Favorite Fortress

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

Did the dwarves have their own name for it because Moria was elvish.

Here are the names that Foster lists:

Khazad-Dum is dwarvish meaning (dwarf-mansion)

It was called the Dwarrowdelf in Westron

It was called Hadhodrond in Sindarin, although the more usual Elvish name was Moria.

From the latter name came the Westron Black Pit, Black Chasm, and Mines of Moria.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

Wouldn't The Mines of Moria be a combination of Westron and elvish hen as Moria was elvish and The Mines of was Westron.

[Sister Golden Hair]

Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

Wouldn't The Mines of Moria be a combination of Westron and elvish hen as Moria was elvish and The Mines of was Westron.

Well perhaps someone learned in Elvish can answer. Not my specialty.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

And they dwarves called part of it Dwarrodelf as that is how Gimli referred to it when Merry commented on it.

[Haradrim]

SO T.D. according to SGH moria, khazud-dum, dwarrowdelf, etc is not a country and therefore counts as a fortress.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

So that is my favourite fortress

[Haradrim]

Great T.D. but why?

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

It shows the ultimate hieght of the dwarves and they truely loved it. It was like their version of MInas Tirith.

[Haradrim]

Actually its kind of ffunny if you think about it because during LOTR Moria was definately at the peak of it s height and Minas Tirith wasnbt. Of course Minas Tirith was still good controlled but it is kind of funny the way they kind of parralel. Also does anyone know what Osgiliath was like at its height.

[Telcontar_Dunedain]

It was a long city that stretched over the Anduin. It was quite like Minas Tirith and was in the middle of Minas Ithil and Minas Anor. (I think )

[Michael Martinez]

Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

It was a long city that stretched over the Anduin. It was quite like Minas Tirith and was in the middle of Minas Ithil and Minas Anor. (I think )

Osgiliath started out as a city built upon an immense bridge spanning the Anduin. It had gates at both ends of the bridge and the two kings had a hall or tower somewhere in the middle where their thrones were stationed side by side.

Eventually, the city grew large enough that buildings were erected on both sides of the river. Their ruins are described in The Lord of the Rings.

[Last Child of Ungoliant]

i would have to say Gondolin
the city of the hill of singing stone, or something to that effect
turgon built a perfect city there, i think

[Lenya]

Minas Tirith - I love their whole circle-walls-thing. It's a stunning defense strategy.

[Pytt]

Gondolin or Nargothrond. I really love caves, so maybe you can put Moria and Doriath there as well, but not if I could pick.

[Dark Lord Sauron]

Barad-dûr was built by Sauron, the Dark Lord of Mordor, with the power of the One Ring, during the Second Age. The building took six hundred years to complete; it was the greatest fortress ever built since the Fall of Angband, and much of Sauron's personal power went into it.

Barad-dûr was besieged for seven years by the Last Alliance of Elves and Men, and was leveled after Sauron's defeat at the end of the Second Age, but because it was created using the power of the One Ring its foundations could not be destroyed completely unless the Ring itself should be destroyed. Isildur failed to destroy the Ring, and so the tower was re-built when Sauron returned to Mordor thousands of years later.

Only when the One Ring was destroyed did the Tower finally fall; without Sauron's power to sustain it, it could not stand. Barad-dûr collapsed to ruin and Sauron was finally defeated.

The Dark Tower was described as existing on a massive scale so large it was almost surreal, although Tolkien does not provide much detail beyond its size and immense strength. Since it had a "topmost tower" (the location of the Window of the Eye, from which the Eye of Sauron gazed out over Middle-earth), it presumably had multiple towers. It is otherwise descripted as dark and surrounded in shadow, so that it could not be clearly seen.

Indeed, there is no greater fortress in all of Endor.

[Nurvingiel]

What about Thangorodruim? Before its demise anyway. (Hazy Sil knowledge... )

[Pytt]

was that directed to me?
yes, offcourse, a place where eagles can live is a favourite

[Lenya]

OK, we get it. You love the Eagles. You've made that point rather clear

[me9996]

Propubly ( bad spelling!) rivindail... that's not a fortress? Is it?

How about balan-dor?

[Lenya]

Originally Posted by me9996

Propubly ( bad spelling!) rivindail... that's not a fortress? Is it?

How about balan-dor?

Why do you choose that?