12-26-2002, 11:54 PM | #41 |
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That would make sense, because he DOES look much different. Notice the yellowish eyes in FotR. And did he have that stringy hair in TTT? I couldn't tell...oh well. It still was a great creation.
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12-27-2002, 01:02 AM | #42 |
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Perhaps he had a make-over. I seem to remember the orcs givig him the total care treatment at the parlor in Mordor. He even shows us his newly manicured nails while yelling "Shire! Baggins!"
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12-27-2002, 04:27 PM | #43 |
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I felt for gollum!!!
Yeah he did make me laugh but that was because i can relate to him Who doesnt feel like that sometimes or all the time |
12-27-2002, 05:34 PM | #44 |
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Gollum had stringy hair in TTT, it just blended with his head. I think that the reason he changed in TTT was because he didn't have the Ring and so wasn't totally wacked out, and not only that but he was being treated nicely for the first time in a long while so that made his countenance sweeter...almost cute in a strange way. Which is what I like about the movie Gollum...he's more human and you can pity him properly because you can see and hear him and you can understand to a certain extent where he's comin' from. It's sad he has to...*looks at those who have not read ROTK*...yeah...never mind.
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12-27-2002, 07:10 PM | #45 |
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I like the part where he is arguing with Sam about the food! I thought it was funny. I also like the song he sings when he is killing the fish. LOL! The parts where he is arguing with himself were good too.
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12-31-2002, 04:16 PM | #47 |
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Gollum is soooo cute, I think. I'm so depressed since they have to make him bad in the end. I don't think Tolkien made him that cute in the book. But they made him so cute in the movie, its going to be awful when he hands them to Shelob. Noo! Well, I love the rabbit and PO-TAY-TOE scene! HEHE!
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12-31-2002, 04:32 PM | #48 |
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My favorite scene with Gollum was the cave scene in the prologue in FotR. In fact, that's my favorite shot from either movie so far. It was brilliant and really captured the feeling of The Hobbit along with the darkness of LotR. A gorgeous 5 seconds of film.
As for Gollum in TTT, he was pretty okay, if a bit too Disnefied, but still (I gotta give credit where it's due) not as Disnified as he could have been or as I expected. Does anyone else think he looked like Cate Blanchett a lot of the time? His big eyes and his smile? I don't know why, but that's what I was thinking in almost every scene he was in. Yazad Last edited by Yazad : 12-31-2002 at 04:35 PM. |
01-02-2003, 10:37 AM | #49 |
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Re: Gollumadriel
I think Gollum is amazing in every sence he plays in. I really like his eyes, even though they freak me out.
But dosnt he destroy the ring because he falls in???
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01-02-2003, 11:45 AM | #50 |
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He falls in with the ring therefore destroying it
I love all the slinker/stinker scenes |
01-02-2003, 05:23 PM | #51 |
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The slinker/ stinker scenes are very cool... I can't wait untill rotk and we get to see the ring destroyed! But I don't look forward to shelob... I am afraid of spiders. I started to frak out during the spider scene of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets! My twin sister kept throwing popcorn at my... I was very very very very very scared!
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01-02-2003, 07:40 PM | #52 |
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no one has mentioned the start when frodo and sam first encounter Gollum that was great especially Gollum puffing when he is on top of frodo grabbing at the ring, he also got best punch for him turning round and punching sam down when sam grabbed his leg he should have appeared at helms deep, when he has the rope on just he way he moves and when he "swears to serve the master of the precious on... on... on the PRECIOUS" ohhh i could go on and on but ill only mention a few more bits liked all the scenes with gollum and the line at the end "come on hobbits long way to go yet" "follow me"
sure he was funny but that was just the way he was they didnt stuff round with him to make him that way he is just that sorta carachter... even my ignorant samwise-speaks-too-much friend felt sad for smeagol at the "smeagol why does it cry smeagol" "cruel men hurts us" and thats saying a lot
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01-02-2003, 09:36 PM | #53 |
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I ad forgotten about those parts, yes, they are very good. Yet no matter how mwny times smeagol is kicked, pushed, punched, or falss down, or jumps ona rock, you never see any bruises on him. Is that a mistake, or is his skin just super tough and harm resistant?
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01-02-2003, 10:57 PM | #54 |
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I am positive that I read on some article, most likely online, that they totally rebuilt and remodelled gollum after FotR. Not neccessarily to go with the story, but he's hardly in FOTR, or atleast hardly shown, and they didn't need to be incredibly concerned about every aspect of him until TTT. it makes sense. I don't think they did it because he is treated well in TTT... it was a very technical decision as far as i know.
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I have to warn you first off that I was not a fan of either movie. yet, as any good tolkien fan, I have seen them, and will see ROTK. They did, however, go from the original "Dark Drama" catergory, and make it "Light Hearted Laugh at Smeagol Drama" I didn't appreciate it. I also didn't appreciate the constant, all too scripted dialogue from Legolas and Gimli. This is my opinion, and I'm stickin' to it. Leilani
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I loved the movies! But you are right, they did move down a little on the very dark and scary and scary scale... I thought Helm's Deep was done very well though!
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I think, seeing as Frodo was sympathetic for Gollum, he should have explained that betrayal was on Faramir's part.
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But it is true that he wouldn't understand, and it also goes deeper than that. He is can't think of the word, but "tied" to Frodo by the oath he made, and that going both ways also "ties" Frodo to be faithful to him, the whole master/ servant thing. So in lying to him and getting him trapped, yes he is saving him, but he has also tricked him into a situation by abusing the trust that is there by virtue of the oath. There is no other way, but Gollum still sees it as a betrayal.
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