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CardenIAntauraNauco · 01-14-2002, 07:40 PM

Fellowship of the Ring

ragamuffin92 · 01-14-2002, 08:16 PM

Hi, Eärniel--Ahhh, don't worry--there are so any abbreviations flying around here that anybody would be confused. We won't call you stupid NOW, but do we have your permission to do so at a later date, if we feel the need to?

ragamuffin92 · 01-14-2002, 08:23 PM

Hi--
I'mn wondering if Professor T himself ever made up his mind on the Blue Wizards. You're right, tho, I was citing a letter from 1958, and I know he revised things, right up to the end of his life. Could you tell me where you got the notes 27 and 28 from? They weren't in the "Istari" chapter, and I got dizzy jumping around in "Unfinished."

afro-elf · 01-14-2002, 09:16 PM

I got this from Inoldonil on an earlier post.

The Blue Wizards as Morinehtar and Romenstámo (or Rome(n)star) can be found in The Peoples of Middle-earth; Late Writings, Last Writings, the Blue Wizards.

ragamuffin92 · 01-14-2002, 09:33 PM

"The Peoples of Middle-earth" is a book? I don't have it, but I'm going to look for it.

afro-elf · 01-14-2002, 09:53 PM

I believe it is part of the 10 volume HoME.

History of Middle Earth

ragamuffin92 · 01-14-2002, 10:06 PM

Oh, yeah, forgot about them. I gave one to my Dad called "The Treason of Isengard," I think.

***Earniel*** · 01-15-2002, 06:21 AM

Aaaaargh, I KNEW I shouldn't have said that! I just KNEW it!

ragamuffin92 · 01-15-2002, 11:57 AM

Don't sweat it if you think you asked or said something dumb. Someone else will come along and say or ask something even dumber soon enough, and take you off the hook.
Besides, anybody here who looks down on a person who has less knowledge or forgets something is a jerk, and who cares what a jerk thinks, right?

Elfstone. · 01-15-2002, 02:59 PM

FOrget about the History of Middle Earth just let it be with JRR's stuff takes his notes and his letter as truth, just remember Chris T wrote the History stuff so it may not be as JRR would haev desired it to be so.

Just my thought

Elfstone

***Earniel*** · 01-15-2002, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ragamuffin92
Don't sweat it if you think you asked or said something dumb. Someone else will come along and say or ask something even dumber soon enough, and take you off the hook.
Besides, anybody here who looks down on a person who has less knowledge or forgets something is a jerk, and who cares what a jerk thinks, right?

Thanks for the encouragement Ragamuffin92!
I'm touched, snif

01-14-2002, 07:40 PM	#21
CardenIAntauraNauco Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: rural oklahoma Posts: 324	Fellowship of the Ring __________________ "We will have peace","Yes we will have peace...we will have peace when you and all your works have perished - and the works of your dark lord to whom you would deliver us. You are a liar,Saruman,and a corrupter of men's hearts. You hold out your hand to me and I percieve only a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold! Even if your war on me was just - as it was not,for were you ten times as wise you would have no right to rule me and mine, for your own profit you desired-even so, what will you say of your Torches in westfold and the children that lie dead there? And they hewed Hama's body before the gates of Hornburg, after he was dead. When you hang from a gibbet at your window for the sport of your own crows, I will have peace with you and Orthanc. So much for the House of Eorl. A lesser son of greater Sires am I, but I do not need to lick your fingers. Turn elsewither for I fear your voice has lost it's charm.

01-14-2002, 08:16 PM	#22
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	Hi, Eärniel--Ahhh, don't worry--there are so any abbreviations flying around here that anybody would be confused. We won't call you stupid NOW, but do we have your permission to do so at a later date, if we feel the need to? __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-14-2002, 08:23 PM	#23
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	To Afro-Elf Re: The Blue Guys Hi-- I'mn wondering if Professor T himself ever made up his mind on the Blue Wizards. You're right, tho, I was citing a letter from 1958, and I know he revised things, right up to the end of his life. Could you tell me where you got the notes 27 and 28 from? They weren't in the "Istari" chapter, and I got dizzy jumping around in "Unfinished." __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-14-2002, 09:16 PM	#24
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	I got this from Inoldonil on an earlier post. The Blue Wizards as Morinehtar and Romenstámo (or Rome(n)star) can be found in The Peoples of Middle-earth; Late Writings, Last Writings, the Blue Wizards. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-14-2002, 09:33 PM	#25
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	To Afro-elf: O I C "The Peoples of Middle-earth" is a book? I don't have it, but I'm going to look for it. __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-14-2002, 09:53 PM	#26
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	I believe it is part of the 10 volume HoME. History of Middle Earth __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

01-14-2002, 10:06 PM	#27
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	Oh, yeah, forgot about them. I gave one to my Dad called "The Treason of Isengard," I think. __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-15-2002, 06:21 AM	#28
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Aaaaargh, I KNEW I shouldn't have said that! I just KNEW it!

01-15-2002, 11:57 AM	#29
ragamuffin92 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York State Posts: 309	To Eärniel, Re: "Aaaaargh" Don't sweat it if you think you asked or said something dumb. Someone else will come along and say or ask something even dumber soon enough, and take you off the hook. Besides, anybody here who looks down on a person who has less knowledge or forgets something is a jerk, and who cares what a jerk thinks, right? __________________ FRODO LIVES!! (sung to the tune of "My Boyfriend's Back") Now, Gandalf's back, and you're gonna be in trouble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back) Soon, Barad-dur is gonna be a pile of rubble (Hey-la, hey-la---Now, Gandalf's back)

01-15-2002, 02:59 PM	#30
Elfstone. Hobbit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada. Posts: 37	Stick with Prof T FOrget about the History of Middle Earth just let it be with JRR's stuff takes his notes and his letter as truth, just remember Chris T wrote the History stuff so it may not be as JRR would haev desired it to be so. Just my thought Elfstone __________________ "Now in the very hour of his great designs the heir of Isildur and the Sword are revealed; for I showed the blade re-forged to him. He is not so mighty yet that he is above fear; nay, doubt ever gnaws him." - When Aragorn son of Arathorn looks Sauron straight in the eyes and Sauron cowers. Anduril flaming in my right hand. The Palantir's blue eminating glow in my left hand. 3500 Year's of Kingly Numenorean bloodline flowing through my veins. Who's your Tyler Durden, now? Christ Reigns. Romans 10:9 Ephesians 6 Psalm 91

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