Evil Elves - Page 2

06-08-2001, 10:11 PM

Yep, easygreen, easterlinge, you were right.

06-11-2001, 08:46 AM

What I meant was, their Oath being made null and void, they no longer have to fulfill it. Or at least they can put off fulfilling it as long as no good way can be found, only foul means.

afro-elf · 01-14-2002, 11:47 PM

inoldonil says

Quote:

. Many of the Northern Sindar in the First Age were actually in the service of Morgoth, and used by him as spies

where is this stated?

Ñólendil · 01-15-2002, 01:03 AM

War of the Jewels, I think, or Peoples of Middle-earth. HoMe books.

afro-elf · 01-15-2002, 03:05 AM

Thanks.

Foul_Dwimmerlaik · 01-15-2002, 08:37 PM

I'm not so sure that the sons of Feanor could have simply done a cost-benefit analysis, as it were, decided that the evil of abandoning their father's oath was less than the evil of fulfilling it, and been on their merry (or their pippin) way. I think Feanor's doom ran deeper than that.

Wayfarer · 01-15-2002, 08:42 PM

The 'doom' of feanor wasn't a -predestination, I don't think.

it was more along hte lines of 'if you persist in this, you will be in a hell of a lot of trouble'

Thus, they could have desisted and repented.

but they, so could sauron.

Starr Polish · 01-15-2002, 09:31 PM

Good point, Easterlinge, BUt you have to remember that different religions have different evils (ie Kosher food in the Jewish religion) and each religion is interpreted by the individual, thus they may have a different idea of evil.

06-08-2001, 10:11 PM	#21
Inoldonil Guest Posts: n/a	Re: It was Maglor Yep, easygreen, easterlinge, you were right.

06-11-2001, 08:46 AM	#22
easterlinge Guest Posts: n/a	Huh? What I meant was, their Oath being made null and void, they no longer have to fulfill it. Or at least they can put off fulfilling it as long as no good way can be found, only foul means.

01-15-2002, 01:03 AM	#24
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	War of the Jewels, I think, or Peoples of Middle-earth. HoMe books. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

01-15-2002, 03:05 AM	#25
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Thanks. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-15-2002, 08:42 PM	#27
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	The 'doom' of feanor wasn't a -predestination, I don't think. it was more along hte lines of 'if you persist in this, you will be in a hell of a lot of trouble' Thus, they could have desisted and repented. but they, so could sauron. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

01-15-2002, 08:37 PM	#26
Foul_Dwimmerlaik Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 76	I'm not so sure that the sons of Feanor could have simply done a cost-benefit analysis, as it were, decided that the evil of abandoning their father's oath was less than the evil of fulfilling it, and been on their merry (or their pippin) way. I think Feanor's doom ran deeper than that.

01-15-2002, 09:31 PM	#28
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Good point, Easterlinge, BUt you have to remember that different religions have different evils (ie Kosher food in the Jewish religion) and each religion is interpreted by the individual, thus they may have a different idea of evil.

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