The Princess Bride - Page 2

05-14-2001, 05:17 AM

I like both the movie and the book, too, but I have to say that if I had to choose one, it would be the book. Yes, the movie is faithful in a lot of ways, but I think the book was a work of genius. Sure, Goldman did both the book and the screenplay, but he originally envisioned the story as a novel, and you can tell. Of course, if you liked the movie more, you could argue that he wrote the screenplay later and therefore probably wrote what he thought was a better version of the story.

I think the backstory on all of the characters in the book is priceless, and the whole end with the Zoo of Death, and the cliffhanger ending.... If you haven't read the book, you've got to. Get the 25th Anniversary Edition if you can. It's even out in paperback now.

I hear they're working on a special edition of the movie on DVD for release in 2002. Apparently Rob Reiner is working on it in between other projects (as well as a special edition of A Few Good Men, another favorite of mine). I can't wait.

And no, there's no Morgenstern, and no, the stuff about Goldman's family isn't true, either. In real life he *was* married to an Ilene (who took a lot of photos of him that were on his books--now they're split up, BTW) and had two daughters (Jenny and I can't remember the other name off the top of my head), not like in the book where he was married to a genius shrink named Helen and a fat son named Jason.

His two daughters were actually his inspiration for the The Princess Bride. He asked them what they wanted him to write about. One said "A princess," and the other said "A bride."

Blah blah blah. I'll shut up now.

C.V.
www.smorgenstern.com

05-15-2001, 12:42 AM

I've seen the movie, but I've not read the book. Does the movie capture the basics of the book pretty well? Oh, and one other question I was thinking of. When the grandfather is reading in the movie, are the lines he usually reads real lines, or are they simply made up for the movie script?

05-15-2001, 12:30 PM

I think it captured the book pretty well. The ending is made happier and the Zoo of Death is dropped altogether. I think the grandfather's lines were from the book for the most part, but this is JMO, since I did'nt go back and do a line by line comparison.

05-26-2001, 09:01 PM

It's my mom's favorite, I think it's kinda funky but cute.I read the movie book (I think)and I think it was interesting.Nothing will ever beat LOTR
Sam

afro-elf · 01-04-2002, 09:13 AM

Its seems that I'm the only dissenter here. My comments are only based on the movie.

I didn't like the movie. I thought it was lite and full of fluff. Sorta like Titanic.

I thought the fight between Wesley and Montayo was cool when I saw it the first time BUT after I saw it again I was throughly disappointed.

However, I like a little more grim realism in my fantasy. That's why I like LOTR I guess.

afro-elf · 01-04-2002, 09:27 AM

Its seems that I'm the only dissenter here. My comments are only based on the movie.

I didn't like the movie. I thought it was light and full of fluff. Sorta like Titanic.

I that the fight between Wesley and Montayo was cool when I saw the first time BUT after I saw it again I throughly disappointed.

However, I like a little more grim realism in my fantasy. That's why I like LOTR I guess.

Alethes · 01-04-2002, 11:01 PM

I haven't read the book, but I've seen the movie and loved it. The only part I don't like (and haven't seen all of for this reason) is the Pit of Depair, because I don't particularly enjoy watching people suffer. But the rest of the movie is hysterical! I like Westley and Inigo Montoya.

Westley: "Hand over the gate key."
Guard: "I have no gate key."
Westley: "Fezzik, break his arms!"
Guard: "Oh, you mean this gate key."

galadriel88 · 01-13-2002, 04:02 PM

I absolutely LOVE this movie!!!!!!! It's hilarious. I've only seen it twice, but I love it anyway. I like the swordfight between Wessley and Montoya, and the "mostly dead" part. Also the rhyming part, and especially the wedding.

"Mahwage is waat bwings aahs togethaah..."

Haven't read the book, but I guess I'll have to!

Eowyn, The Lioness · 01-14-2002, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IronParrot
I have the novel by William Goldman (screenwriter of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid) and discovered that it was actually a shortening of a book of the same title by S. Morgenstern. Does anybody have any idea where I could find the original original?

No, I don't,but if you ever find out where, tell me! I've been looking for a copy for 2 years now!

***HOBBIT*** · 01-14-2002, 08:06 PM

you people are silly....ITS A JOKE!!!!! There is no S. Morgenstern..........lol..if you read on you even see that IP admits to this defeat...but he was just being silly too. The 'good parts' version of the Princess Bride is the only thing..there was never an original......

Spock · 01-17-2002, 09:16 PM

The movie just brings it all to life. Mandy P. plays a great part and it was Andre's last movie before he died. I've seen it at least eight times and enjoy it every time. Can't wait to see it again and DVD would be a def. plus.

Griffin · 01-21-2002, 11:38 AM

My favorite quote from the movie:

"Good bye! Have fun storming the castle!"-Miracle Max
"You think it'll work?"-Miracle Max (under his breath)
"It would take a miracle."-Miracle Max's Wife (under her breath)
"GOODBYE!"-Both

Right up there with the brute-squad comment...

and the "To the pain" sequence

Starr Polish · 01-27-2002, 10:28 PM

This is forever my favorite movie. I LOVE it. I haven't read the book yet, but my sister has the 25th Anniversary Edition, and I must steal it from her.

Am I going mad, or did I just hear the word 'think' escape your lips?

INCONCEIVABLE!

emplynx · 02-18-2002, 12:15 AM

I LOVE THE PRINCESS BRIDE!
Hey guys, I used to have a Princess Bride web page (Like 3 or 4 years ago). Soooo.... I did a search to see if I could find it anddd...... http://www.angelfire.com/wv/tHePlAcE/pbride.html
Appearently I was hosting the images off of http://www.angelfire.com/wv/CompuKid which is gone... Sorry. But you might check it out.

Nibs · 02-18-2002, 04:05 AM

Favorite quotes:

"I'm not a witch! I'm your WIFE!!"

"A deul then! To the death!"
"No!! To the pain!"
[pause]
"I'm... not familiar with that"
[Wesley elaborates; I can't remember it all]
"...so that every woman and child will see your wretched body and say 'good gosh, what is that thing'" and so on... trust me, it was funny.

It's been a while since I've seen it... but those remain my favorites.

ryan · 02-19-2002, 04:34 AM

OH MY GOD I LOVED THE PART WHERE JACK KiLLED MARY SUE AND DRUG HER CORPSE FOR 4 MILES INTO THE HOUSE WHERE JOHN AND ARTHUR SAT WAITING WITH THE GUN AND BLEW HIS HEAD OFF, IT WAS SO MOVING AND SCARY IN THE MOVIE!

Just another uneducated post. Danke.

Ozymandias · 02-25-2002, 12:14 AM

Riiiiiiiiiight....

Eowyn, The Lioness · 02-25-2002, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HOBBIT
you people are silly....ITS A JOKE!!!!! There is no S. Morgenstern..........lol..if you read on you even see that IP admits to this defeat...but he was just being silly too. The 'good parts' version of the Princess Bride is the only thing..there was never an original......

Your kidding?! ROFL!!!!! Well, I'm an idiot! That's too funny! I almost fell off my chair! LOL!! Huh! I guess I can stop scouring the internet for a copy of that then! LOL!!!!!!

galadriel88 · 02-25-2002, 09:47 PM

hey guys, I saw the DVD @ Wal Mart the other day for $15! Now I have to go get it!
*runs and begs her mom to drive her to the store* "But you need groceries,don't you?...."

***Tessar*** · 02-26-2002, 10:52 AM

awwwwwwwww... dont say things like that. I have three other people to carry, he's got only himself.

I will not except excuses!!!

and so I can CLEARLY not choose the one that is infront of ME!

(still that has nothing on the court jester with the flagon with the dragon and the other two cups

)

05-14-2001, 05:17 AM	#21
smorgenstern Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Princess Bride I like both the movie and the book, too, but I have to say that if I had to choose one, it would be the book. Yes, the movie is faithful in a lot of ways, but I think the book was a work of genius. Sure, Goldman did both the book and the screenplay, but he originally envisioned the story as a novel, and you can tell. Of course, if you liked the movie more, you could argue that he wrote the screenplay later and therefore probably wrote what he thought was a better version of the story. I think the backstory on all of the characters in the book is priceless, and the whole end with the Zoo of Death, and the cliffhanger ending.... If you haven't read the book, you've got to. Get the 25th Anniversary Edition if you can. It's even out in paperback now. I hear they're working on a special edition of the movie on DVD for release in 2002. Apparently Rob Reiner is working on it in between other projects (as well as a special edition of A Few Good Men, another favorite of mine). I can't wait. And no, there's no Morgenstern, and no, the stuff about Goldman's family isn't true, either. In real life he was married to an Ilene (who took a lot of photos of him that were on his books--now they're split up, BTW) and had two daughters (Jenny and I can't remember the other name off the top of my head), not like in the book where he was married to a genius shrink named Helen and a fat son named Jason. His two daughters were actually his inspiration for the The Princess Bride. He asked them what they wanted him to write about. One said "A princess," and the other said "A bride." Blah blah blah. I'll shut up now. C.V. www.smorgenstern.com

05-15-2001, 12:42 AM	#22
Lief Erikson Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Princess Bride I've seen the movie, but I've not read the book. Does the movie capture the basics of the book pretty well? Oh, and one other question I was thinking of. When the grandfather is reading in the movie, are the lines he usually reads real lines, or are they simply made up for the movie script?

05-15-2001, 12:30 PM	#23
X Rogue Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The Princess Bride I think it captured the book pretty well. The ending is made happier and the Zoo of Death is dropped altogether. I think the grandfather's lines were from the book for the most part, but this is JMO, since I did'nt go back and do a line by line comparison.

05-26-2001, 09:01 PM	#24
Samwise of the shire Guest Posts: n/a	I like the Movie It's my mom's favorite, I think it's kinda funky but cute.I read the movie book (I think)and I think it was interesting.Nothing will ever beat LOTR Sam

01-04-2002, 09:13 AM	#25
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Its seems that I'm the only dissenter here. My comments are only based on the movie. I didn't like the movie. I thought it was lite and full of fluff. Sorta like Titanic. I thought the fight between Wesley and Montayo was cool when I saw it the first time BUT after I saw it again I was throughly disappointed. However, I like a little more grim realism in my fantasy. That's why I like LOTR I guess. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 01-04-2002 at 09:15 AM.

01-04-2002, 09:27 AM	#26
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Its seems that I'm the only dissenter here. My comments are only based on the movie. I didn't like the movie. I thought it was light and full of fluff. Sorta like Titanic. I that the fight between Wesley and Montayo was cool when I saw the first time BUT after I saw it again I throughly disappointed. However, I like a little more grim realism in my fantasy. That's why I like LOTR I guess. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-04-2002, 11:01 PM	#27
Alethes Enting Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: urban Oklahoma Posts: 73	I haven't read the book, but I've seen the movie and loved it. The only part I don't like (and haven't seen all of for this reason) is the Pit of Depair, because I don't particularly enjoy watching people suffer. But the rest of the movie is hysterical! I like Westley and Inigo Montoya. Westley: "Hand over the gate key." Guard: "I have no gate key." Westley: "Fezzik, break his arms!" Guard: "Oh, you mean this gate key." __________________ He who loves a pure heart and whose speech is gracious will have the king for his friend. -Proverbs 22:11

01-13-2002, 04:02 PM	#28
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	Princess Bride I absolutely LOVE this movie!!!!!!! It's hilarious. I've only seen it twice, but I love it anyway. I like the swordfight between Wessley and Montoya, and the "mostly dead" part. Also the rhyming part, and especially the wedding. "Mahwage is waat bwings aahs togethaah..." Haven't read the book, but I guess I'll have to! __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

01-14-2002, 08:06 PM	#30
*HOBBIT* Saviour of Entmoot Admiral Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NC/NJ (no longer Same place as bmilder.) Posts: 61,986	you people are silly....ITS A JOKE!!!!! There is no S. Morgenstern..........lol..if you read on you even see that IP admits to this defeat...but he was just being silly too. The 'good parts' version of the Princess Bride is the only thing..there was never an original...... __________________ President Emeritus (2000-2004) Private message (or email) me if you need any assistance. I am here to help! "I'm up to here with cool, ok? I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox Latest Blog Post: Just Quit Facebook? No One Cares!

01-17-2002, 09:16 PM	#31
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	The movie just brings it all to life. Mandy P. plays a great part and it was Andre's last movie before he died. I've seen it at least eight times and enjoy it every time. Can't wait to see it again and DVD would be a def. plus. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

01-21-2002, 11:38 AM	#32
Griffin Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 27	Fave Quote :D My favorite quote from the movie: "Good bye! Have fun storming the castle!"-Miracle Max "You think it'll work?"-Miracle Max (under his breath) "It would take a miracle."-Miracle Max's Wife (under her breath) "GOODBYE!"-Both Right up there with the brute-squad comment... and the "To the pain" sequence

01-27-2002, 10:28 PM	#33
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	This is forever my favorite movie. I LOVE it. I haven't read the book yet, but my sister has the 25th Anniversary Edition, and I must steal it from her. Am I going mad, or did I just hear the word 'think' escape your lips? INCONCEIVABLE! __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

02-18-2002, 12:15 AM	#34
emplynx Self-Appointed Lord of the Free Peoples of the General Messages Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,214	I LOVE THE PRINCESS BRIDE! Hey guys, I used to have a Princess Bride web page (Like 3 or 4 years ago). Soooo.... I did a search to see if I could find it anddd...... http://www.angelfire.com/wv/tHePlAcE/pbride.html Appearently I was hosting the images off of http://www.angelfire.com/wv/CompuKid which is gone... Sorry. But you might check it out.

02-18-2002, 04:05 AM	#35
Nibs Head Hollara Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 751	Favorite quotes: "I'm not a witch! I'm your WIFE!!" "A deul then! To the death!" "No!! To the pain!" [pause] "I'm... not familiar with that" [Wesley elaborates; I can't remember it all] "...so that every woman and child will see your wretched body and say 'good gosh, what is that thing'" and so on... trust me, it was funny. It's been a while since I've seen it... but those remain my favorites. __________________ "People used to ring up and say 'Don't quit your day job' or 'sell your synth', but the joke's on them: we were fired and the synth is broken!" -John Flansburgh from They Might Be Giants Ever heard of Mormons? I'm one. Click here to know more about us.

02-19-2002, 04:34 AM	#36
ryan t2t relic Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 531	OH MY GOD I LOVED THE PART WHERE JACK KiLLED MARY SUE AND DRUG HER CORPSE FOR 4 MILES INTO THE HOUSE WHERE JOHN AND ARTHUR SAT WAITING WITH THE GUN AND BLEW HIS HEAD OFF, IT WAS SO MOVING AND SCARY IN THE MOVIE! Just another uneducated post. Danke. __________________ "And the Lord spoke, "Send me your money, Empty thine wallets into my pockets my pockets, the pockets of Ryan, Ryan, he who will deliver the money unto me. Then you will truley be happy." And the people followed, and all was well." --Ryan 62:33

02-25-2002, 12:14 AM	#37
Ozymandias Hobbit Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 20	Riiiiiiiiiight....

02-25-2002, 09:47 PM	#39
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	hey guys, I saw the DVD @ Wal Mart the other day for $15! Now I have to go get it! runs and begs her mom to drive her to the store "But you need groceries,don't you?...." __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

02-26-2002, 10:52 AM	#40
*Tessar* Master and Wielder of the Cardboard Harp of Gondor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: IM IN UR POSTZ, EDITIN' UR WURDZ Posts: 6,433	awwwwwwwww... dont say things like that. I have three other people to carry, he's got only himself. I will not except excuses!!! and so I can CLEARLY not choose the one that is infront of ME! (still that has nothing on the court jester with the flagon with the dragon and the other two cups )

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