Balrog fight in the TTT - Page 3

Balrog_of_Morgoth · 03-10-2003, 10:14 PM

Yes. It was a good idea to portray that in the movie, even though it did present some problems in the book - it seemed that one size fit all.

For that reason, at least in the movie version, the Balrog could have conceivably took the ring and wore it. (maybe on his pinky finger

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Dunadan · 03-11-2003, 06:14 AM

Would the balrog have understood what the Ring was? If he'd been sleeping through the Second Age, he might not understand the "technology".

I liked Gandalf's reference to him in the first film as "a demon of the ancient world", implying that this is something beyond understanding from an almost alien world. Since the balrog fled from Angband, the world had been reshaped twice.

So, would the balrog have the brains or understanding to wield the Ring effectively?

Fanëar · 03-11-2003, 09:08 PM

I'm a little confused now...In the first movie didnt Gandalf tell them to run from the Balrog because their weapons couldnt help them but in the 2nd movie the Balrog was killed by being repeatedlly stabbed with a sword. I dont get it....

Insidious Rex · 03-11-2003, 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by Fanëar
I'm a little confused now...In the first movie didnt Gandalf tell them to run from the Balrog because their weapons couldnt help them but in the 2nd movie the Balrog was killed by being repeatedlly stabbed with a sword. I dont get it....

With Gandolfs sword. Which is a special sword. And by Gandolf who is maiar. AND after he called down lightening to super charge his sword. So no the weapons of the others wouldnt have helped I dont think. Maybe sting but yer not gonna get far stabbing a balrog in the ankle with a dagger.

Fanëar · 03-11-2003, 09:30 PM

thanks I somewhat seee that now. But why didnt he just do all that magic stuff and kill the mean thing right there?

Insidious Rex · 03-11-2003, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by Fanëar
thanks I somewhat seee that now. But why didnt he just do all that magic stuff and kill the mean thing right there?

Well remember the battle started there. It took days. But it was all the same battle. We just dont get to see the part where they fight all the way back to the top of the mountain. I think Gandolf just wanted to cut off the Balrog because he didnt want to risk actually fighting it at all. He had other things to worry about and time was of the essence. The whole bridge breaking thing was a trap. He figured ok hell drop off then we can make our escape. But of course the Balrog managed to snag him and Gandolf fell.

Fanëar · 03-11-2003, 09:44 PM

thanks I get that now

03-10-2003, 10:14 PM	#41
Balrog_of_Morgoth Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Parkersburg WV Posts: 110	Yes. It was a good idea to portray that in the movie, even though it did present some problems in the book - it seemed that one size fit all. For that reason, at least in the movie version, the Balrog could have conceivably took the ring and wore it. (maybe on his pinky finger ) __________________ Fingolfin: The Mighty Elven Lord who challenged Morgoth to single combat!

03-11-2003, 09:08 PM	#43
Fanëar Hobbit Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SC Posts: 43	Questionable... I'm a little confused now...In the first movie didnt Gandalf tell them to run from the Balrog because their weapons couldnt help them but in the 2nd movie the Balrog was killed by being repeatedlly stabbed with a sword. I dont get it.... __________________ ~Fanëar~ "Aragorn, Le naa belegohtar" "Legolas, Le naa curucuar" ~Omentuva~

03-11-2003, 09:30 PM	#45
Fanëar Hobbit Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SC Posts: 43	thanks I somewhat seee that now. But why didnt he just do all that magic stuff and kill the mean thing right there? __________________ ~Fanëar~ "Aragorn, Le naa belegohtar" "Legolas, Le naa curucuar" ~Omentuva~

03-11-2003, 09:44 PM	#47
Fanëar Hobbit Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SC Posts: 43	thanks I get that now __________________ ~Fanëar~ "Aragorn, Le naa belegohtar" "Legolas, Le naa curucuar" ~Omentuva~

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03-11-2003, 06:14 AM	#42
Dunadan The Quite Querulous Quendi Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oxon, UK Posts: 638	Would the balrog have understood what the Ring was? If he'd been sleeping through the Second Age, he might not understand the "technology". I liked Gandalf's reference to him in the first film as "a demon of the ancient world", implying that this is something beyond understanding from an almost alien world. Since the balrog fled from Angband, the world had been reshaped twice. So, would the balrog have the brains or understanding to wield the Ring effectively?