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Old 12-06-2003, 04:04 PM   #41
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I say Tuor, he was the best human. I didn't really like Beren, from some reason.
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It's got to be Thalion the Steadfast, the Great Hero. He faced Morgoth face to face and never flinched. Could Beren had withstood Morgoth that way?
No.
You mean Hurin? (I'm not sure)

You can't really know what would've Beren do if he was facing Morgoth. And Hurin, eventually, helped Morgoth, even if it wasn't intentionally.
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Old 12-06-2003, 04:31 PM   #42
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I've never really gotten into Tuor or Beren...It's hard to describe, but they seem to only do what they're supposed to. Always the good things. We seldom get to see why or what they feel about it, or if they ever wondered "why am I doing this?", "Why me?", will I be able to do it?"...

Or perhaps it's just a long time since I read the Silmarillion.
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Old 12-06-2003, 04:41 PM   #43
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I've never really gotten into Tuor or Beren...It's hard to describe, but they seem to only do what they're supposed to. Always the good things. We seldom get to see why or what they feel about it, or if they ever wondered "why am I doing this?", "Why me?", will I be able to do it?"...

Or perhaps it's just a long time since I read the Silmarillion.
I think you're right about Tuor, but UT does tell about him so... UT tells what he was thinking and doing. In details.
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Old 12-06-2003, 04:43 PM   #44
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It's a long time since I read UT as well.
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Old 12-06-2003, 05:42 PM   #45
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You can't really know what would've Beren do if he was facing Morgoth.
Oh but he did face Morgoth, you know. And then he did - nothing. It was his half-divine gf who saved the day.
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Old 12-06-2003, 06:14 PM   #46
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Oh but he did face Morgoth, you know. And then he did - nothing. It was his half-divine gf who saved the day.
Sissy!

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Old 12-06-2003, 06:45 PM   #47
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Oh but he did face Morgoth, you know. And then he did - nothing. It was his half-divine gf who saved the day.
That is very true. Go Luthien!
There's a couple of versions that were pretty cool in BoLTs. Not sure if it was 1 or 2 right now. Intersting how Beren was forced to work in the kitchen until Luthien saved him.

But why is it so bad to have a woman (Elf or Human) save you if you are a man? Look at Eowyn... how brave and strong she was in standing up to the Witch King.

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Old 12-06-2003, 06:49 PM   #48
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That is very true. Go Luthien!
There's a couple of versions that were pretty cool in BoLTs. Not sure if it was 1 or 2 right now. Intersting how Beren was forced to work in the kitchen until Luthien saved him.
Wasn't he also forced to work for that great cat? Can't remember the name of it right now, Tevilius or similar. Interesting that, a cat as the almost ultimate evil with human slaves. Sounds like my own.
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Wasn't he also forced to work for that great cat? Can't remember the name of it right now, Tevilius or similar. Interesting that, a cat as the almost ultimate evil with human slaves. Sounds like my own.
That was the story, yes. Cat's are evil.
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Old 12-07-2003, 04:41 AM   #50
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Sissy!

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Hee-hee. I can see why Finrod ran away with him.


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Old 12-08-2003, 11:44 PM   #51
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Right now, I am partial to Tuor. At the fall of Gondolin, and after, he kept what elves he could together and moving to some safety. Which is also why I like Haleth who held her people together.
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