03-25-2004, 12:25 PM | #201 |
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Yes they did, and it was based on the same principle, that being "fight the fights you can win."
Unfortunatley, a terrorist principal. They only attack, where they can "win"...
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03-25-2004, 04:29 PM | #202 | |
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It made me so sad to see that Palestinian boy on the front page today . |
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03-25-2004, 05:21 PM | #203 |
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it is very sad...
I feel very sorry for this kid. Within the week, an 11 year old and this 14 year old have been used to either transport explosives or for a (attempted) terrorist hit. |
03-25-2004, 05:32 PM | #204 | |
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The second 15 years old knew he's going to suicide - but probably because he was told he'd go to heaven if he suicide 'to help his people to free their land'. He regretted, was afraid to die, when the soldiers understood he's got a bomb. |
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03-27-2004, 01:12 AM | #205 |
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Rad, if you hear anything more, I'm sure we'd like to hear about this. Keep us informed.
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03-27-2004, 09:47 AM | #206 | |
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Terrorism aims it's strikes against the civilian population with the purpose of sowing...well, terror. The point is to spread panic and disruption in the society as a whole. Thus a bombing (even a suicide bombing) against a military target is not an act of terror- it's simply irregular war.
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03-27-2004, 01:32 PM | #207 | |
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03-29-2004, 05:02 AM | #208 |
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Another aspect to this issue is the use of the term "war". Personally, I think it's a mistake to declare "war" on terrorism, for lots of reasons, but one of them is semantic.
If you're at war, things which you'd normally not do (like kill 10,000 civilians) suddenly become acceptable. That's because in war, the main thing is winning. So, you can argue that, for example, by dropping a nuclear bomb and killing 100,000 people we actually saved lives in the long term because Japan surrendered without being invaded. The point is that the normal concepts of right and wrong don't apply in a war situation. This is one reason why the IRA was always trying to get the British to declare "war" on them, as it would have legitimised their own tactics. So, by declaring war on terrorists, Bush brings us down towards their level, and gives them the opportunity of justifying their own tactics, because it's a "war". I found myself in a very unusual position the other day: agreeing with John Redwood (arch Thatcherite). He said that to defeat terrorists you have to treat them like criminals, and use the law to defeat them. |
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