What would make you go to war/ or kill - Page 2

Ma Uai: Ua Nemti · 01-20-2003, 10:54 PM

To go to war: If I was called upon to serve, I would.

To kill: If something or someone could raise in a severe emotion (mainly anger) in the heat of the moment, I would kill. I am one to act before I think. I would, of course, regret it afterwards most likely.

I highly doubt I would be strong enough to kill anyone without a gun or other nasty weapon.

wahine · 01-20-2003, 10:59 PM

For war: If I were drafted I'd go, but I don't think they'd want a surfy. I wouldn't willingly sign up, I haven't experienced to many things to put my life at risk.

Kill: As many have said to protect my family, although I'm sure my family could take care of itself. If someone ATE MY DOG, I'd congratulate them and ask them how they tasted, my dogs aren't worth going to prison for. If someone killed or abused the weeds and grommets I watch from here to there, I'd kill. My kids are great.

I'm actually laid-back, although you might not know it. Everything I have is insured *except my spelling* and I wouldn't kill over a trashed apartment.

I would kill over my boards though, if anyone vandalized them, I would hunt them down, and drown them slowly, feeling their heads jerk under the water and oncoming waves, I'd grab them by the roots of their hair, give them a tiny breath and force them back under, then *snaps out of it*

I'm NOT crazy!

Renille · 01-20-2003, 11:34 PM

I don't think I could ever kill anyone for anything. I could seriously hurt someone if my family were in danger...but killing...no. I always think of Gandalf's quote about Gollum when I think about killing...you know, the "do not be to hasty to deal out death" one.
I hope a draft is never necessary, but if it is, and if I was drafted, I'd beg to get a secretarial/medical/anything but combat job. But then, I'm a girl. I'm not sure I even can be drafted. CAN girls be drafted????

Ma Uai: Ua Nemti · 01-20-2003, 11:35 PM

Not in the USA

***Khamûl*** · 01-21-2003, 12:05 AM

To kill: self-defense, imminent danger to my family, hijacking. I think that's about it. I'm generally a non-violent person, but I will stand up for myself. If someone killed and ate my dog, I'd probably just give them a good beating.

To war: probably the draft. It's not really something that I'd sign up for unless there was something I really believed in. But if I got drafted, I wouldn't fight it.

Millane · 01-21-2003, 12:32 AM

killing: ummm i dunno in most cases a beating is sufficient. if it was to help other people live (not just my family) i would kill. if someone broke into my house well i would probly just pick up whatever was closest and give them a good thrashing i dont care if you get in trouble.

war: umm i dont think it would come to drafting in aust but if i got drafted well id go i would inlist if i really thought it was the only solution.maybe if my brother or dad went. there was some kid in WW1 who got his dad to sign him up so they went together and the kid died about 3 weeks into fighting he was only 13 or something, i always thought that that would have been the bravest thing to do for the kid and his dad.

Wayfarer · 01-21-2003, 12:37 AM

Not much. Need, maybe.

If there ever comes a time when I find killing to be nescessary, I'll do it. Quickly and efficiently, of course, but without hesitation.

Or so I like to tell myself. ]: )

cassiopeia · 01-21-2003, 01:02 AM

I would kill someone if they were trying to hurt one of my family (which includes my beautiful dog!) or in self defense. Maybe even in a rage after they murdered one of my family (including my dog again). I would only go to war if I really really needed to because our country was being taken over.

Lefty Scaevola · 01-21-2003, 01:42 AM

Waiver on my medical conditions would have done it. I had an appointment to West Point, but then peace broke out, and the army got picky about medical conditions it might have waived..

Huan · 01-21-2003, 01:55 AM

I've noticed these posts about dogs popping up. I, perversely perhaps, actually kind of value canine life over the human; if anyone directly threatened my dog they'd be in for it. Anyone see that story about the American cop (I never caught which state it was) who shot and killed the dog of a family the cops had pulled over? And it was on police videotape! OOhhh, if that were my dog...Actually I was talking about that with a co-worker of similar mind who said, "If the cops shot my dog they'd have to shoot me too." Ditto.

Elenka · 01-21-2003, 08:05 AM

You can blame me for the dog stuff, I started it.
As for going to war, if I was drafted (which apparently I can't be) then I'd refuse to go. In order to make me fight in a war, they'd have to toss me in front of enemy lines with a gun. I'm generally a violent person, but shooting people full of holes is past my limits.

Gwaimir Windgem · 01-21-2003, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huan
I've noticed these posts about dogs popping up. I, perversely perhaps, actually kind of value canine life over the human

Perhaps?

Elven Archer · 01-21-2003, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huan
I've noticed these posts about dogs popping up. I, perversely perhaps, actually kind of value canine life over the human; if anyone directly threatened my dog they'd be in for it. Anyone see that story about the American cop (I never caught which state it was) who shot and killed the dog of a family the cops had pulled over? And it was on police videotape! OOhhh, if that were my dog...Actually I was talking about that with a co-worker of similar mind who said, "If the cops shot my dog they'd have to shoot me too." Ditto.

i heard about that. Someone left their wallet on the top of the car so money was flying out. someone thought they were bank roobers cause of it and then they called the cops. the cops pulled 'em over and they were all outside of the car when their really little bull dog came out barking and wagging its tail. i guess it came toward the cop and he thought it was a fullgrown pit bull about to attack him so he shot it twice point blank! the family ws right there! anyhoo, i don't think i'd kill someone if they tried to or did kill my dog but i'd probably hurt him if i was there when he did it.

LuthienTinuviel · 01-21-2003, 12:34 PM

i would fight for all that is green and growing.
not physical fights all the time though... nothing would make me kill, unless it was to protect ME.

hey, maybe i could twist that around and go after PJ....

FrodoFriend · 01-21-2003, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayfarer
Not much. Need, maybe.

If there ever comes a time when I find killing to be nescessary, I'll do it. Quickly and efficiently, of course, but without hesitation.

Or so I like to tell myself. ]: )

What makes you so sure you could kill quickly and efficiently? I have the nagging suspicion it's not as easy as it looks in the movies...

Wayfarer · 01-21-2003, 03:29 PM

My last line was supposed to indicate that I was joking, halfwit. ]: )

Elf Girl · 01-21-2003, 04:01 PM

As for dodging the draft, I'll go visit Eärniel. For a loooooooong time.

***Jonathan*** · 01-21-2003, 04:35 PM

I had a weird dream once. It was in October 2001, when America had started it's war in Afghanistan.
I dreamt that there was this guy (the villain from the movie Die Hard III, don't ask me why) gathered some young people, me included, and encouraged them to join him and go to war in Afghanistan. I and the youths drank his every word and thought "Yeah, let's fight the Taliban for honour and glory!" Then we boarded a cruiser that would take us there (strange, Afghanistan doesn't have a coast).

On that cruiser, I realised that this Die Hard villain was fooling us all and that there was no glory for us to find getting ourselves killed. Since we lacked experience of real combat, we would be used as cannon fodder.

Oh well, I guess my point is that I would not go to war, unless I had something worth fighting for. That could be freedom, independence or maybe to revenge my dog if someone ate him

(Just kidding, I don't have a dog)

Ma Uai: Ua Nemti · 01-21-2003, 10:28 PM

I'd kill for my dog.

wahine · 01-23-2003, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ma Uai: Ua Nemti
Not in the USA

Note: the feminists who want to be equal with men haven't ever brought up this interesting issue. And I think Congress is trying to change that, or at least did a few years back.

Quote:

Originally posted by Huan
if anyone directly threatened my dog they'd be in for it.

Really? He is a rather tastey sounding mongrel.

Quote:

halfwit

Ha, ha, ha!

01-20-2003, 10:54 PM	#21
Ma Uai: Ua Nemti Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: We'd tell you but you're all out to get us. Posts: 215	To go to war: If I was called upon to serve, I would. To kill: If something or someone could raise in a severe emotion (mainly anger) in the heat of the moment, I would kill. I am one to act before I think. I would, of course, regret it afterwards most likely. I highly doubt I would be strong enough to kill anyone without a gun or other nasty weapon. __________________ Pharoah "Vires decusque."

01-20-2003, 10:59 PM	#22
wahine The Original Amazonian Coconut Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Answering no questions, telling no lies. Posts: 753	For war: If I were drafted I'd go, but I don't think they'd want a surfy. I wouldn't willingly sign up, I haven't experienced to many things to put my life at risk. Kill: As many have said to protect my family, although I'm sure my family could take care of itself. If someone ATE MY DOG, I'd congratulate them and ask them how they tasted, my dogs aren't worth going to prison for. If someone killed or abused the weeds and grommets I watch from here to there, I'd kill. My kids are great. I'm actually laid-back, although you might not know it. Everything I have is insured except my spelling and I wouldn't kill over a trashed apartment. I would kill over my boards though, if anyone vandalized them, I would hunt them down, and drown them slowly, feeling their heads jerk under the water and oncoming waves, I'd grab them by the roots of their hair, give them a tiny breath and force them back under, then snaps out of it I'm NOT crazy! __________________ Hem, hem

01-20-2003, 11:34 PM	#23
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	I don't think I could ever kill anyone for anything. I could seriously hurt someone if my family were in danger...but killing...no. I always think of Gandalf's quote about Gollum when I think about killing...you know, the "do not be to hasty to deal out death" one. I hope a draft is never necessary, but if it is, and if I was drafted, I'd beg to get a secretarial/medical/anything but combat job. But then, I'm a girl. I'm not sure I even can be drafted. CAN girls be drafted???? __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

01-20-2003, 11:35 PM	#24
Ma Uai: Ua Nemti Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: We'd tell you but you're all out to get us. Posts: 215	Not in the USA __________________ Pharoah "Vires decusque."

01-21-2003, 12:05 AM	#25
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	To kill: self-defense, imminent danger to my family, hijacking. I think that's about it. I'm generally a non-violent person, but I will stand up for myself. If someone killed and ate my dog, I'd probably just give them a good beating. To war: probably the draft. It's not really something that I'd sign up for unless there was something I really believed in. But if I got drafted, I wouldn't fight it. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

01-21-2003, 12:32 AM	#26
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	killing: ummm i dunno in most cases a beating is sufficient. if it was to help other people live (not just my family) i would kill. if someone broke into my house well i would probly just pick up whatever was closest and give them a good thrashing i dont care if you get in trouble. war: umm i dont think it would come to drafting in aust but if i got drafted well id go i would inlist if i really thought it was the only solution.maybe if my brother or dad went. there was some kid in WW1 who got his dad to sign him up so they went together and the kid died about 3 weeks into fighting he was only 13 or something, i always thought that that would have been the bravest thing to do for the kid and his dad. __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

01-21-2003, 12:37 AM	#27
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Not much. Need, maybe. If there ever comes a time when I find killing to be nescessary, I'll do it. Quickly and efficiently, of course, but without hesitation. Or so I like to tell myself. ]: ) __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned Last edited by Wayfarer : 01-21-2003 at 12:38 AM.

01-21-2003, 01:02 AM	#28
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	I would kill someone if they were trying to hurt one of my family (which includes my beautiful dog!) or in self defense. Maybe even in a rage after they murdered one of my family (including my dog again). I would only go to war if I really really needed to because our country was being taken over. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.

01-21-2003, 01:42 AM	#29
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	Waiver on my medical conditions would have done it. I had an appointment to West Point, but then peace broke out, and the army got picky about medical conditions it might have waived..

01-21-2003, 01:55 AM	#30
Huan Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 274	I've noticed these posts about dogs popping up. I, perversely perhaps, actually kind of value canine life over the human; if anyone directly threatened my dog they'd be in for it. Anyone see that story about the American cop (I never caught which state it was) who shot and killed the dog of a family the cops had pulled over? And it was on police videotape! OOhhh, if that were my dog...Actually I was talking about that with a co-worker of similar mind who said, "If the cops shot my dog they'd have to shoot me too." Ditto.

01-21-2003, 08:05 AM	#31
Elenka The Negative Soul of Entmoot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Middle Distance Posts: 651	You can blame me for the dog stuff, I started it. As for going to war, if I was drafted (which apparently I can't be) then I'd refuse to go. In order to make me fight in a war, they'd have to toss me in front of enemy lines with a gun. I'm generally a violent person, but shooting people full of holes is past my limits. __________________ W00T for the M00T!! War doesn't determine who is right - war determines who is left. Last edited by Elenka : 01-30-2003 at 07:55 AM.

01-21-2003, 12:34 PM	#34
LuthienTinuviel protector of orphaned rabbits Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kalamazoo... yes, its a real place! Posts: 1,236	i would fight for all that is green and growing. not physical fights all the time though... nothing would make me kill, unless it was to protect ME. hey, maybe i could twist that around and go after PJ.... __________________

01-21-2003, 03:29 PM	#36
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	My last line was supposed to indicate that I was joking, halfwit. ]: ) __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-21-2003, 04:01 PM	#37
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	As for dodging the draft, I'll go visit Eärniel. For a loooooooong time. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

01-21-2003, 04:35 PM	#38
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	I had a weird dream once. It was in October 2001, when America had started it's war in Afghanistan. I dreamt that there was this guy (the villain from the movie Die Hard III, don't ask me why) gathered some young people, me included, and encouraged them to join him and go to war in Afghanistan. I and the youths drank his every word and thought "Yeah, let's fight the Taliban for honour and glory!" Then we boarded a cruiser that would take us there (strange, Afghanistan doesn't have a coast). On that cruiser, I realised that this Die Hard villain was fooling us all and that there was no glory for us to find getting ourselves killed. Since we lacked experience of real combat, we would be used as cannon fodder. Oh well, I guess my point is that I would not go to war, unless I had something worth fighting for. That could be freedom, independence or maybe to revenge my dog if someone ate him (Just kidding, I don't have a dog) __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

01-21-2003, 10:28 PM	#39
Ma Uai: Ua Nemti Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: We'd tell you but you're all out to get us. Posts: 215	I'd kill for my dog. __________________ Pharoah "Vires decusque."

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