forgotten things from the fellowship of the ring

hectorberlioz · 06-23-2003, 08:09 PM

maybe these things arent so much forgotten about as they are not to remembered to talk about.

bilbo leaves bag end with three dwarves after his talk with gandalf.

a fox stops and looks at the hobbits while they are asleep under a tree on thier journey to crickhollow.

frodo and meriadoc have been in the old forest before

tom bombadil is considered a possibility as caretaker of the ring

bill the pony is bought from bill ferny(okay you knew that)

butterbur's beer is the best(hey, a tonguetwister!) after gandalf says and i qoute: may your beer be the best for 800 years!
-hectorberlioz
postscript:tell these things to other people who have not the memory!

Aragorn_iz_cool · 06-24-2003, 11:20 AM

800 years? It was only 7 years. The fox would have been nice.

Ararax · 06-24-2003, 12:04 PM

the whole talk with Nob and the pony bill

hectorberlioz · 06-24-2003, 01:42 PM

okay, i exageratted when i said 800 yrs. lol. -hectorberlioz

Cute_Elfik · 06-26-2003, 06:48 PM

Still new here!!!!!
Hey......800 years isn't so much to Elves.May be you even right....but it is just told in other count of time!

Shadowfax · 06-27-2003, 10:46 AM

Are you guys talking about things they should have put in the movie? or things you think people have forgotten from the book? If it's about the book, this is in the wrong forum. I'm just confused.

hectorberlioz · 06-29-2003, 11:25 PM

I posted this thread when i was still new to this tolkien ' woundrous miracle' of a place, and i stuck this thread in the wrong forum, sorry, but oh well, i hope people enjoy it anyway.- yours sincerely dedicated to this board, hectorberlioz.
(A touching moment!*sob* )

Gamigar · 07-01-2003, 02:07 PM

People seem to often forget that Gandalf didn't come with all his fireworks in one cart. Carts actually started coming a couple weeks before the party I think.

samwise of the shire · 07-03-2003, 04:36 PM

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People seem to often forget that Gandalf didn't come with all his fireworks in one cart. Carts actually started coming a couple weeks before the party I think.

I read that in FOTR last night!!! Dwarves came in a cart a couple of days before Gandalf who arrived with his firecrackers alone...FRODO did NOT go with him

Some people forget that there are hobbits in Bree, I mean I read FOTR and I completely FORGET that there are hobbits in the Prancing Pony.
It's easy to forget that Gandalf's really a dangerous wizard not to be meddled with.
That's all I can think of,
Cheers,
Sam.

Lalaith · 07-05-2003, 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by Aragorn_iz_cool
800 years? It was only 7 years. And how could T.B. be considered when he wasn't IN the movie.The fox would have been nice.

I guess we are talking about the Book.

hectorberlioz · 07-22-2003, 03:22 PM

Radghast is not new FOTR,he was invented in the hobbit. Okay thats not specifically something about FOTR, is it? Hey lets post anything forgotten in lotr or hobbit, period.

***IronParrot*** · 07-24-2003, 01:53 PM

The bit with the fox is actually a very interesting moment in the book. It is the one instance when Tolkien switches into animal personification, and looks at things from a neutral, third-party perspective. You'll notice that such moments from Book I are very much in the same mode as The Hobbit.

Sicirus · 08-16-2003, 07:31 PM

Not to be mean to poor old TB but it would have probably been too much to include him in the movie. But I found it rather annoying that the hobbits were gevin the weapons in such a simple manner. Or that Aragorn was just carrying them around for a such an accasion to come up. I like the fact the hobbits had to work through their fears to recieve the weapons. It would have been cool to see them go through Barrow downs.

They also left out:

Sam's view of the mirror of Galadriel.

How Frodo was unconcious and Aragorn carried him out of that chamber in Moria and Frodo awoke in his arms.

Aragorn singing to Arwen the elf lament.

The visit to the Hall of Fire which would have been nice.

The escape of the ponies which led to the purchasing of Bill.

Frodo's song.

***azalea*** · 08-17-2003, 02:14 PM

I know this is confusing, but according to the thread starter, this thread is about "little things" that happened in the books that are often forgotten about. This is NOT a thread about the movies (he said it had been put in the wrong forum by accident, so it was moved to this forum). Just wanted to clarify that. Movie comments are welcome in the similar thread(s) in that forum.

durin's bane · 08-17-2003, 08:59 PM

A lot people seem to forget that Gandalf had a scarf.

***Earniel*** · 08-18-2003, 06:02 AM

I had completely forgotten that when Frodo leaves Bag's End for Crickhollow, he's not only accompagnied by Sam but by Pippin aswell.

Sicirus · 08-18-2003, 12:45 PM

How about the fact that Aragorn informs Frodo of Pippin's big mouth.

Or how the famous poem by Bilbo is about Aragorn in discription.

06-23-2003, 08:09 PM	#1
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	forgotten things from the fellowship of the ring maybe these things arent so much forgotten about as they are not to remembered to talk about. bilbo leaves bag end with three dwarves after his talk with gandalf. a fox stops and looks at the hobbits while they are asleep under a tree on thier journey to crickhollow. frodo and meriadoc have been in the old forest before tom bombadil is considered a possibility as caretaker of the ring bill the pony is bought from bill ferny(okay you knew that) butterbur's beer is the best(hey, a tonguetwister!) after gandalf says and i qoute: may your beer be the best for 800 years! -hectorberlioz postscript:tell these things to other people who have not the memory!

06-24-2003, 11:20 AM	#2
Aragorn_iz_cool Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 119	800 years? It was only 7 years. The fox would have been nice. Last edited by Aragorn_iz_cool : 01-27-2004 at 10:28 PM.

06-24-2003, 12:04 PM	#3
Ararax Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NEW JERSEY! Posts: 375	the whole talk with Nob and the pony bill __________________ Woah Deep

06-24-2003, 01:42 PM	#4
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	my exagerated mistake okay, i exageratted when i said 800 yrs. lol. -hectorberlioz

06-26-2003, 06:48 PM	#5
Cute_Elfik Sapling Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Israel(From Russia) Posts: 7	Still new here!!!!! Hey......800 years isn't so much to Elves.May be you even right....but it is just told in other count of time! __________________ Just Elf from Mirkwood!!! Have troubles with Quenya!!! Namarie!!!

06-27-2003, 10:46 AM	#6
Shadowfax The Fleet-Footed Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: British Columbia Posts: 913	Are you guys talking about things they should have put in the movie? or things you think people have forgotten from the book? If it's about the book, this is in the wrong forum. I'm just confused. __________________ Jesus saved me "To remain ignorant of things that happened before you were born is to remain a child" (Cicero, 106-43 B.C.) "Art is a lie which makes us realize the truth" (Picasso)

06-29-2003, 11:25 PM	#7
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	A little mistake I posted this thread when i was still new to this tolkien ' woundrous miracle' of a place, and i stuck this thread in the wrong forum, sorry, but oh well, i hope people enjoy it anyway.- yours sincerely dedicated to this board, hectorberlioz. (A touching moment!sob )

07-01-2003, 02:07 PM	#8
Gamigar Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere between here and there Posts: 116	People seem to often forget that Gandalf didn't come with all his fireworks in one cart. Carts actually started coming a couple weeks before the party I think. __________________ The road goes ever on and on Down from the door where it began Now far ahead the road has gone And I must follow if I can Pursuing it with eager feet Until it joins some larger way Where many paths and errands meet And wither then I can not say

07-22-2003, 03:22 PM	#11
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	Radghast is not new FOTR,he was invented in the hobbit. Okay thats not specifically something about FOTR, is it? Hey lets post anything forgotten in lotr or hobbit, period. __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

07-24-2003, 01:53 PM	#12
*IronParrot* Fowl Administrator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Calgary or Edmonton, Canada Posts: 53,420	The bit with the fox is actually a very interesting moment in the book. It is the one instance when Tolkien switches into animal personification, and looks at things from a neutral, third-party perspective. You'll notice that such moments from Book I are very much in the same mode as The Hobbit. __________________ All of IronParrot's posts are guaranteed to be 100% intelligent and/or sarcastic, comprising no genetically modified content and tested on no cute furry little animals unless the SPCA is looking elsewhere. If you observe a failure to uphold this warranty, please contact a forum administrator immediately to receive a full refund on your Entmoot registration. Blog: Nick's Café Canadien

08-16-2003, 07:31 PM	#13
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	Not to be mean to poor old TB but it would have probably been too much to include him in the movie. But I found it rather annoying that the hobbits were gevin the weapons in such a simple manner. Or that Aragorn was just carrying them around for a such an accasion to come up. I like the fact the hobbits had to work through their fears to recieve the weapons. It would have been cool to see them go through Barrow downs. They also left out: Sam's view of the mirror of Galadriel. How Frodo was unconcious and Aragorn carried him out of that chamber in Moria and Frodo awoke in his arms. Aragorn singing to Arwen the elf lament. The visit to the Hall of Fire which would have been nice. The escape of the ponies which led to the purchasing of Bill. Frodo's song. __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

08-17-2003, 02:14 PM	#14
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	I know this is confusing, but according to the thread starter, this thread is about "little things" that happened in the books that are often forgotten about. This is NOT a thread about the movies (he said it had been put in the wrong forum by accident, so it was moved to this forum). Just wanted to clarify that. Movie comments are welcome in the similar thread(s) in that forum.

08-17-2003, 08:59 PM	#15
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	A lot people seem to forget that Gandalf had a scarf. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

08-18-2003, 06:02 AM	#16
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	I had completely forgotten that when Frodo leaves Bag's End for Crickhollow, he's not only accompagnied by Sam but by Pippin aswell. __________________ We are not things.

08-18-2003, 12:45 PM	#17
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	How about the fact that Aragorn informs Frodo of Pippin's big mouth. Or how the famous poem by Bilbo is about Aragorn in discription. __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

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