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Old 12-16-2006, 07:53 AM   #41
Landroval
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I think that the quote in question from the Silmarillion can be better understood in the light of this statement from HoME X:
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Originally Posted by Of the severance of marriage, Later Quenta Silmarillion
For Eru is Lord of All, and moveth all the devices of his creatures, even the malice of the Marrer, in his final purposes, but he doth not of his prime motion impose grief upon them.
or, as stated in the letters:
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Free Will is derivative, and is.'. only operative within provided circumstances; but in order that it may exist, it is necessary that the Author should guarantee it, whatever betides : sc. when it is 'against His Will', as we say, at any rate as it appears on a finite view.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:59 PM   #42
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Old 02-05-2007, 01:24 AM   #43
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I have problems seeing hobbits as creatures of Morgoth. ...
Now all the bolded parts represent thoroughly anti-Morgoth qualities, who cultivated in his subjects worshipping of evil, submission, propensity towards Machine and other evil traits.
I don't have ANY problem to see hobbits being created by Melkor.
They have the exact qualities reguired for perfect spies.

On another hand, what made you think that Melkor was promoting evil-worshipping?
Melkor is a part of Eru, his own thoughts. He is the force of nature, which could be destructive, but nevertheless impartial.
According to Tolkien, the world, which Eru has created, doesn't have Good or Evil, and all actions, which we are considering Evil,....would become a part of the World, which is God's and ultimately good. (Letter#151)
So, whatever Melkor was doing, it has been done with Eru's blessing as a counterbalance between two directions of nature, which we call Evil and Good, but which are constantly interchanging.
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