Morgoth Alive??????? - Page 3

Artanis · 01-05-2004, 04:00 PM

I have quoted the Second Prophecy of Mandos a few times before, I can do it again - from HoME 4, the Quenta Noldorinwa:

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Thus spake the prophecy of Mandos, which he declared in Valmar at the judgement of the Gods, and the rumour of it was whispered among all the Elves of the West: when the world is old and the Powers grow weary, then Morgoth shall come back through the Door out of the Timeless Night; and he shall destroy the Sun and the Moon, but Earendel shall come upon him as a white flame and drive him from the airs. Then shall the last battle be gathered on the fields of Valinor. In that day Tulkas shall strive with Melko, and on his right shall stand Fionwe and on his left Turin Turambar, son of Hurin, Conqueror of Fate,(7) and it shall be the black sword of Turin that deals unto Melko his death and final end; and so shall the children of Hurin and all Men be avenged.
Thereafter shall the Silmarils' be recovered out of sea and earth and air; for Earendel shall descend and yield up that flame that he hath had in keeping. Then Feanor shall bear the Three and yield them unto Yavanna Palurien; and she will break them and with their fire rekindle the Two Trees, and a great light shall come forth; and the Mountains of Valinor shall be levelled, so that the light goes out all over the world. In that light the Gods will again grow young, and the Elves awake and all their dead arise, and the purpose of Iluvatar be fulfilled concerning them. But of Men in that day the prophecy speaks not, save of Turin only, and him it names among the Gods.'

Turgon_Turambar · 01-06-2004, 01:25 PM

I dont see aragorns name in the prophecy..........shows how goosd he is dont it

Wayfarer · 01-06-2004, 01:51 PM

Not really, no.

Falagar · 01-06-2004, 02:03 PM

I believe it's said somewhere in Morgoth's Ring that the Last Battle had been abandoned.

Artanis · 01-06-2004, 03:00 PM

Ahhh Falagar, don't say things like that - now I won't have peace before I've searched through MR ...

Falagar · 01-06-2004, 03:04 PM

Mwahahaha!

I believe it's somewhere at the end of the Athrabeth, in one of Christopher's notes perhaps.

Lord Manafirogh · 01-06-2004, 03:06 PM

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dont see aragorns name in the prophecy..........shows how goosd he is dont it

LoL. they must have not read silmarillion (the person who said aragorn could destroy Turin in single combat) or they just love aragorn too much. LOL i dont see no dwarfs either!

Wayfarer · 01-06-2004, 03:17 PM

You must have overlooked them.

Artanis · 01-06-2004, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by Falagar
Mwahahaha!

I believe it's somewhere at the end of the Athrabeth, in one of Christopher's notes perhaps.

Meh-heh. Found it. And not where you thought it was.

Turgon_Turambar · 01-07-2004, 02:08 PM

leave dwarves there cooooool!!!!!!

Lord Manafirogh · 01-11-2004, 11:53 AM

I dont like dwarves. They are nang but i just think they dont do enough but build weapons. Men are my favourite closesly fallowed by elves but mainly i like elves because of the Noldor. Elves are scared to die and they know their fate which makes me angry so diying should be a problem for them since they have another life. so i recon they should do more. I know this is out of the thread but i just wanted to say that.

Lord Manafirogh · 01-11-2004, 11:58 AM

I ment elves shouldn't have a problem dying since they know their fate. and nang means great for those who dont know. anyway yeah thats wot i think about the three races.

Turgon_Turambar · 01-12-2004, 01:56 PM

I wish Morgoth came back during the 3rd age whilst Sauron was attcking Gondor.

01-06-2004, 01:25 PM	#42
Turgon_Turambar Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The depths of Thangorodrim Posts: 145	I dont see aragorns name in the prophecy..........shows how goosd he is dont it __________________ GOD SENT ME TO PISS THE WORLD OFF!!!!!!!!!!

01-06-2004, 01:51 PM	#43
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Not really, no. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-06-2004, 02:03 PM	#44
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	I believe it's said somewhere in Morgoth's Ring that the Last Battle had been abandoned. __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

01-06-2004, 03:00 PM	#45
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Ahhh Falagar, don't say things like that - now I won't have peace before I've searched through MR ... __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

01-06-2004, 03:04 PM	#46
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	Mwahahaha! I believe it's somewhere at the end of the Athrabeth, in one of Christopher's notes perhaps. __________________ Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle.

01-06-2004, 03:17 PM	#48
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	You must have overlooked them. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-07-2004, 02:08 PM	#50
Turgon_Turambar Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The depths of Thangorodrim Posts: 145	leave dwarves there cooooool!!!!!! __________________ GOD SENT ME TO PISS THE WORLD OFF!!!!!!!!!!

01-11-2004, 11:53 AM	#51
Lord Manafirogh Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London Posts: 187	I dont like dwarves. They are nang but i just think they dont do enough but build weapons. Men are my favourite closesly fallowed by elves but mainly i like elves because of the Noldor. Elves are scared to die and they know their fate which makes me angry so diying should be a problem for them since they have another life. so i recon they should do more. I know this is out of the thread but i just wanted to say that.

01-11-2004, 11:58 AM	#52
Lord Manafirogh Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London Posts: 187	I ment elves shouldn't have a problem dying since they know their fate. and nang means great for those who dont know. anyway yeah thats wot i think about the three races.

01-12-2004, 01:56 PM	#53
Turgon_Turambar Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The depths of Thangorodrim Posts: 145	I wish Morgoth came back during the 3rd age whilst Sauron was attcking Gondor. __________________ GOD SENT ME TO PISS THE WORLD OFF!!!!!!!!!!

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