Shelob

Agburanar · 09-06-2001, 02:24 PM

Does anyone have an idea what happened to Shelob?

"And whether she rested long...and healed herself, this tale does not tell."

ringbearer · 09-06-2001, 11:07 PM

I thought she was killed...But I could be wrong!

olorin · 09-07-2001, 12:44 AM

Didn't the LOTR say she gradually starved to death, or maybe that was Ungoliant.

jediguy · 09-07-2001, 02:03 AM

I think she'd feed on the wayward Orcs after Sauron's demise, but after that, who knows?

Gandalf · 09-09-2001, 02:54 PM

She's probably still alive in her army.

Comic Book Guy · 09-09-2001, 06:52 PM

What do you mean shes still alive in her army Gandalf?

Finmandos12 · 09-09-2001, 08:47 PM

I read somewhere that she died from the wound Sam gave her. (I don't remember where..

webwizard333 · 09-09-2001, 08:59 PM

Yet another enigma Tolkien has left for us (though the answer's somewhere probably). I bet she's probably dead, and that she slowly died from the wound thta was inflicted by Sam. Though, even if she hadn't died and recovered Gondor would have learned of her existance and sent out some sort of force to kill her, or she could have devoured herself like her mother, Ungoliante.

ringbearer · 09-09-2001, 09:14 PM

Since Shelob was an offspring of Ungoliant...did Ungoliant live there, too? Is that where Cirith Ungol got its name? Or does Ungol just mean "spider"...hence "Cirith Ungol" means "pass of the spider".

Ñólendil · 09-09-2001, 10:15 PM

Yes, 'ungol' means spider.

samwise of the shire · 09-10-2001, 03:19 PM

did'nt Tolkien say that Shelob was an evil thing in spider FORM so even if Sam killed her then would'nt her spirit pass on? That was'nt an opinion just a question on my part.Personally I think that either Sam kicked her into oblivion or the more complex version of when Sauron was destroyed all evil weakened(remember the orcs and all at the end)thus Shelob either starved because there were no orcs or else she could no longer obtain the bulk and darkness that she wanted and so died from exporsere to light and Gondorian swords(heck who would'nt notic a spider the size of an Oliphant?)or maybe she shrunk so much she became a normal spider and got squished.Either way I beleive she did'nt stand a chance.
Sam

Gandalf · 09-11-2001, 01:32 PM

Shelob wasn't under Sauron's control .. those Orcs were.

Agburanar · 09-17-2001, 02:29 PM

I think she went and had a long gossip with the elves about how unfair it was to be kicked out of their lovely homes!

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

Gandalf · 09-17-2001, 03:32 PM

Actually dragons taste better with mayo

fatclown · 09-20-2001, 11:05 PM

Well she was blinded with a great light and stabbed with an enchanted blade. Although not immediately, i would assume she was as good as dead.

09-06-2001, 02:24 PM	#1
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	Shelob Does anyone have an idea what happened to Shelob? "And whether she rested long...and healed herself, this tale does not tell."

09-06-2001, 11:07 PM	#2
ringbearer Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA Posts: 561	I thought she was killed...But I could be wrong! __________________ Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty!

09-07-2001, 12:44 AM	#3
olorin Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 38	Didn't the LOTR say she gradually starved to death, or maybe that was Ungoliant. __________________ All that's gold does not glitter Not all who wander are lost The old that is strong does not wither Deep roots are not reached by the frost.....

09-09-2001, 08:47 PM	#7
Finmandos12 Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa Posts: 327	I read somewhere that she died from the wound Sam gave her. (I don't remember where.. __________________ The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

09-09-2001, 08:59 PM	#8
webwizard333 Elf Lord Join Date: May 2001 Location: myob Posts: 587	Yet another enigma Tolkien has left for us (though the answer's somewhere probably). I bet she's probably dead, and that she slowly died from the wound thta was inflicted by Sam. Though, even if she hadn't died and recovered Gondor would have learned of her existance and sent out some sort of force to kill her, or she could have devoured herself like her mother, Ungoliante. __________________ Boo!

09-07-2001, 02:03 AM	#4
jediguy Hobbit Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 40	I think she'd feed on the wayward Orcs after Sauron's demise, but after that, who knows?

09-09-2001, 02:54 PM	#5
Gandalf Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 32	She's probably still alive in her army.

09-09-2001, 06:52 PM	#6
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	What do you mean shes still alive in her army Gandalf?

09-09-2001, 09:14 PM	#9
ringbearer Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: St. Louis, Mo. USA Posts: 561	Since Shelob was an offspring of Ungoliant...did Ungoliant live there, too? Is that where Cirith Ungol got its name? Or does Ungol just mean "spider"...hence "Cirith Ungol" means "pass of the spider". __________________ Ringbearer Hide Witch, hide! The Good Folks come to burn thee! Their keen enjoyment hid behind A Gothic mask of duty!

09-09-2001, 10:15 PM	#10
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Yes, 'ungol' means spider. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

09-10-2001, 03:19 PM	#11
samwise of the shire Radically Tolkienited Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: If home is where the heart is, and my heart is in heaven...that should answer your question. <+>< Posts: 967	Hey wait... did'nt Tolkien say that Shelob was an evil thing in spider FORM so even if Sam killed her then would'nt her spirit pass on? That was'nt an opinion just a question on my part.Personally I think that either Sam kicked her into oblivion or the more complex version of when Sauron was destroyed all evil weakened(remember the orcs and all at the end)thus Shelob either starved because there were no orcs or else she could no longer obtain the bulk and darkness that she wanted and so died from exporsere to light and Gondorian swords(heck who would'nt notic a spider the size of an Oliphant?)or maybe she shrunk so much she became a normal spider and got squished.Either way I beleive she did'nt stand a chance. Sam __________________ Jesus is my all in all <><+<><+<><+<><+<><+<><+ People who are so concerned with escapism do have a name...we call them jailers. ~J.R.R Tolkien Radically Saved, Totally Tolkienited GOD... BLESS... AMERICA...

09-11-2001, 01:32 PM	#12
Gandalf Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 32	Shelob wasn't under Sauron's control .. those Orcs were.

09-17-2001, 02:29 PM	#13
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	I think she went and had a long gossip with the elves about how unfair it was to be kicked out of their lovely homes! Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

09-17-2001, 03:32 PM	#14
Gandalf Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 32	Actually dragons taste better with mayo

09-20-2001, 11:05 PM	#15
fatclown Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 30	Well she was blinded with a great light and stabbed with an enchanted blade. Although not immediately, i would assume she was as good as dead.

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