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06-04-2004, 01:13 PM
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AngAdan
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Two principal themes of breek tragedy, hubirs and a fall from an exalted condition are show twice (and more) in Turin, in the episode in Doriath, and in Nargothrond.
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06-04-2004, 04:47 PM
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Fëanorophobic
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About slaves who spent their lives serving Morgoth: These were taken as prisoners in a war, but when you're contemplating a man who is apparently "free" you wonder why he suffers so much... I hope I made some sense up there (it's 12:45 a.m. here)  |
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06-05-2004, 02:11 PM
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Queen of Nargothrond
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"Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide |
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06-05-2004, 02:34 PM
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. |
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06-05-2004, 02:56 PM
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Fëanor - Innocence incarnated Still, Aikanáro 'till the Last battle. |
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06-05-2004, 03:05 PM
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"Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide |
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06-08-2004, 03:49 PM
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Fëanorophobic
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06-09-2004, 03:26 PM
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Are you suggesting that the gift of Ilúvatar to men to shape their own fates could be altered by Morgoth? Quote:
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. |
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06-10-2004, 05:45 AM
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06-10-2004, 05:57 AM
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As to Morgoth having more purpose for Glaurung, I don't doubt it (after all, I posted it  ) but I think that he saw Turin's doom important enough to sacrifice Glaurung's life. Want proof of this importance? Morgoth went out of his way to punish Hurin and curse his family while he was busy with a full-scale war that threatened him.Quote:
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08-11-2004, 01:46 PM
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