Shannara Series - Page 3

Lief Erikson · 11-06-2002, 12:37 PM

Telperion, if you're related to Celebrian, it might be more decent to correct her off line. I once had a sister posting here, and she occasionally also corrected my posts. It can be a pain.

Lief Erikson · 02-17-2003, 08:37 PM

Balderdash

. I just finished reading Morgawr, the third book to the Voyage of Jerle Shannara series, and that's no ending! Does anyone know when the next one is scheduled to be released?

Grey_Wolf · 02-18-2003, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lief Erikson
Balderdash . I just finished reading Morgawr, the third book to the Voyage of Jerle Shannara series, and that's no ending! Does anyone know when the next one is scheduled to be released?

Maybe he'll make "Voyage..." into a quartet like "Heritage... or go on indefinitely.

Elvengirl · 02-18-2003, 07:34 PM

I love the Shannara series! My fav are The Sword of Shannara and The Elfstones of Shannara. I have read all of the books written by Terry Brooks. The Magic Kingdom Series are pretty good and I didn't like the Word and Void series. Shannara's are by far the best. Though his newest books are kind of boring. I think he's running out of ideas. His first were soo exciting and the ends were such a surprise!

Lief Erikson · 02-18-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Grey_Wolf
Maybe he'll make "Voyage..." into a quartet like "Heritage... or go on indefinitely.

Yes, a quartet is possible. But the villains are all dead

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Originally posted by Elvengirl
I love the Shannara series! My fav are The Sword of Shannara and The Elfstones of Shannara. I have read all of the books written by Terry Brooks. The Magic Kingdom Series are pretty good and I didn't like the Word and Void series. Shannara's are by far the best. Though his newest books are kind of boring. I think he's running out of ideas. His first were soo exciting and the ends were such a surprise!

I'm not sure which are my favorites of the Shannara series. They're sort of blurred together in my mind, all except a few details from various books. I read one of the Magical Kingdom of Landover books, but didn't enjoy it as much as Shannara. I haven't read the other two series.

When you say his newest books, which ones in particular did you mean? Phantom Menace and the Jerle Shannara series, or are you talking about other books I haven't read? Actually, I haven't read most of Terry Brooks' books. Primarily I've only read the Shannara series.

Gwaimir Windgem · 02-18-2003, 10:14 PM

I liked the Wishsong, the Elfstones, the Elfqueen...Terry Brooks is a REALLY good author. Of course, the first one was something of a clone of LOTR (Great storyline, bad for approval). But he has more than made up for it in the past. His works are very interesting. I've read all except the Voyage of Jerle Shannara series. I've also read Magic Kingdom for Sale - SOLD!, and 1 or 2 other Landover books. Those were quite good as well.

Elvengirl · 02-19-2003, 09:57 AM

By the newest books I mean, THe Voyage of Jerle Shannara and a few in the Magic Kingdom Series. I thought the Sword or Elfstones and some others were sooo exciting, complex, unique and had such an awesome ending. The Voyage seemed kind of boring and repetetive to me.
Terry Brooks signed a contract to write one book a year as opposed to taking four years or so on the Sword. It seems as if he might be running out of ideas. But even so he is one of my fav authors.

Elvengirl · 02-19-2003, 08:06 PM

Hey, did anyone here ever think of the idea that The Four Lands in the Shannara series could be the future of Earth. I think it might possibly be. In the Sword, Allanon explains it. There was a time in the past when Man was the dominant race. (present day) There were huge cities, and highly developed science, and machines. In the Great Wars, man almost destroyed himself. Then those who survived, seperated and some evolved into other races. Such as the Dwarves, who hid under the earth in caves and became short and stocky and Trolls became tall, thick skinned, and lived in the mountains.
In several of his books he refers to places that seem like they are on Earth, North America in particular. The Elf Queen goes to an island (Hawaii). The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara travel across the Blue Divide (Pacific ocean) to Parkasia. (Asia) And in the Druid of Shannara they travel north to the huge remains of a city near the water (Seattle).
If this was Brook's intention I think it's a cool idea!
Does anyone else agree?

Lief Erikson · 02-20-2003, 09:42 PM

Oh yes, I definitely agree. As a matter of a fact, I've always assumed that this was Earth; there was never any doubt in my mind. I think that it's a fairly classic model (Other writers have done the same thing), and many elements (Like the races and some of the plot elements)are similar to Tolkien. Also in the Voyage of the Jerle of Shannara series, we hear Walker Boh talk about weapons at that time having been developed that could destroy an entire city. The way he spoke of it made it also seem very likely he was referring to atomic bombs.

In my opinion, there was a nuclear holocaust and because of the nuclear radiation some humans were deformed. So some of these races are alterred humans, or at least have seemed so to me. The absence of much vegitation and the new primitive state of mankind also make it make logical that we would see so many dangerous predators and so few herbivors.

As for locations . . . I'm not sure about that. It could be, but it doesn't have to be. If there was a nuclear holocaust, land masses might have shifted, due to the dreadful pounding and violent conditions. That's what happened in another series I've read that also assumes new races after a nuclear holocaust- the lands and oceans shifted.

I agree with you about the Voyage of the Jerle Shannara series being less good than the others. Terry Brooks' writing style is still good, but the books were somewhat predictable. There weren't many fascinating, unexpected plot twists. He sure enjoyed beating up his main characters in those books a lot, and they didn't seem quite so original.

I still enjoyed them a lot anyway, though

. I wonder how Terry Brooks plans to defeat the Federation.

Oh, one question. In The Elfstones of Shannara, did it still say that the Elfstones only effected magical beings? I don't remember that being a rule, but it has been so long since I read that book, I could easily have forgotten.

Elvengirl · 02-21-2003, 11:01 AM

Yes, I as well had always thought there had been a nuclear war. It makes sense how the civilization could have been practially wiped out and how radiation could have mutilated some humans into other creatures.
The locations could very easily not be what I thought. The books say that the geography of Earth had been greatly changed in the Wars. Especially if there had been a nuclear war. I know Brooks had lived in both Seattle and Hawaii, so I thought he may have intended the places to be the same. But that's just my idea.

Yea, I wonder how he'll defeat the Federation. Do you think he'll write another series? He ended the last book with so many new ideas and possibilities. I hope so.

About the Elfstones, The Elfstones were created from magic in a time when the Elves needed protection from the evil magic. Being a source of magic, I can see how they wouldn't have any effect on the nonmagic. I don't remember any rule about them, it has been a while since I read the books as well. From what I remember, they were only used against magic creatures.

I guess I'll have to read it again! THe Elfstones is one of my fav

Melko Belcha · 03-13-2003, 03:54 PM

Most people disagree but Wishsong and First King where the best. The only thing that got me is that all the bad guys seem to wear black cloaks.

Sylvee Estel · 03-13-2003, 04:36 PM

Terry Brooks is writing a new Shannara trilogy, called High Druid of Shannara.The first book in the trilogy, titled Jarka Ruus, is scheduled to be released in August or September of this year. Jarka Ruus will pick up 20 years after the events of Morgawr and will detail the Four Lands first Druid Council since the time of Bremen.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-13-2003, 06:50 PM

Deepest apologies, but I don't think I know 'Morgawr'. What is it?

Elvengirl · 03-13-2003, 07:20 PM

Morgawr is the name of the third book of The Voyage of Jerle Shannara. He is the powerful evil of the story who is like a huge lizard.

The new book sounds interesting. Will Brianne be the Driud?

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-13-2003, 11:41 PM

Och, that explains it. I haven't read the Voyage of the Jerle Shannara series.

Grey_Wolf · 03-15-2003, 04:25 PM

I actually thought that the "Shannara"-series would end with Morgawr. But now I suppose one has to buy the next trilogy as well.

Lief Erikson · 03-15-2003, 05:28 PM

Sneaky way to take people's money

. It's the story that never ends!

I had thought it would end with Morgawr too, and it sort of did, but it also didn't. And that's why I have to read the next series. Not that I wouldn't have, anyway

.

Thanks for the information on the next Shannara trilogy, Sylvee

.

Grey_Wolf · 03-16-2003, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lief Erikson
Sneaky way to take people's money . It's the story that never ends!

I had thought it would end with Morgawr too, and it sort of did, but it also didn't. And that's why I have to read the next series. Not that I wouldn't have, anyway .

Thanks for the information on the next Shannara trilogy, Sylvee .

I usually buy them one by one, but I think I'll buy the finished trilogy this time and who knows, it might be the final one.

Aewionen · 06-11-2003, 04:21 PM

I love this series!!! I started to read the Isle Witch and I thought it was awesome!! My sister then stole it from me and now I am reading it again. Though it is kinda like LotR, it is still written with a unique sort of way. My fav. character is Little Red, or Rue Meridian.

Elvengirl · 06-12-2003, 07:33 PM

If you like Shannara you should really read his first series

The Sword of Shannara (awesome)
Elfstones of Shannara (my favorite)
Wishsong of Shannara

In my opinion the are better than the Jerle Shannara.

02-18-2003, 10:14 PM	#46
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I liked the Wishsong, the Elfstones, the Elfqueen...Terry Brooks is a REALLY good author. Of course, the first one was something of a clone of LOTR (Great storyline, bad for approval). But he has more than made up for it in the past. His works are very interesting. I've read all except the Voyage of Jerle Shannara series. I've also read Magic Kingdom for Sale - SOLD!, and 1 or 2 other Landover books. Those were quite good as well. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

02-20-2003, 09:42 PM	#49
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Oh yes, I definitely agree. As a matter of a fact, I've always assumed that this was Earth; there was never any doubt in my mind. I think that it's a fairly classic model (Other writers have done the same thing), and many elements (Like the races and some of the plot elements)are similar to Tolkien. Also in the Voyage of the Jerle of Shannara series, we hear Walker Boh talk about weapons at that time having been developed that could destroy an entire city. The way he spoke of it made it also seem very likely he was referring to atomic bombs. In my opinion, there was a nuclear holocaust and because of the nuclear radiation some humans were deformed. So some of these races are alterred humans, or at least have seemed so to me. The absence of much vegitation and the new primitive state of mankind also make it make logical that we would see so many dangerous predators and so few herbivors. As for locations . . . I'm not sure about that. It could be, but it doesn't have to be. If there was a nuclear holocaust, land masses might have shifted, due to the dreadful pounding and violent conditions. That's what happened in another series I've read that also assumes new races after a nuclear holocaust- the lands and oceans shifted. I agree with you about the Voyage of the Jerle Shannara series being less good than the others. Terry Brooks' writing style is still good, but the books were somewhat predictable. There weren't many fascinating, unexpected plot twists. He sure enjoyed beating up his main characters in those books a lot, and they didn't seem quite so original. I still enjoyed them a lot anyway, though . I wonder how Terry Brooks plans to defeat the Federation. Oh, one question. In The Elfstones of Shannara, did it still say that the Elfstones only effected magical beings? I don't remember that being a rule, but it has been so long since I read that book, I could easily have forgotten. Last edited by Lief Erikson : 02-20-2003 at 09:44 PM.

03-13-2003, 04:36 PM	#52
Sylvee Estel Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 115	Terry Brooks is writing a new Shannara trilogy, called High Druid of Shannara.The first book in the trilogy, titled Jarka Ruus, is scheduled to be released in August or September of this year. Jarka Ruus will pick up 20 years after the events of Morgawr and will detail the Four Lands first Druid Council since the time of Bremen. __________________ ~Sylvee

03-13-2003, 06:50 PM	#53
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Deepest apologies, but I don't think I know 'Morgawr'. What is it? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-13-2003, 11:41 PM	#55
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Och, that explains it. I haven't read the Voyage of the Jerle Shannara series. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

11-06-2002, 12:37 PM	#41
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Telperion, if you're related to Celebrian, it might be more decent to correct her off line. I once had a sister posting here, and she occasionally also corrected my posts. It can be a pain.

02-17-2003, 08:37 PM	#42
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Balderdash . I just finished reading Morgawr, the third book to the Voyage of Jerle Shannara series, and that's no ending! Does anyone know when the next one is scheduled to be released?

02-18-2003, 07:34 PM	#44
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	I love the Shannara series! My fav are The Sword of Shannara and The Elfstones of Shannara. I have read all of the books written by Terry Brooks. The Magic Kingdom Series are pretty good and I didn't like the Word and Void series. Shannara's are by far the best. Though his newest books are kind of boring. I think he's running out of ideas. His first were soo exciting and the ends were such a surprise!

02-19-2003, 09:57 AM	#47
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	By the newest books I mean, THe Voyage of Jerle Shannara and a few in the Magic Kingdom Series. I thought the Sword or Elfstones and some others were sooo exciting, complex, unique and had such an awesome ending. The Voyage seemed kind of boring and repetetive to me. Terry Brooks signed a contract to write one book a year as opposed to taking four years or so on the Sword. It seems as if he might be running out of ideas. But even so he is one of my fav authors.

02-19-2003, 08:06 PM	#48
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	Hey, did anyone here ever think of the idea that The Four Lands in the Shannara series could be the future of Earth. I think it might possibly be. In the Sword, Allanon explains it. There was a time in the past when Man was the dominant race. (present day) There were huge cities, and highly developed science, and machines. In the Great Wars, man almost destroyed himself. Then those who survived, seperated and some evolved into other races. Such as the Dwarves, who hid under the earth in caves and became short and stocky and Trolls became tall, thick skinned, and lived in the mountains. In several of his books he refers to places that seem like they are on Earth, North America in particular. The Elf Queen goes to an island (Hawaii). The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara travel across the Blue Divide (Pacific ocean) to Parkasia. (Asia) And in the Druid of Shannara they travel north to the huge remains of a city near the water (Seattle). If this was Brook's intention I think it's a cool idea! Does anyone else agree?

02-21-2003, 11:01 AM	#50
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	Yes, I as well had always thought there had been a nuclear war. It makes sense how the civilization could have been practially wiped out and how radiation could have mutilated some humans into other creatures. The locations could very easily not be what I thought. The books say that the geography of Earth had been greatly changed in the Wars. Especially if there had been a nuclear war. I know Brooks had lived in both Seattle and Hawaii, so I thought he may have intended the places to be the same. But that's just my idea. Yea, I wonder how he'll defeat the Federation. Do you think he'll write another series? He ended the last book with so many new ideas and possibilities. I hope so. About the Elfstones, The Elfstones were created from magic in a time when the Elves needed protection from the evil magic. Being a source of magic, I can see how they wouldn't have any effect on the nonmagic. I don't remember any rule about them, it has been a while since I read the books as well. From what I remember, they were only used against magic creatures. I guess I'll have to read it again! THe Elfstones is one of my fav

03-13-2003, 03:54 PM	#51
Melko Belcha Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Behind the Walls of Night Posts: 286	Most people disagree but Wishsong and First King where the best. The only thing that got me is that all the bad guys seem to wear black cloaks.

03-13-2003, 07:20 PM	#54
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	Morgawr is the name of the third book of The Voyage of Jerle Shannara. He is the powerful evil of the story who is like a huge lizard. The new book sounds interesting. Will Brianne be the Driud?

03-15-2003, 04:25 PM	#56
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	I actually thought that the "Shannara"-series would end with Morgawr. But now I suppose one has to buy the next trilogy as well.

03-15-2003, 05:28 PM	#57
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	Sneaky way to take people's money . It's the story that never ends! I had thought it would end with Morgawr too, and it sort of did, but it also didn't. And that's why I have to read the next series. Not that I wouldn't have, anyway . Thanks for the information on the next Shannara trilogy, Sylvee .

06-11-2003, 04:21 PM	#59
Aewionen Elf Lord Join Date: May 2003 Location: Strong Badia. I live in the tire. Posts: 791	I love this series!!! I started to read the Isle Witch and I thought it was awesome!! My sister then stole it from me and now I am reading it again. Though it is kinda like LotR, it is still written with a unique sort of way. My fav. character is Little Red, or Rue Meridian. __________________ Aewionen, Maiden of Gondor `````````````````````````````` Home is behind the world ahead And there are many paths to tread Through shadow to the edge of night Until the stars are all alight. Mist and shadow Cloud and shade All shall fade All shall fade "I feel a slight tingling feeling... I think its affecting me." -Legolas during a drinking contest (EE ROTK)

06-12-2003, 07:33 PM	#60
Elvengirl Mirthful Maiden Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 1,252	If you like Shannara you should really read his first series The Sword of Shannara (awesome) Elfstones of Shannara (my favorite) Wishsong of Shannara In my opinion the are better than the Jerle Shannara. __________________ The Elves represent, as it were, the artistic, aesthetic, and purely scientific aspects of the Humane nature raised to a higher level than is actually seen in Men.~ J.R.R. Tolkien Wanna play? www.thievesguild.com

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