Wafer of Lembas - Page 2

Darius O'Herran · 02-22-2002, 03:28 PM

Well, from what I know of Tolkien, and of his background, I would assume they were a lot like the wafers you would get in church. You see, there is a reasoning behind this. Tolkien was a devout roman catholic. I know that when you read Tolkien there is no mention of god or any gods whatsoever in the "trilogy" Tolkien didn't originally write the works as religious symbolism, he did in the revisions make a concious effort to do so. Also, Lembas is called Waybread, which is the bread given to one on their deathbed for your last communion in catholicism. It can almost be compared, the waybread of catholicism is supposed to help you along your journey to heaven. The waybread in Tolkien was also to help upon the most important journey of Frodo's life. It was, in its own way, a sustainer of his life. The Lembas can look however you want it to in your mind, but that is my reasoning as to why I believe in Tolkien's mind, it was probably a lot like a big piece of communion bread.

Darius O'Herran

Nibs · 02-22-2002, 03:38 PM

Hey, who mentioned the meaning of lembas?? Make your own thread.

Just kidding. Welcome to the 'moot, Darius. Wipe your feet before entering

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Kirinki54 · 02-22-2002, 05:49 PM

"In Quenya it was most often named coimas which is 'life-bread'." Of Lembas, PoME.

The essay also says lembas was made "for the comfort of those who had need to go upon a long journey in the wild, or of the hurt whose life was in peril".

aldesign · 02-22-2002, 07:37 PM

Nibs Quote:
Yeah, huh! I don't have my book with me, Aldesign, but one of the elves explicitly says to keep them in their leaf wrappings so they can last a while. Not to tear you down or anything .
End Quote

Huh?
i never said they didnt come in leaves.

Cram, no idea

Nibs · 02-22-2002, 09:45 PM

Wow, wow... you're right and I'm sorry... I imagined there was a "don't" inserted into your sentence... mea culpa.

It's a good thing I didn't make it a scathing diatribe... I'd have been char-broiled by now.

I'm sorry... I was beaten with nunchukas as a child...

Eruviel Greenleaf · 02-22-2002, 10:52 PM

http://www.elfenomeno.com/peliculas/...mag.php?id=997
This is a picture of Lembas from the film. But if they cut it, what will Sam and Frodo, Merry and Pippin, and the Three Hunters (Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli) eat in the next movies?

Evenstar · 02-22-2002, 11:36 PM

I know!!! Them leaving out Lembas is like them leaving out the gifts!!! If it weren't for Lembas...I'm sure that someone would have passed out before the end...but that's just me!!!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 02-22-2002, 11:48 PM

I guess since they left out the gifts, there will be no mallorn tree in the Shire. Grrr. They'll all starve to death in the next movie! Silly Peter Jackson. Oh well.
BTW, I always imagined Lembas to be sort of light yellowy-corn flour-coloured wafers about 1/4 inch thick, slightly crumbly, and round. A lot like flat cakes of cornbread.

aldesign · 02-23-2002, 06:30 PM

cool picture, but still dont get to see the actual Lembas, just the fecking leaves!

cheers for that pic, nice find anyway.

Nibs, ur excused

and no, i wouldnt roast u, i know how that feels.

and i will personaly Shoot Jackson if he leaves out Lembas

andy

mirrille · 02-23-2002, 07:52 PM

Interesting. I never thought of lembas as cookies or oatmeal.
I thought of it as fairly thin cream coloured crispy wafers. They're supposed to be sweet right? So I thought of something like a lightly sweet dessert biscuit. The consistency would be much more fine than oatmeal, which is lumpy and more what I think cram would be like. I imagined the leaves would be sort of long like bamboo leaves and dried (therefore dark coloured).

Rána Eressëa · 02-23-2002, 10:33 PM

I shall stick to my twinkie theory

Eruviel Greenleaf · 02-23-2002, 11:28 PM

You could always try visiting the Middle-earth recipes thread and make some Lembas of your own. Not that it is remotely what lembas should be like, methinks, but it is good!

Earenya · 02-24-2002, 03:05 AM

I agree with most of you- thinish, wafery cookie-crackers, with some sort of texture, similar to a grain based cake.

Of course, with whatever appearance, what would it taste like??

Renille · 02-24-2002, 02:32 PM

There are several recipies for lembas in the Middle Earth thread, "Middle Earth Recipies" or something like that. I have yet to try them...I might, I'm not sure...

Treebeard's apprentice · 02-24-2002, 04:30 PM

I always figured they were sort of like squarish sugar cookies, but with less flavor (As far as I can tell, Middle Earth didn't really have anything like sugar). Flavor is unimportant, though. The main thing is that they supply plenty of nutrition, especially for a pair of Halflings on an Adventure.

Elf Girl · 02-25-2002, 09:30 PM

My lembas is a little like miniature loaves of bread wrapped in leaves. When unwrapped, they have sort of good-tasting flower dust on them, under that, they're brown, and inside, they're white. Oooooh they tase good.

Khadrane · 03-12-2002, 11:55 PM

I only hope it doesn't taste like my feeble attempt to make some.

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-12-2002, 11:57 PM

Khadrane, try Tanoliel's latest (I think it's her latest) recipe for lembas on the Middle-earth recipes in the Middle-earth forum. Although I don't think it's quite Lembas, they ARE really good!!!!!

Khadrane · 03-14-2002, 09:52 PM

Okay. Thanks! I think I will! (It can't taste worse than mine...)

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-14-2002, 10:08 PM

Oh good

People should try and make it. The way I talk, Tano ought to hire me to advertise for her. . .I keep telling people to make it!

02-22-2002, 03:28 PM	#21
Darius O'Herran Sapling Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 7	Lembas Yummmm Well, from what I know of Tolkien, and of his background, I would assume they were a lot like the wafers you would get in church. You see, there is a reasoning behind this. Tolkien was a devout roman catholic. I know that when you read Tolkien there is no mention of god or any gods whatsoever in the "trilogy" Tolkien didn't originally write the works as religious symbolism, he did in the revisions make a concious effort to do so. Also, Lembas is called Waybread, which is the bread given to one on their deathbed for your last communion in catholicism. It can almost be compared, the waybread of catholicism is supposed to help you along your journey to heaven. The waybread in Tolkien was also to help upon the most important journey of Frodo's life. It was, in its own way, a sustainer of his life. The Lembas can look however you want it to in your mind, but that is my reasoning as to why I believe in Tolkien's mind, it was probably a lot like a big piece of communion bread. Darius O'Herran __________________ "May the road rise to meet you. May the Wind always be at your back. May rain fall soft upon your fields, and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of his hand." -Celtic Blessing Oh yeah, and FRODO LIVES!!!

02-22-2002, 03:38 PM	#22
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Hey, who mentioned the meaning of lembas?? Make your own thread. Just kidding. Welcome to the 'moot, Darius. Wipe your feet before entering . __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

02-22-2002, 05:49 PM	#23
Kirinki54 Elven Warrior Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: European Union Posts: 463	"In Quenya it was most often named coimas which is 'life-bread'." Of Lembas, PoME. The essay also says lembas was made "for the comfort of those who had need to go upon a long journey in the wild, or of the hurt whose life was in peril". __________________ 'They need more gardens,' said Legolas. 'The houses are dead, and there is too little here that grows and is glad. If Aragorn comes into his own, the people of the Wood shall bring him birds that sing and trees that do not die.'

02-22-2002, 07:37 PM	#24
aldesign Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Uk Posts: 447	Nibs Quote: Yeah, huh! I don't have my book with me, Aldesign, but one of the elves explicitly says to keep them in their leaf wrappings so they can last a while. Not to tear you down or anything . End Quote Huh? i never said they didnt come in leaves. Cram, no idea __________________ The funniest story on the net, made by entmoot fanatics, visit it @ FOTMB.com FRODO LIVES!! GET FREE AVATARS HERE!

02-22-2002, 09:45 PM	#25
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Wow, wow... you're right and I'm sorry... I imagined there was a "don't" inserted into your sentence... mea culpa. It's a good thing I didn't make it a scathing diatribe... I'd have been char-broiled by now. I'm sorry... I was beaten with nunchukas as a child... __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

02-22-2002, 10:52 PM	#26
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	http://www.elfenomeno.com/peliculas/...mag.php?id=997 This is a picture of Lembas from the film. But if they cut it, what will Sam and Frodo, Merry and Pippin, and the Three Hunters (Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli) eat in the next movies? __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

02-22-2002, 11:36 PM	#27
Evenstar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Neverneverland Posts: 215	I know!!! Them leaving out Lembas is like them leaving out the gifts!!! If it weren't for Lembas...I'm sure that someone would have passed out before the end...but that's just me!!! __________________ "Frodo, Mr Frodo," he called. "Don't leave me here alone. It's your Sam calling. Don't you go where I can't follow." FRODO LIVES !!!!

02-22-2002, 11:48 PM	#28
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	I guess since they left out the gifts, there will be no mallorn tree in the Shire. Grrr. They'll all starve to death in the next movie! Silly Peter Jackson. Oh well. BTW, I always imagined Lembas to be sort of light yellowy-corn flour-coloured wafers about 1/4 inch thick, slightly crumbly, and round. A lot like flat cakes of cornbread. __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

02-23-2002, 06:30 PM	#29
aldesign Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Uk Posts: 447	cool picture, but still dont get to see the actual Lembas, just the fecking leaves! cheers for that pic, nice find anyway. Nibs, ur excused and no, i wouldnt roast u, i know how that feels. and i will personaly Shoot Jackson if he leaves out Lembas andy __________________ The funniest story on the net, made by entmoot fanatics, visit it @ FOTMB.com FRODO LIVES!! GET FREE AVATARS HERE!

02-23-2002, 07:52 PM	#30
mirrille Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 479	Interesting. I never thought of lembas as cookies or oatmeal. I thought of it as fairly thin cream coloured crispy wafers. They're supposed to be sweet right? So I thought of something like a lightly sweet dessert biscuit. The consistency would be much more fine than oatmeal, which is lumpy and more what I think cram would be like. I imagined the leaves would be sort of long like bamboo leaves and dried (therefore dark coloured).

02-23-2002, 10:33 PM	#31
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I shall stick to my twinkie theory Last edited by Rána Eressëa : 02-23-2002 at 10:38 PM.

02-23-2002, 11:28 PM	#32
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	You could always try visiting the Middle-earth recipes thread and make some Lembas of your own. Not that it is remotely what lembas should be like, methinks, but it is good! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

02-24-2002, 03:05 AM	#33
Earenya Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pinnath Gelin, formerly in Angaron... Posts: 228	I agree with most of you- thinish, wafery cookie-crackers, with some sort of texture, similar to a grain based cake. Of course, with whatever appearance, what would it taste like?? __________________ O mor henion i dhu Ely siriar, el sila Ai! Aniron.... Tiro! El eria e mor I 'lir en el luitha 'uren Ai! Aniron... FRODO LIVES!

02-24-2002, 02:32 PM	#34
Renille Elven Lady of Speed-posting Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the cheese state Posts: 988	There are several recipies for lembas in the Middle Earth thread, "Middle Earth Recipies" or something like that. I have yet to try them...I might, I'm not sure... __________________ Oh the thinks you can think! Think and wonder and dream...far and wide as you dare! When your thinks have run dry, in the blink of an eye, there's another world there... (from Seussical the Musical. Listen to it...watch it...really.)

02-24-2002, 04:30 PM	#35
Treebeard's apprentice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 207	I always figured they were sort of like squarish sugar cookies, but with less flavor (As far as I can tell, Middle Earth didn't really have anything like sugar). Flavor is unimportant, though. The main thing is that they supply plenty of nutrition, especially for a pair of Halflings on an Adventure.

02-25-2002, 09:30 PM	#36
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	My lembas is a little like miniature loaves of bread wrapped in leaves. When unwrapped, they have sort of good-tasting flower dust on them, under that, they're brown, and inside, they're white. Oooooh they tase good. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

03-12-2002, 11:55 PM	#37
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	I only hope it doesn't taste like my feeble attempt to make some. __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

03-12-2002, 11:57 PM	#38
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Khadrane, try Tanoliel's latest (I think it's her latest) recipe for lembas on the Middle-earth recipes in the Middle-earth forum. Although I don't think it's quite Lembas, they ARE really good!!!!! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-14-2002, 09:52 PM	#39
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	Okay. Thanks! I think I will! (It can't taste worse than mine...) __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

03-14-2002, 10:08 PM	#40
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	Oh good People should try and make it. The way I talk, Tano ought to hire me to advertise for her. . .I keep telling people to make it! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

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