Narsil in TTT?

Mithrandir · 01-30-2002, 01:21 PM

Ok, they never showed in the movie FOTR the sword Narsil being reforged into Andúril. Does anyone know or has anyone heard that they are going to show it in TTT? Like when Aragorn meets Éomer, will he then pull it out and announce that it has been reforged and here it is?

Lightice · 01-30-2002, 03:10 PM

He gets it, when he leaves to the Paths of the Dead. It's brought by either Halbard or Arwen, or perhaps both. That isn't yet known, but it is known, that that is the time when he gets it.

Mithrandir · 01-30-2002, 03:25 PM

Oh, so its completely different from the original version in the book, when he already has Anduril in Chapter 2, The Riders of Rohan.

Come on PJ, stick to the story

luinilwen · 02-01-2002, 01:40 AM

well it is completely different. aragorn always kept narsil with him refer to chapter 10 book I (strider). narsil is reforged as anduril at rivendell and he takes it with him. in the movie narsil resides at rivendell and remains there, probably until arwen brings it to him in TT. i bet there will be no halbarad, no eladan and elrohir, no roheryn and possibly no standard (that's my guess).

i think there was already a thread on this...

bropous · 02-01-2002, 04:17 PM

But wasn't the sword which Aragorn puts his hand on when Boromir picks up the Ring on the shoulders of Caradhras actually Narsil? Hilts looked the same. And if they have Arwen travel down to Rohan to bring Aragorn the reforged Anduril I am gonna HURL!!!! If they do have her bring it down, then what's to stop them from having her accompany him on his trek through the Paths of the Dead, and what's to stop them having her at the helm of one of the ships of the Corsairs sailing up the Anduin at the climax of the Battle of Pelennor Fields?

And beyond that, what's to stop them from having her accompany the army to the Morannon, and making smart-arsed comments to the Mouth of Sauron?

No, no, no, please no more Arwen than we already got and what Tolkien wrote, Mr. Jackson!!!! No more tampering with the story!!!

markedel · 02-01-2002, 04:26 PM

One must admit having her and eowyn wrestling in a pit of jello for aragorn's heart would be interesting

Sakata · 02-03-2002, 02:17 AM

LOL LOL!!! Thats Hilarious markedel ! but seriously, no more book butchring for now...mental picture of of arwen shouting "bring it on mortal $%#$" the eowyn saying "hey i'm the nazgul slayer here!" "Your a sleezy cross-dresser" with all the armys of Rohan chanting cat-fight, cat-fight...

Hapira_Brandybuck · 02-03-2002, 10:00 AM

In one of the behnd the scenes things, they had th swordsmith guy( what was his name?) holding up Aragorn's sowrd and he says "this is the sword Aragorn has before he gets Narsil" so he does get it.... just dunno when

Starbreeze · 02-03-2002, 12:13 PM

It would be good to see more of Narsil though.

luinilwen · 02-06-2002, 09:10 AM

well if aragorn DOES have narsil after they leave rivendell, why the HELL don't they bother to mention that?!?!?!? a little "hey elrond, ya reckon you could fix me knife?" wouldn't go astray, would it????

if i hadn't read the books i wouldn't have had a CLUE what was going on in the movie and i pity the poor sods who have seen this movie without having any clue of the plot line. *sigh*

Twilight · 02-06-2002, 09:41 AM

I don't think that it would have taken much time at all for jsut one or two lines about getting it reforged. Even if Aragorn just told Arwen that was something that he wanted to happen. They spent a good bit of time on Narcil. They did a good job with the shards being in Rivendel instead of with Aragorn, but I see no reason why it couldn't have been reforged the way it was in the book.

Gerbil · 02-06-2002, 09:45 AM

Just as an aside, would people stop quoting the completely innaccurate 'factoid' that Aragorn ALWAYS carried Narsil around with him?

He didn't. He just did SOMETIMES.

He did during LotR, but this is not 'all of the time', Tolkien has explicitly said he didn't always carry it around.

Lightice · 02-06-2002, 09:46 AM

There's propably some reason for it, but we don't yet know, what it is. Perhaps it's a reason to get Arwen shown again...

***IronParrot*** · 02-23-2002, 02:03 AM

At the Brentano's event this weekend, PJ confirmed that Narsil will be reforged into Anduril at the beginning of ROTK.

If there's any problem with this other than the fact that it's different from the novel, could somebody please point it out?

Evenstar · 02-23-2002, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bropous
And if they have Arwen travel down to Rohan to bring Aragorn the reforged Anduril I am gonna HURL!!!!

You really don't want Arwen in this movie do you!!! No one seems to!!! It's funny!!

Quote:

If they do have her bring it down, then what's to stop them from having her accompany him on his trek through the Paths of the Dead, and what's to stop them having her at the helm of one of the ships of the Corsairs sailing up the Anduin at the climax of the Battle of Pelennor Fields?

If this happens I will cry!!! I'll threaten to walk out on the movie!!! I won't but I can threaten to!!!

Quote:

No, no, no, please no more Arwen than we already got and what Tolkien wrote, Mr. Jackson!!!! No more tampering with the story!!!

Hear, hear!!!

coolismo · 02-23-2002, 04:54 AM

Narsil will be reforged as the opening scene of ROTK since PJ thinks

1. It makes sense to have the reforging as a preface scene to ROTK rather like the one ring preface to FOTR. I wouldn't be surprised if the reforging happens after a reprise of the one ring preface.

2. Aragorn would look silly whipping out a broken sword and the audience would just have giggled. So why not just delay the whole reforging to make a continuity link to the return of the heir of Isildur.

It's another compromise with the book but heck. Aragorn is not ready to be king apparently in the film anyway.

***Earniel*** · 02-24-2002, 01:55 PM

Drat, I LIKED narsil/anduril!! If they going to do it in the third film, they have to skip all those references to it during the Two Towers. It would be a mayor let-down. Just hope it doesn't happen... I WANT to see that movie!

Twilight · 02-24-2002, 08:17 PM

I wish that they could have gotten it to him earlyer. I guess it will be okay giving it at the begining of Return of the King. That would make a really good begining to the movie if they do it right.

01-30-2002, 01:21 PM	#1
Mithrandir Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MA Posts: 39	Narsil in TTT? Ok, they never showed in the movie FOTR the sword Narsil being reforged into Andúril. Does anyone know or has anyone heard that they are going to show it in TTT? Like when Aragorn meets Éomer, will he then pull it out and announce that it has been reforged and here it is? __________________ Frodo Lives!!! spread the word!!

01-30-2002, 03:25 PM	#3
Mithrandir Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MA Posts: 39	Oh, so its completely different from the original version in the book, when he already has Anduril in Chapter 2, The Riders of Rohan. Come on PJ, stick to the story __________________ Frodo Lives!!! spread the word!!

02-01-2002, 04:17 PM	#5
bropous EIDRIORCQWSDAKLMED DCWWTIWOATTOPWFIO Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 1,176	But wasn't the sword which Aragorn puts his hand on when Boromir picks up the Ring on the shoulders of Caradhras actually Narsil? Hilts looked the same. And if they have Arwen travel down to Rohan to bring Aragorn the reforged Anduril I am gonna HURL!!!! If they do have her bring it down, then what's to stop them from having her accompany him on his trek through the Paths of the Dead, and what's to stop them having her at the helm of one of the ships of the Corsairs sailing up the Anduin at the climax of the Battle of Pelennor Fields? And beyond that, what's to stop them from having her accompany the army to the Morannon, and making smart-arsed comments to the Mouth of Sauron? No, no, no, please no more Arwen than we already got and what Tolkien wrote, Mr. Jackson!!!! No more tampering with the story!!! __________________ "...[The Lord of the Rings] is to exemplify most clearly a recurrent theme: the place in 'world politics' of the unforeseen and unforeseeable acts of will, and deeds of virtue of the apparently small, ungreat, fogotten in the places of the Wise and Great (good as well as evil). A moral of the whole (after the primary symbolism of the Ring, as the will to mere power, seeking to make itself objective by physical force and mechanism, and so also inevitably by lies) is the obvious one that without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless." Letters of JRR Tolkien, page 160.

02-01-2002, 04:26 PM	#6
markedel 'Sober' Mullet Frosh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Queen's Posts: 1,245	One must admit having her and eowyn wrestling in a pit of jello for aragorn's heart would be interesting __________________ "Earnur was a man like his father in valour, but not in wisdom"

02-03-2002, 02:17 AM	#7
Sakata Elven Warrior Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 216	LOL LOL!!! Thats Hilarious markedel ! but seriously, no more book butchring for now...mental picture of of arwen shouting "bring it on mortal $%#$" the eowyn saying "hey i'm the nazgul slayer here!" "Your a sleezy cross-dresser" with all the armys of Rohan chanting cat-fight, cat-fight... __________________ "When evil people come to destroy me, when my enemies and foes attack me, they will stumble and fall. Though a mighty army surrounds me, my heart will know no fear." -Psalms 27:2-3 -Dare you venture into Gollum's Lair? JESUS LIVES!

01-30-2002, 03:10 PM	#2
Lightice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 192	He gets it, when he leaves to the Paths of the Dead. It's brought by either Halbard or Arwen, or perhaps both. That isn't yet known, but it is known, that that is the time when he gets it.

02-01-2002, 01:40 AM	#4
luinilwen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney AUSTRALIA Posts: 368	well it is completely different. aragorn always kept narsil with him refer to chapter 10 book I (strider). narsil is reforged as anduril at rivendell and he takes it with him. in the movie narsil resides at rivendell and remains there, probably until arwen brings it to him in TT. i bet there will be no halbarad, no eladan and elrohir, no roheryn and possibly no standard (that's my guess). i think there was already a thread on this...

02-03-2002, 10:00 AM	#8
Hapira_Brandybuck Enting Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NW IN Posts: 75	In one of the behnd the scenes things, they had th swordsmith guy( what was his name?) holding up Aragorn's sowrd and he says "this is the sword Aragorn has before he gets Narsil" so he does get it.... just dunno when __________________ -Hapira Brandybuck 'My dear Frodo!' exclaimed Gandalf. 'Hobbits really are amazing creatures, as I have said before. You can learn all that there is to know about their ways in a month, and yet after a hundred years they can still surprise you at a pinch.

02-03-2002, 12:13 PM	#9
Starbreeze Sapling Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Middle Earth Posts: 12	It would be good to see more of Narsil though. __________________ Ai! Aniron! "Well sir, if I could grow apples like that I would call myself a gardener!" The Spoons ARE coming ~~ Plum coloured pixie of death ~~

02-06-2002, 09:10 AM	#10
luinilwen Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney AUSTRALIA Posts: 368	well if aragorn DOES have narsil after they leave rivendell, why the HELL don't they bother to mention that?!?!?!? a little "hey elrond, ya reckon you could fix me knife?" wouldn't go astray, would it???? if i hadn't read the books i wouldn't have had a CLUE what was going on in the movie and i pity the poor sods who have seen this movie without having any clue of the plot line. sigh

02-06-2002, 09:41 AM	#11
Twilight Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wilmore, KY Posts: 269	I don't think that it would have taken much time at all for jsut one or two lines about getting it reforged. Even if Aragorn just told Arwen that was something that he wanted to happen. They spent a good bit of time on Narcil. They did a good job with the shards being in Rivendel instead of with Aragorn, but I see no reason why it couldn't have been reforged the way it was in the book. __________________ Sometimes I wonder how many monkeys with typewritters it would take to reproduce what I just wrote.

02-06-2002, 09:45 AM	#12
Gerbil Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 797	Just as an aside, would people stop quoting the completely innaccurate 'factoid' that Aragorn ALWAYS carried Narsil around with him? He didn't. He just did SOMETIMES. He did during LotR, but this is not 'all of the time', Tolkien has explicitly said he didn't always carry it around. __________________ Gerbil gerbil@theburrow.co.uk

02-06-2002, 09:46 AM	#13
Lightice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 192	There's propably some reason for it, but we don't yet know, what it is. Perhaps it's a reason to get Arwen shown again...

02-23-2002, 02:03 AM	#14
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	At the Brentano's event this weekend, PJ confirmed that Narsil will be reforged into Anduril at the beginning of ROTK. If there's any problem with this other than the fact that it's different from the novel, could somebody please point it out? __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

02-23-2002, 04:54 AM	#16
coolismo Enting Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: south england Posts: 93	Narsil will be reforged as the opening scene of ROTK since PJ thinks 1. It makes sense to have the reforging as a preface scene to ROTK rather like the one ring preface to FOTR. I wouldn't be surprised if the reforging happens after a reprise of the one ring preface. 2. Aragorn would look silly whipping out a broken sword and the audience would just have giggled. So why not just delay the whole reforging to make a continuity link to the return of the heir of Isildur. It's another compromise with the book but heck. Aragorn is not ready to be king apparently in the film anyway.

02-24-2002, 01:55 PM	#17
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Drat, I LIKED narsil/anduril!! If they going to do it in the third film, they have to skip all those references to it during the Two Towers. It would be a mayor let-down. Just hope it doesn't happen... I WANT to see that movie!

02-24-2002, 08:17 PM	#18
Twilight Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wilmore, KY Posts: 269	I wish that they could have gotten it to him earlyer. I guess it will be okay giving it at the begining of Return of the King. That would make a really good begining to the movie if they do it right. __________________ Sometimes I wonder how many monkeys with typewritters it would take to reproduce what I just wrote.

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