04-15-2002, 03:04 PM | #1 |
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when Valinor...
I was wondering what will happen to Valinor if the elves when they will increase and when they will flood Valinor?
I can't imagine this but I'm sure it will happen sooner/later Valinor. but of course, if Valinor is bigger then Middle Earth maiby it won't happen... don't know. |
04-15-2002, 09:34 PM | #2 |
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I am not quite sure I understand.
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04-15-2002, 09:56 PM | #3 |
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I think he means overcrowding. I think of this occasionally as it refers to ME. If the elves were immortal, wouldn't there eventually be a lot of overpopulation if Melkor's armies hadn't been there for population control? I mean, was the gestation period or "mating" times (forgive the vulgarity) different for elves so that they didn't populate as quickly? This is just something I've mused about.
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04-15-2002, 10:01 PM | #4 |
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Well, Elves did not wed or bare children in times of war. They also revolved around family, but they were not high producers of offspring. Feanor had the most children with 7.
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04-16-2002, 12:56 AM | #5 |
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Valinor is (or was) by no means larger than Middle-earth. I imagine after a certain point, like in Middle-earth, the Elves would simply stop producing children.
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04-16-2002, 05:03 PM | #6 |
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I don't think the elves will stop to produce children. they just won't stop. even one child to every family.
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04-16-2002, 05:33 PM | #7 |
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So why would the Elves still be producing children in Valinor? Anyway, I thought they went to Aman. What was the total population of the Elves in Middle Earth(or Valinor)? I mean, the Host of the lordsof the Weest was only 6000 strong, starting at like 7000. The numbers of elves shouldn't be that large one would think. Plus they are really longlived. Their "year" I think is roughly 144 of our years, with subsequent prolongation of generation time. What if they had so many children(not that many really) cecause they were dying off? It seems as if during that time period they were in a stage 1 demographic society and then after they got to Aman or Valinor they went directly to stage 4(post industrial with negligible oor nonexistent growth)
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04-16-2002, 07:18 PM | #8 |
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I began a similar thread a while back, and the only answer is, there is no answer. Sure, with the low reproduction rate of elves, overcrowding not going to be an enormous problem right away, but considering they have the rest of time to reproduce, soon enough you're going to have a heck of a lot of elves.
Maybe Aman is just very, very big.
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I wonder what the children elves did during the slaying of the Teleri at Alqualonde.
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04-16-2002, 08:54 PM | #11 |
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And for that matter, I wonder how they did on the entire journey back from Valinor. That would heve been very hard. It would be nice to see the whole thing dramatized, showing entire elf families being affected by Feanor's actions, etc. But as others said in that thread, it would be a huge undertaking and probably not as well received as LotR.
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