?
Most of the film

Is it longer than Helm''s Deep?

yes


That's certainly what I was fearing.
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