harry potter and the goblet of fire : the film - Page 5

durinsbane2244 · 11-28-2005, 08:57 PM

psst....choco....ok, i thought as soon as i posted that, "hey, maybe choco was just playin along..." but then it was too late...sorry....

anyway, yes, i do think that harry was good, but, apologies, when they did the priori incantatum, he looked kinda silly, hunched over and all with his feet together and such, whereas Voldy looked hardcore, in the fighting stance and one hand and such....oh yea, he's cool...oh, and is he the same actor in PJ's latest flick, KK?

durinsbane2244 · 11-28-2005, 09:24 PM

oh, also, when ron's underwater, he looks like a caveman....just thrown that out there...

Elanor · 11-28-2005, 10:07 PM

I thought the Gillyweed effect was awesome. And I liked that Neville was the one who told Harry about it-- I always wish Neville was more prominent in the books. Then of course the line he says is great. "I've killed Harry Potter!"

durinsbane2244 · 11-28-2005, 10:20 PM

yes, that made me laugh...OH MY GOD! I'VE KILLED HARRY POTTER! in a foolish, british accent...hehe...yes, that was good...i also liked how he never shut up, "well, there is some debate among herbologists about the different effects of saltwater and freshwater..."

emily leonard · 11-30-2005, 01:37 PM

i saw it last night and i waz not happy:
why was barty croch at the riddel house ?
harry sould have woken up at the durslys and been colected by fred and gorge as then we find out about there joke shop and we see what sort of stuff they are aming to do.
the quidich world cup was completly messed up there was ment to be a wood where everbody runs to and mugles for the deatheaters to mess with. and barty crouch jr had to have an invisiblility cloke to hide under in the top box. which they diddent go into hence no winki so there is no s.p.e.u.w and that is esentual to the 5 book as they shoud treet kreacher well so he wouldent go to the malfoyes.
and the other schools do get to hogwarts untill the halloween feast not at the start of term.
i could wright a book on everything that was wrong with it but what got 2 me the most was
: moody being made out as being stupid
: everything being missed out and then they added stuff in where it wasent needed e.g the dragon on the roof thing.
: and they left everything unfinished that realy got to me .

Elanor · 12-01-2005, 03:56 PM

s.p.e.u.w.? What's that, the Society for Protection of Elvish Under Wear?

Sure, all that could have been done, if they wanted to make a movie 5 hours.long...
Trust me, they considered all these things, and they did the best they could.

The Witch-King of Angmar · 12-01-2005, 09:47 PM

I agree they left alot out, but i think they if they had to leave out sub-plots, at least they focussed on the Voldemort plot.

I liked it better than the 3rd movie. They really screwed that up.

Elanor · 12-01-2005, 10:39 PM

Yeah, at least they didn't add in stupid stuff like shrunken heads...

jellyfishannah · 12-02-2005, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elanor

Yeah, at least they didn't add in stupid stuff like shrunken heads...

No kidding!

I went to see Goblet of Fire just the other night. I was very relieved, actually. There were some disappointing things as always but it was much much better than the last one. The 3rd one was almost embarrassing.

It made sense to leave out the s.p.e.w. thing even though leaving anything out makes me sad. Some things in the 4th still bothered me:

1.)They hardly gave Fred and George any of the witty lines that they have in the books. And what about their jokeshop? Ron is supposed to be funny, too but they just make him whiney.

2.) I don't really see why they made Beauxbaton be an all-girls school and Durmstrang an all-boys.

3.)Why didn't they know they were going to the Quidditch Cup? Of course they would know it's coming up!

4.) Ron's brothers were not at the Tournament. Bill was supposed to meet Fleur. Are they going to take that whole thing out?

On the whole, the movies are disappointing but it's still fun to watch them. I just wish...I don't know. The books are just so complex and perfect with amazing characters and character development. It's probably impossible for it all to make it on film unscathed.

Spock · 12-02-2005, 04:39 PM

Well, it seems, artistic license has struck again. Fortunately I have to wait for it to come out on dvd and even then, I ususally can treat film and book as separate entities, each with their own virtues.

durinsbane2244 · 12-04-2005, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jellyfishannah

1.)They hardly gave Fred and George any of the witty lines that they have in the books. And what about their jokeshop? Ron is supposed to be funny, too but they just make him whiney.

2.) I don't really see why they made Beauxbaton be an all-girls school and Durmstrang an all-boys.

3.)Why didn't they know they were going to the Quidditch Cup? Of course they would know it's coming up!

4.) Ron's brothers were not at the Tournament. Bill was supposed to meet Fleur. Are they going to take that whole thing out?

On the whole, the movies are disappointing but it's still fun to watch them. I just wish...I don't know. The books are just so complex and perfect with amazing characters and character development. It's probably impossible for it all to make it on film unscathed.

beuxbaton was an all girls school, IIRC, and i think they were playing to the russian-esque military-esque thing with durmstrang, and i think when they said, "where're we going", they meant literally where they were headed then, not long term, as they were climbing a hill in the wilderness...

Elanor · 12-05-2005, 08:48 PM

Durmstrang might have been all boys, but the book mentions boys from Beauxbatons; one of them asks Parvati to dance, I think.

Linaewen · 12-06-2005, 07:52 PM

I thought the movie was ok, but the omission of so much and the exaggeration of other bits left me deeply dissatisfied. Typically, however, I really liked the special effects. Fred & George were terrific. Anyway, most of the things I was disappointed about have already been discussed so I don't think I'll go into detail about those, except this. Am I the only one who found Voldemort unscary? Sure, he looked a bit freaky but he nonetheless seemed too much like an ordinary wizard (especially with that voice!) to invoke any sense of fear. He did not project the aura befitting a Dark Lord. I almost laughed at him. I think I found Neville scarier than Voldemort.

Elanor · 12-06-2005, 08:05 PM

My sister was completely freaked out by the graveyard scene. She won't even watch it now. But then she gets scared by any remotely scary movie. I'm a little more jaded, at least as to action violence (I don't like horror), so while it did impress me, it didn't actually scare me. I think if I didn't know what was going to happen it would have scared me more.

durinsbane2244 · 12-06-2005, 09:01 PM

maybe it's because i'm not a little girl, but i wasn't that scared...and i've read the book so much...anyway, one thing far from butchered, I LOVED THE APPARITION! IT WAS AWESOME! i was hoping it wouldn't be puff of smoke like dobby, and they didn't let me down...it was tendrils of darkness...sweet..oh, and when Voldie came back...i just love tendrils of darkness...anyway, i was dissapointed they got rid of stupify and just used expelliarmus...

rohirrim TR · 12-09-2005, 11:18 PM

when is GoF coming out on DVD? the trailers do look pretty cool.

***azalea*** · 12-10-2005, 01:16 AM

I realised I didn't give my 2 cents on Entmoot about this. I REALLY liked this movie! I thought the pacing was great, and that they did a good job with the translation aside from the few inevitable things (Padma in Gryffindor, Flitwick crowd surfing, Maxime picking something from Hagrid and eating it). Cho's accent surprised me as well, but she was cute.

The two scenes I missed the most were the staircase scene with Harry in his cloak, Moody, Filch, and Snape; and the ending scene in the hospital wing where Ddore confronts Fudge about Voldie's return and assigns tasks to everyone. But I do understand why they couldn't include everything.

I really liked the scene when Harry comes back with Cedric's body. I thought DR did a good job there.

That's basically it!

Spock · 12-10-2005, 11:27 AM

I'm hoping the DVD comes out by June, based upon past releases. Meanwhile, I'll read all your reviews.

***azalea*** · 12-10-2005, 01:48 PM

I'm sure there will be extended/ extra scenes on the dvd, too!

Radagast The Brown · 12-10-2005, 06:25 PM

Saw it today... it was fine, not too good, too many things unlike the books - I suppose they had to do it, the book is huge. But there were many things I hated that had nothing to do with saving time...
I think the scenes just jumped from one to the other. It was really annoying.. Barty Crouch dead->Harry comes to Dumbledore's office, and I thought he's going to tell him about Crouch like in the book, but then I realized it's the scene with the pensive... weird.
Hated the 'dance' of Durstrang and Beauxbaton, also hated the fact they were all boys all girls... hated the elimination of the house-elves... hated the fact everyone was happy in the end!!! The end should've been sad. Very sad even, at least for Harry Hermione and Ron, and yet for some reason they were happy!!! Voldemort was indeed disappointing. But I suppose that the best they can do... mentioning the polyjuice all the time again ruined the end in a way for those who haven't rea dthe books... and I thought Harry losing consious in the World Cup was silly. I don't like the fact Crouch Junior returns to Azkaban either, becuase then they'll have to show him again next movies when all others will be released. to end this... why did the dragon chased Harry and left her egg volunrable? Where's the sense in that?
And can you believe Dumbledore shouted?

These are the main points...

Still for a Harry Potter movie it was okay I guess. I just had more expectations.

11-28-2005, 08:57 PM	#81
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	psst....choco....ok, i thought as soon as i posted that, "hey, maybe choco was just playin along..." but then it was too late...sorry.... anyway, yes, i do think that harry was good, but, apologies, when they did the priori incantatum, he looked kinda silly, hunched over and all with his feet together and such, whereas Voldy looked hardcore, in the fighting stance and one hand and such....oh yea, he's cool...oh, and is he the same actor in PJ's latest flick, KK? __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

11-28-2005, 09:24 PM	#82
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	oh, also, when ron's underwater, he looks like a caveman....just thrown that out there... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

11-28-2005, 10:07 PM	#83
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	I thought the Gillyweed effect was awesome. And I liked that Neville was the one who told Harry about it-- I always wish Neville was more prominent in the books. Then of course the line he says is great. "I've killed Harry Potter!" __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes

11-28-2005, 10:20 PM	#84
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	yes, that made me laugh...OH MY GOD! I'VE KILLED HARRY POTTER! in a foolish, british accent...hehe...yes, that was good...i also liked how he never shut up, "well, there is some debate among herbologists about the different effects of saltwater and freshwater..." __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

11-30-2005, 01:37 PM	#85
emily leonard Enting Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: on the moon but i do vist earth now and again Posts: 57	harry potter i saw it last night and i waz not happy: why was barty croch at the riddel house ? harry sould have woken up at the durslys and been colected by fred and gorge as then we find out about there joke shop and we see what sort of stuff they are aming to do. the quidich world cup was completly messed up there was ment to be a wood where everbody runs to and mugles for the deatheaters to mess with. and barty crouch jr had to have an invisiblility cloke to hide under in the top box. which they diddent go into hence no winki so there is no s.p.e.u.w and that is esentual to the 5 book as they shoud treet kreacher well so he wouldent go to the malfoyes. and the other schools do get to hogwarts untill the halloween feast not at the start of term. i could wright a book on everything that was wrong with it but what got 2 me the most was : moody being made out as being stupid : everything being missed out and then they added stuff in where it wasent needed e.g the dragon on the roof thing. : and they left everything unfinished that realy got to me .

12-01-2005, 03:56 PM	#86
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	s.p.e.u.w.? What's that, the Society for Protection of Elvish Under Wear? Sure, all that could have been done, if they wanted to make a movie 5 hours.long... Trust me, they considered all these things, and they did the best they could. __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes Last edited by Elanor : 12-01-2005 at 03:57 PM.

12-01-2005, 09:47 PM	#87
The Witch-King of Angmar Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 143	I agree they left alot out, but i think they if they had to leave out sub-plots, at least they focussed on the Voldemort plot. I liked it better than the 3rd movie. They really screwed that up. __________________ *"Do not come between the Nazgûl and his prey"* I'm an Xbox Guy! Xbox Guys

12-01-2005, 10:39 PM	#88
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	Yeah, at least they didn't add in stupid stuff like shrunken heads... __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes

12-02-2005, 04:39 PM	#90
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Well, it seems, artistic license has struck again. Fortunately I have to wait for it to come out on dvd and even then, I ususally can treat film and book as separate entities, each with their own virtues. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

12-05-2005, 08:48 PM	#92
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	Durmstrang might have been all boys, but the book mentions boys from Beauxbatons; one of them asks Parvati to dance, I think. __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes

12-06-2005, 07:52 PM	#93
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	I thought the movie was ok, but the omission of so much and the exaggeration of other bits left me deeply dissatisfied. Typically, however, I really liked the special effects. Fred & George were terrific. Anyway, most of the things I was disappointed about have already been discussed so I don't think I'll go into detail about those, except this. Am I the only one who found Voldemort unscary? Sure, he looked a bit freaky but he nonetheless seemed too much like an ordinary wizard (especially with that voice!) to invoke any sense of fear. He did not project the aura befitting a Dark Lord. I almost laughed at him. I think I found Neville scarier than Voldemort. Last edited by Linaewen : 12-06-2005 at 07:54 PM.

12-06-2005, 08:05 PM	#94
Elanor Hobbit in the Music Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Westmarch Posts: 1,111	My sister was completely freaked out by the graveyard scene. She won't even watch it now. But then she gets scared by any remotely scary movie. I'm a little more jaded, at least as to action violence (I don't like horror), so while it did impress me, it didn't actually scare me. I think if I didn't know what was going to happen it would have scared me more. __________________ Middle Earth Crossword Puzzle on the Tolkien Site of DOOM Segovia Mazes

12-06-2005, 09:01 PM	#95
durinsbane2244 Dreamweaver Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Misty Mountains, where the spirits go... Posts: 3,560	maybe it's because i'm not a little girl, but i wasn't that scared...and i've read the book so much...anyway, one thing far from butchered, I LOVED THE APPARITION! IT WAS AWESOME! i was hoping it wouldn't be puff of smoke like dobby, and they didn't let me down...it was tendrils of darkness...sweet..oh, and when Voldie came back...i just love tendrils of darkness...anyway, i was dissapointed they got rid of stupify and just used expelliarmus... __________________ Lord, what fools these mortals be! ---------------- We are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams; World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams: Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. ---------------- Shanti, shanti, shantih...

12-10-2005, 01:16 AM	#97
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I realised I didn't give my 2 cents on Entmoot about this. I REALLY liked this movie! I thought the pacing was great, and that they did a good job with the translation aside from the few inevitable things (Padma in Gryffindor, Flitwick crowd surfing, Maxime picking something from Hagrid and eating it). Cho's accent surprised me as well, but she was cute. The two scenes I missed the most were the staircase scene with Harry in his cloak, Moody, Filch, and Snape; and the ending scene in the hospital wing where Ddore confronts Fudge about Voldie's return and assigns tasks to everyone. But I do understand why they couldn't include everything. I really liked the scene when Harry comes back with Cedric's body. I thought DR did a good job there. That's basically it!

12-10-2005, 11:27 AM	#98
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	I'm hoping the DVD comes out by June, based upon past releases. Meanwhile, I'll read all your reviews. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

12-10-2005, 01:48 PM	#99
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I'm sure there will be extended/ extra scenes on the dvd, too!

12-10-2005, 06:25 PM	#100
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Saw it today... it was fine, not too good, too many things unlike the books - I suppose they had to do it, the book is huge. But there were many things I hated that had nothing to do with saving time... I think the scenes just jumped from one to the other. It was really annoying.. Barty Crouch dead->Harry comes to Dumbledore's office, and I thought he's going to tell him about Crouch like in the book, but then I realized it's the scene with the pensive... weird. Hated the 'dance' of Durstrang and Beauxbaton, also hated the fact they were all boys all girls... hated the elimination of the house-elves... hated the fact everyone was happy in the end!!! The end should've been sad. Very sad even, at least for Harry Hermione and Ron, and yet for some reason they were happy!!! Voldemort was indeed disappointing. But I suppose that the best they can do... mentioning the polyjuice all the time again ruined the end in a way for those who haven't rea dthe books... and I thought Harry losing consious in the World Cup was silly. I don't like the fact Crouch Junior returns to Azkaban either, becuase then they'll have to show him again next movies when all others will be released. to end this... why did the dragon chased Harry and left her egg volunrable? Where's the sense in that? And can you believe Dumbledore shouted? These are the main points... Still for a Harry Potter movie it was okay I guess. I just had more expectations. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide