01-25-2002, 09:50 AM | #1 |
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The Lord of Carrion
When Eowyn attacks the Witch King she shouts out "Begone Dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion!".
Does this refer to the Witch King or his steed? I thought it was the flying beast, but they're never caleld that anywhere else! |
01-25-2002, 10:05 AM | #2 |
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Dwimmerlaik could be a translation of a Rohirric curse. Got to burnish my old english.
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01-25-2002, 01:51 PM | #3 |
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I'd say, that it means simply "monster" or "evil creature".
That's at least how it's translated in finnish... It's propably olde english. |
01-25-2002, 06:58 PM | #4 |
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Carrion means: dead and putrefying flesh. I always thought Eowyn was insulting Ol'Witchy.
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01-25-2002, 08:02 PM | #5 |
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Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the lidless eye. |
01-25-2002, 08:26 PM | #6 |
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Dwimmerlaik is a Title for the Witch King, derived from the Old English words Socerer and Corpse, The Rohirric tongue is based on Old English.
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01-26-2002, 12:09 AM | #7 | |
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01-26-2002, 12:15 AM | #8 |
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Look, olsonm I already schooled you on the whole 'Sam' issue. He wasn't dum! Anyway, I knew Agburanar wasn't asking about carrion. I just liked the idea of Eowyn calling Ol' Dwimmy "Dead-Witch, lord of the dead-stinkies
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01-27-2002, 01:00 PM | #9 |
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mmmm, seems like some one has a little multiple personality problem.
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01-28-2002, 12:10 AM | #10 |
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dwimmerlaik is obviously the nazgul/witch king and not his steed. in the index of LOTR under dwimmerlaik it has in brackets "in Rohan, work of necromancy, spectre"
work of necromancy = creation of sauron spectre = ghost/wraith/phantom as my english teacher used to tell me, always go back to the source. |
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