Time Warp Castings for LOTR - Page 2

Beruthiel's cat · 05-27-2004, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Valandil
Oooo... who could John Wayne be? And last night, I thought it would be nice to use Yul Brynner... but again, I wasn't sure for whom.

I don't know about John Wayne...I don't see him as either Aragorn or an elf. Maybe Theoden...

Yul Brynner?? How about having him play Denethor???

***Valandil*** · 05-27-2004, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Beruthiel's cat
I don't know about John Wayne...I don't see him as either Aragorn or an elf. Maybe Theoden...

Yul Brynner?? How about having him play Denethor???

John Wayne for Imrahil??

Beruthiel's cat · 05-27-2004, 01:15 PM

You're still stinging from Imrahil getting cut in the movies, aren't you, Val??? Still, I can't see John Wayne pulling it off...I see Imrahil more as a Brian Blessed type (he's a British character actor -- played Marian's father in "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves")

***Valandil*** · 05-27-2004, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Beruthiel's cat
You're still stinging from Imrahil getting cut in the movies, aren't you, Val??? Still, I can't see John Wayne pulling it off...I see Imrahil more as a Brian Blessed type (he's a British character actor -- played Marian's father in "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves")

Oh no... I knew cuts had to be made... and Imrahil probably made sense... unless you want to add enough to have a 7-8 hour movie (which some of us here would like, but which wouldn't make box office / production sense). As the idea of 'time-warp casting' is fantasy anyway, I think we can include all characters.

No - John Wayne is not REALLY the image I had of Imrahil anyway... just trying to work him in... Halbarad?

BeardofPants · 05-27-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Beruthiel's cat
You're still stinging from Imrahil getting cut in the movies, aren't you, Val??? Still, I can't see John Wayne pulling it off...I see Imrahil more as a Brian Blessed type (he's a British character actor -- played Marian's father in "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves")

Hahaha! Blessed was way funny in Black Adder.

Anyway, I can totally see Richard Burton as Elrond.

paulbaggins · 05-28-2004, 09:35 PM

I am not sure that casting these actors of another era is right . They were giants in their day . I mean who'd direct ? John Ford ?

***Valandil*** · 06-01-2004, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by paulbaggins
I am not sure that casting these actors of another era is right . They were giants in their day . I mean who'd direct ? John Ford ?

Why not the best? Alfred Hitchcock!

Beruthiel's cat · 06-01-2004, 09:49 AM

...or Frank Capra for a little whimsy... (perhaps he'd do better with The Hobbit...)

***Valandil*** · 06-07-2004, 09:35 AM

I'm trying to think where we could use that one actor from some time back... Ronald Reagan or something? Doesn't have to be a MAJOR role or anything... but maybe Halbarad? Or Mablung or Damron? Or Benedril... oh wait, don't have my books and I'm having a mind-blank, who's that soldier who shows Pippin around?

Or - do you guys think he should get a more major role? Denethor?

Flipping channels this weekend I saw a few minutes of an old Tarzan movie. Johnny Weismuller had quite the physique... and wasn't ugly either. Do we have a good Dunedain role for him? He didn't naturally talk like that either ('Me Tarzan, you Jane' kind of thing!

).

Beruthiel's cat · 06-07-2004, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Valandil
...Or Benedril... oh wait, don't have my books and I'm having a mind-blank, who's that soldier who shows Pippin around?

Benedril?? Wasn't he the Allergist of Gondor???

Beregond was the guy you're thinking about. I can see Reagan as Denethor...a pretty good choice, actually.

mithrand1r · 06-07-2004, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Valandil
I'm trying to think where we could use that one actor from some time back... Ronald Reagan or something? Doesn't have to be a MAJOR role or anything... but maybe Halbarad? Or Mablung or Damron? Or Benedril... oh wait, don't have my books and I'm having a mind-blank, who's that soldier who shows Pippin around?

Or - do you guys think he should get a more major role? Denethor?

Flipping channels this weekend I saw a few minutes of an old Tarzan movie. Johnny Weismuller had quite the physique... and wasn't ugly either. Do we have a good Dunedain role for him? He didn't naturally talk like that either ('Me Tarzan, you Jane' kind of thing! ).

The movie "My Man Godfrey" (1936) has an excellent actor William Powell. He has a wide range of acting ability. He could easily play a noble or a ranger.

Grey_Wolf · 06-12-2004, 01:26 PM

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Mrs Maggot · 06-17-2004, 02:20 AM

OOOHHH! Not meaning to be disrespectful cos I know he's just passed on, just a thought, but couldn't we have Ronald Reagan in it somewhere?

Rosie Gamgee · 06-17-2004, 09:44 AM

These are so funny!
Here's a few:

Audrey Hepburn as Arwen- she's just got that smooth, gentle beauty of an elf;

Ingred Bergman as Eowyn- she's that tough-cookie type, perfect for the disparing-over-lost-love-by-going-to-die-in-battle role;

Walter Brennan as Tom Bombadil (or maybe Bilbo?

)- great guy! I can just see him singing the derry-dols!

Yul Brenner (why do I think I'm spelling that wrong?) as Boromir- come on! He'd be great!

Gary Cooper as Gandalf- okay, a little unconventional, but he's got that twinkle in his eyes, that quick-to-anger but also jolly way about him;

Leon Ames as Elrond or Denethor- I couldn't resist. He'd be so... Leon Ames!

And Maureen O'Hara as Rose Cotton- "Well now that you've wasted a year of your life...."

Firey Irish-lass- gotta love her.

***Valandil*** · 06-17-2004, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Eärniel
Well, if they ever show old movies with him again on TV, I'll do just that.

Last night I couldn't sleep - turned on the tube and The Big Country was on. Great movie - and I had never seen it all the way through. Stars Gregory Peck, Charlton Heston and Burle Ives - and features Chuck Connors (I think that's his name - from old TV show The Rifleman). THAT movie would give you a good idea of what Peck was like when young enough to portray Aragorn... just confirmed my previous notions. Rent it if you want to check it out.

Heston is good as always... and I started wondering about Connors - he shows more in that movie than he did in the TV shows, I think - though his character is a bit unsavory (maybe a great Boromir?).

The Yul Bryner idea was interesting - but how about Denethor? Mrs. Maggot - we were already talking about Reagan - even possibly as Denethor. I even wondered about Patrick Stewart as Denethor ("Make it so!").

Can anyone see Burle Ives as Tom Bombadil? He'd sure have the singing part down (as well as the physique!).

Rosie Gamgee · 06-17-2004, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Valandil
Heston is good as always... and I started wondering about Connors - he shows more in that movie than he did in the TV shows, I think - though his character is a bit unsavory (maybe a great Boromir?).

WHAT?! Oh, no! not him! You must forgive me, but Heston is one of the worst actors on the planet, IMHO. To see HIM playing one of my favorite characters would be adequate cause for a nervous break-down.

Um, Burl IVES??!! Are you sure? Somehow I really don't think Goldberry would see anything in Burl Ives

Or maybe I've got too much singing-snowman in my head "... but do you recall, the most famous reindeer of allllll.... RUDOLPH THE RED-NOSED REINDEER!..." *starts going crazy*

Mrs Maggot · 06-20-2004, 05:50 AM

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Mrs. Maggot - we were already talking about Reagan - even possibly as Denethor.

Ooh sorry, didn't see that! Must be more conscientious and not skim-read in future. He would be a really good Denethor. A politician's LotR could be interesting too… with Churchill as Gandalf!

Last Child of Ungoliant · 07-13-2004, 12:00 PM

a younger Lord Attenborough as bilbo
audrey hepburn as arwen (in book, NOT PJ movie role!!

)
christopher lee still as saruman
bela lugosi as ugluk
james dean as eomer
marilyn monroe as eowyn (she'd have to tone down her accent!)
donald sutherland as theoden
leonard nimoy as radagast
a younger sir ian holm as frodo
patrick stewart as celeborn or gandalf

Last Child of Ungoliant · 07-13-2004, 01:37 PM

peter o'toole as denethor
yul brynner as elrond
brigit bardeau (sp?) as galadriel
charles harris as elrond
brian blessed would have to be there somewhere
(shame beorn doesn't come into lotr

)

i would say Leslie Grantham for Faramir,
just to hear him say "'Ello Princess!" to Eowyn!!

***IronParrot*** · 07-22-2004, 01:30 PM

I don't know what you guys see in Charlton Heston. Way, way too American for the role.

The first actor from the past I would put in LOTR is Laurence Olivier. Probably as Elrond, but he also works as Saruman, Gandalf or even the voice of Treebeard. Olivier, in everything from his Shakespearean work to the likes of Spartacus, was a legendary presence and would be a perfect fit in Tolkien.

Audrey Hepburn as Arwen? That would be a dream come true - those of you who suggested that are absolutely on the ball.

As for Eowyn, Diana Rigg immediately comes to mind, though she has dark hair.

Saruman could be one of many classic Avengers villains. I still think Christopher Lee would be the best, but one could imagine Michael Gough or Peter Cushing in the role for sure.

Peter Lorre as the voice of Gollum, of course.

If you give Saruman, Gandalf or Treebeard to Olivier, then give Elrond to Marlon Brando.

Omar Sharif as Aragorn. I kid thee not.

Humphrey Bogart as Frodo.

05-27-2004, 01:15 PM	#23
Beruthiel's cat mystical divinity of Unashamed Felinity Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New York's beautiful North Coast -- we're all mad here!!! Posts: 635	You're still stinging from Imrahil getting cut in the movies, aren't you, Val??? Still, I can't see John Wayne pulling it off...I see Imrahil more as a Brian Blessed type (he's a British character actor -- played Marian's father in "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves") __________________ "Never try to out-stubborn a cat!" -- R. Heinlein ~~~~~~~~~ "But I don't want to be among mad people, " Alice remarked. "Oh, but you can't help that," said the Cat; "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." ~~ Lewis Carroll ~~~~~~~~~~~ Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana... Last edited by Beruthiel's cat : 05-27-2004 at 01:16 PM.

05-28-2004, 09:35 PM	#26
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06-01-2004, 09:49 AM	#28
Beruthiel's cat mystical divinity of Unashamed Felinity Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New York's beautiful North Coast -- we're all mad here!!! Posts: 635	...or Frank Capra for a little whimsy... (perhaps he'd do better with The Hobbit...) __________________ "Never try to out-stubborn a cat!" -- R. Heinlein ~~~~~~~~~ "But I don't want to be among mad people, " Alice remarked. "Oh, but you can't help that," said the Cat; "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here." ~~ Lewis Carroll ~~~~~~~~~~~ Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana...

06-07-2004, 09:35 AM	#29
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	I'm trying to think where we could use that one actor from some time back... Ronald Reagan or something? Doesn't have to be a MAJOR role or anything... but maybe Halbarad? Or Mablung or Damron? Or Benedril... oh wait, don't have my books and I'm having a mind-blank, who's that soldier who shows Pippin around? Or - do you guys think he should get a more major role? Denethor? Flipping channels this weekend I saw a few minutes of an old Tarzan movie. Johnny Weismuller had quite the physique... and wasn't ugly either. Do we have a good Dunedain role for him? He didn't naturally talk like that either ('Me Tarzan, you Jane' kind of thing! ). __________________ My Fanfic: Letters of Firiel Tales of Nolduryon Visitors Come to Court Ñ á ë ?* ó ú é ä ï ö Ö ñ É Þ ð ß ® ™ [Xurl=Xhttp://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=ABCXYZ#postABCXYZ]text[/Xurl] Splitting Threads is SUCH Hard Work!!

06-17-2004, 02:20 AM	#33
Mrs Maggot Enting Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Shire…Ok, western Sydney … & proud of it Posts: 85	OOOHHH! Not meaning to be disrespectful cos I know he's just passed on, just a thought, but couldn't we have Ronald Reagan in it somewhere? __________________ Anyone looking for some mushrooms?

06-12-2004, 01:26 PM	#32
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06-17-2004, 09:44 AM	#34
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	These are so funny! Here's a few: Audrey Hepburn as Arwen- she's just got that smooth, gentle beauty of an elf; Ingred Bergman as Eowyn- she's that tough-cookie type, perfect for the disparing-over-lost-love-by-going-to-die-in-battle role; Walter Brennan as Tom Bombadil (or maybe Bilbo?)- great guy! I can just see him singing the derry-dols! Yul Brenner (why do I think I'm spelling that wrong?) as Boromir- come on! He'd be great! Gary Cooper as Gandalf- okay, a little unconventional, but he's got that twinkle in his eyes, that quick-to-anger but also jolly way about him; Leon Ames as Elrond or Denethor- I couldn't resist. He'd be so... Leon Ames! And Maureen O'Hara as Rose Cotton- "Well now that you've wasted a year of your life...." Firey Irish-lass- gotta love her. __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year!

07-13-2004, 12:00 PM	#38
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	a younger Lord Attenborough as bilbo audrey hepburn as arwen (in book, NOT PJ movie role!! ) christopher lee still as saruman bela lugosi as ugluk james dean as eomer marilyn monroe as eowyn (she'd have to tone down her accent!) donald sutherland as theoden leonard nimoy as radagast a younger sir ian holm as frodo patrick stewart as celeborn or gandalf Last edited by Last Child of Ungoliant : 07-13-2004 at 12:03 PM.

07-13-2004, 01:37 PM	#39
Last Child of Ungoliant The Intermittent One Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: here and there Posts: 4,671	peter o'toole as denethor yul brynner as elrond brigit bardeau (sp?) as galadriel charles harris as elrond brian blessed would have to be there somewhere (shame beorn doesn't come into lotr ) i would say Leslie Grantham for Faramir, just to hear him say "'Ello Princess!" to Eowyn!! Last edited by Last Child of Ungoliant : 07-13-2004 at 02:00 PM.

07-22-2004, 01:30 PM	#40
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	I don't know what you guys see in Charlton Heston. Way, way too American for the role. The first actor from the past I would put in LOTR is Laurence Olivier. Probably as Elrond, but he also works as Saruman, Gandalf or even the voice of Treebeard. Olivier, in everything from his Shakespearean work to the likes of Spartacus, was a legendary presence and would be a perfect fit in Tolkien. Audrey Hepburn as Arwen? That would be a dream come true - those of you who suggested that are absolutely on the ball. As for Eowyn, Diana Rigg immediately comes to mind, though she has dark hair. Saruman could be one of many classic Avengers villains. I still think Christopher Lee would be the best, but one could imagine Michael Gough or Peter Cushing in the role for sure. Peter Lorre as the voice of Gollum, of course. If you give Saruman, Gandalf or Treebeard to Olivier, then give Elrond to Marlon Brando. Omar Sharif as Aragorn. I kid thee not. Humphrey Bogart as Frodo. __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

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