Rock Is Dead - Page 3

Insidious Rex · 12-15-2003, 01:59 PM

What ultimate scale will you use exactly to compare one art form to another?

Janny · 02-13-2004, 05:49 PM

No way is rock dead!!! 9/11 has revitalised old rock, take The Rising for example. Maybe it's just that the choice is 50 year olds still making quality music (maybe not strictly rock eg. Mark Knopfler) and people in PVC. People like... i dunno... all those people you were mentioning aren't rock... theyre loud. It has evolved beyond rock. Rock is now ryan adams, sub rosa etc etc.
Long live real rock!

***gdl96*** · 02-13-2004, 06:18 PM

Bruce Springstein should have nothing to do with rock and roll. The Rising made rock worse.

Janny · 02-14-2004, 10:23 AM

Explain.

Lizra · 02-14-2004, 07:15 PM

Love that avatar Janny!

Is "The Rising" a Bruce and E Street Band album (cd

) or just Bruce? Bruce rocks out with his band more than his solo stuff. His "Viva Las Vegas" rocks! (Or should I say rawks....

)

BeardofPants · 02-15-2004, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gdl96
Bruce Springstein should have nothing to do with rock and roll. The Rising made rock worse.

*smacks Greg on the upside of the head*

I thought you'd stopped being so narrow-minded about music?

***gdl96*** · 02-15-2004, 12:42 PM

*ouch*

Maybe that was a little harsh. But I still dont like Springstein.

Janny · 02-15-2004, 02:14 PM

Aww

. Thanks for the support n all, but i wanted to lay into the guy... e.g. 'Ok, what's your taste in rock and roll? Westlife?' Never mind... plus probably havn't heard of Westlife... lucky America.

Lalaith_Elf · 02-15-2004, 02:42 PM

I don't think rock is dead. But then to me it's an individual perspective. Just because the charts are lined with pathetic excuses for music - ie. pop, it doesn't mean that there arn't decent rock bands out there.
True the days of Nirvana and Queen will probably never be seen again, but there are alternatives. I admit that I like the Darkness. Mainly because they're trying to put the fun back into music. The Red Hot Chillie Pepper are another good group. And I think that some people tend to mix rock and metal music. Rock will never die out - it'll just change gradually over the years. If it stayed the same then face it, people would get bored of the same thing.

***gdl96*** · 02-15-2004, 05:35 PM

The Darkness reminds me of Spinal Tap. They're fun though. They are bringing some fun back to rock and roll.

Millane · 02-16-2004, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith_Elf
The Red Hot Chillie Pepper are another good group...

do you think of RHCP as rock? maybe it is as you say and i just tend to think of Rock as being metal but my idea of Rock is Fear of the Dark at Rock in Rio (ooooh been watching the IM dvd

WOOOO!! ROCK

) or Manson trashing everything to the sounds of Lunchbox.... thats rock

Lalaith_Elf · 02-16-2004, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Millane
do you think of RHCP as rock? maybe it is as you say and i just tend to think of Rock as being metal but my idea of Rock is Fear of the Dark at Rock in Rio (ooooh been watching the IM dvd WOOOO!! ROCK ) or Manson trashing everything to the sounds of Lunchbox.... thats rock

You see, I see Manson as metal. He's good as well, but to me he's not rock.

Bombadillo · 02-17-2004, 03:35 PM

I think rock is dead temporarily. It's dormant.

For some reason, people have recently become blind to talent. they listen to the big bands, because many of their friends do, and then they won't admit this, either. They also listen to popular bands because they are the most easily available. But then, dammit!, they forget that other, older, potentially BETTER bands exist.
For instance, only a few people I know in my high school want to listen to actual metal. Of these (about 20) people, only 1 has actually looked into other bands besides SoaD, Linkin Park, Metallica... and realised that some other musicians not only make good noise, but even write intelligent, thought-out lyrics that are not necassarily about popular beliefs.

But that's a poor example. Rock. Rock isn't around anymore because too many people believe newness and popularity to be the only two deciding factors in whether or not a song is good. White Stripes: When I first heard them, I was outraged. I could be their guitarist, or drummer, and probably vocalist; all they play is beats. My only comfort was that they weren'y popular. But they were on TV, and have made more appearances in commercials and whatnot, and now they are inavoidable because of the damned media.
If only the best rock musicians would be allowed to get gigs, there'd be a tremendous revival.

Janny · 02-17-2004, 04:56 PM

All i can say is 'damn right'.

Janny · 02-17-2004, 05:01 PM

And also the general calibre of abuse hurling pub gits has depreciated.

12-15-2003, 01:59 PM	#41
Insidious Rex Quasi Evil Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Maryland, US Posts: 4,634	What ultimate scale will you use exactly to compare one art form to another? __________________ "People's political beliefs don't stem from the factual information they've acquired. Far more the facts people choose to believe are the product of their political beliefs." "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

02-14-2004, 07:15 PM	#45
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Love that avatar Janny! Is "The Rising" a Bruce and E Street Band album (cd ) or just Bruce? Bruce rocks out with his band more than his solo stuff. His "Viva Las Vegas" rocks! (Or should I say rawks.... ) __________________ Happy Atheist Go Democrats!

02-15-2004, 02:42 PM	#49
Lalaith_Elf Her Infernal Majesty Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,188	I don't think rock is dead. But then to me it's an individual perspective. Just because the charts are lined with pathetic excuses for music - ie. pop, it doesn't mean that there arn't decent rock bands out there. True the days of Nirvana and Queen will probably never be seen again, but there are alternatives. I admit that I like the Darkness. Mainly because they're trying to put the fun back into music. The Red Hot Chillie Pepper are another good group. And I think that some people tend to mix rock and metal music. Rock will never die out - it'll just change gradually over the years. If it stayed the same then face it, people would get bored of the same thing. __________________ "It is a good viewpoint to see the world as a dream. When you have something like a nightmare, you will wake up and tell yourself that it was only a dream. It is said that the world we live in is not a bit different from this." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo

02-17-2004, 03:35 PM	#53
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	I think rock is dead temporarily. It's dormant. For some reason, people have recently become blind to talent. they listen to the big bands, because many of their friends do, and then they won't admit this, either. They also listen to popular bands because they are the most easily available. But then, dammit!, they forget that other, older, potentially BETTER bands exist. For instance, only a few people I know in my high school want to listen to actual metal. Of these (about 20) people, only 1 has actually looked into other bands besides SoaD, Linkin Park, Metallica... and realised that some other musicians not only make good noise, but even write intelligent, thought-out lyrics that are not necassarily about popular beliefs. But that's a poor example. Rock. Rock isn't around anymore because too many people believe newness and popularity to be the only two deciding factors in whether or not a song is good. White Stripes: When I first heard them, I was outraged. I could be their guitarist, or drummer, and probably vocalist; all they play is beats. My only comfort was that they weren'y popular. But they were on TV, and have made more appearances in commercials and whatnot, and now they are inavoidable because of the damned media. If only the best rock musicians would be allowed to get gigs, there'd be a tremendous revival. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

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02-13-2004, 05:49 PM	#42
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	No way is rock dead!!! 9/11 has revitalised old rock, take The Rising for example. Maybe it's just that the choice is 50 year olds still making quality music (maybe not strictly rock eg. Mark Knopfler) and people in PVC. People like... i dunno... all those people you were mentioning aren't rock... theyre loud. It has evolved beyond rock. Rock is now ryan adams, sub rosa etc etc. Long live real rock!

02-13-2004, 06:18 PM	#43
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	Bruce Springstein should have nothing to do with rock and roll. The Rising made rock worse.

02-14-2004, 10:23 AM	#44
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Explain.

02-15-2004, 12:42 PM	#47
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	ouch Maybe that was a little harsh. But I still dont like Springstein.

02-15-2004, 02:14 PM	#48
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	Aww . Thanks for the support n all, but i wanted to lay into the guy... e.g. 'Ok, what's your taste in rock and roll? Westlife?' Never mind... plus probably havn't heard of Westlife... lucky America.

02-15-2004, 05:35 PM	#50
*gdl96* the greg the admin Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 2,101	The Darkness reminds me of Spinal Tap. They're fun though. They are bringing some fun back to rock and roll.

02-17-2004, 04:56 PM	#54
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	All i can say is 'damn right'.

02-17-2004, 05:01 PM	#55
Janny The Blobbit Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kent, England (Not Oxford! ... yet...) Posts: 1,596	And also the general calibre of abuse hurling pub gits has depreciated.