Would Gimli of met Aule?

Sween · 12-31-2002, 07:39 AM

The fact that Gimli traveled to tol erressa intrests me the only of his kind to leave middle earth and enter the rhelm of the valar!

surely Aule would be keen to met gimli a creature of his making!

Does it state ne where if they met?

Elf Girl · 12-31-2002, 09:33 AM

As far as I know, they stop talking about Gimli as soon as he goes West.

Eglantine Banks · 12-31-2002, 09:50 AM

The question doesn't make sense. Do you mean:

Would Gimli have met Aule?

-Eglantine (grammatically)

Coney · 12-31-2002, 04:55 PM

I've only read the 'obbit LotR and Sil....and there is certainly no mention of said meeting in those.

Nice to imagine such a meeting tho'

*can feel a short fan-fic coming on*.

Millane · 01-01-2003, 09:30 AM

i dont think it says anything about that but in my opinion i would think so... its not a frequent thing that dwarves would go to valinor (did any others ever go??) and the interest would work both ways

samwiselvr2008 · 01-01-2003, 04:12 PM

I just read this the onther day in the apenix, however I am to lazy to go get my book so that I can quote it. It says that Gimlie passed over the seas, and that nothing else is said on this matter, that's all. It was the last line in the Red Book of Westernmarch, (I think) you can go search the apendix to see exsacly what is says.

ArwenEvenstar · 01-01-2003, 04:53 PM

IMHO he prolly would have, because Aule prolly would want to meet one of his creatures after they advanced. . .

samwiselvr2008 · 01-01-2003, 05:41 PM

Was Aule the one that evented drwarves? I just read that part of the Sil. about 2 days ago!

Sween · 01-01-2003, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by samwiselvr2008
Was Aule the one that evented drwarves? I just read that part of the Sil. about 2 days ago!

yeah he made the seven fathers of the dwarfs and eru gave them life so basically they are his babies

Aragorn_iz_cool · 01-01-2003, 07:51 PM

Yeah, He got impatient waiting for the elves so he made his own Lil' People. But then Eru said they had to wait till the Elves were in the world before going into it, couse the elves gotta be the first born.

***Earniel*** · 01-02-2003, 09:27 AM

As far as I know Tolkien didn't write about Legolas and Gimli once they had left Middle Earth. But if they did make it to Valinor I think it would be very probable that Gimli met Aulë one day. It's interesting thinking how that meeting might have been.

Elf Girl · 01-02-2003, 04:29 PM

Maybe someone should RP it...

***Earniel*** · 01-02-2003, 05:18 PM

Don't give them any ideas!

Rána Eressëa · 02-17-2003, 04:04 PM

Oh, I'm sure if Gimli went over there he met Aule.

Lord Manafirogh · 02-17-2003, 05:11 PM

I would think that aule must have met a dwarf before. Maybe he met durin(he was one of the seven fathers) but that would be nice if he met gimli.

Artanis · 02-18-2003, 03:45 AM

I think Lord Manafirogh is right, Aulë did probably meet his Dwarfs in the Elder days. After all, he made them out of a desire to teach and nurture them. But because all stories from Arda is from the Elves' point of view, we haven't heard about it.

It is very nice to imagine Gimli meeting Aulë upon Tol Eressea.

Aranwe · 02-18-2003, 10:21 AM

Aule had already met some dwarves... the ones he created. He was about to kill them, but Eru stopped him because the dwarves had life and were scared of the hammer. It's in the Silmarillion.

Of course he's met dwarves, how could he create something without actually meeting it?

Artanis · 02-18-2003, 10:28 AM

I know, Aranwe, I was thinking about the Dwarves after their awakening from their sleep.

Lanelf · 02-20-2003, 01:55 AM

Heeheehee! Just imagine that meeting:
Gimli: Oh my God!
Legolas: What's the matter?
Gimli: No, really! He's here!

Lanelf.

12-31-2002, 07:39 AM	#1
Sween im quite stupid Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cockermouth Posts: 2,058	Would Gimli of met Aule? The fact that Gimli traveled to tol erressa intrests me the only of his kind to leave middle earth and enter the rhelm of the valar! surely Aule would be keen to met gimli a creature of his making! Does it state ne where if they met? __________________ Yeah god hes ok but i would rather be judged by a sheep than that idiot

12-31-2002, 09:33 AM	#2
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	As far as I know, they stop talking about Gimli as soon as he goes West. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

12-31-2002, 09:50 AM	#3
Eglantine Banks Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 19	Re: Would Gimli of met Aule? The question doesn't make sense. Do you mean: Would Gimli have met Aule? -Eglantine (grammatically)

12-31-2002, 04:55 PM	#4
Coney The Buddy Rabbit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Trapped in the headlights.. Posts: 3,372	I've only read the 'obbit LotR and Sil....and there is certainly no mention of said meeting in those. Nice to imagine such a meeting tho' can feel a short fan-fic coming on. __________________ Blessed are the cracked, they let the light in Beatallica

01-01-2003, 09:30 AM	#5
Millane The Dude Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: at the altar of my ego Posts: 1,685	i dont think it says anything about that but in my opinion i would think so... its not a frequent thing that dwarves would go to valinor (did any others ever go??) and the interest would work both ways __________________ Ill heal your wounds, ill set you free,

01-01-2003, 04:12 PM	#6
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	I just read this the onther day in the apenix, however I am to lazy to go get my book so that I can quote it. It says that Gimlie passed over the seas, and that nothing else is said on this matter, that's all. It was the last line in the Red Book of Westernmarch, (I think) you can go search the apendix to see exsacly what is says. __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

01-01-2003, 04:53 PM	#7
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	IMHO he prolly would have, because Aule prolly would want to meet one of his creatures after they advanced. . . __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

01-01-2003, 05:41 PM	#8
samwiselvr2008 Elf Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 739	Was Aule the one that evented drwarves? I just read that part of the Sil. about 2 days ago! __________________ Jesus loves you! Movie vewing count from the theater: Return of the King:9 Two Towers: 11 Fellowship: 13 FRODO LIVES!

01-01-2003, 07:51 PM	#10
Aragorn_iz_cool Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 119	Yeah, He got impatient waiting for the elves so he made his own Lil' People. But then Eru said they had to wait till the Elves were in the world before going into it, couse the elves gotta be the first born.

01-02-2003, 09:27 AM	#11
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	As far as I know Tolkien didn't write about Legolas and Gimli once they had left Middle Earth. But if they did make it to Valinor I think it would be very probable that Gimli met Aulë one day. It's interesting thinking how that meeting might have been. __________________ We are not things.

01-02-2003, 04:29 PM	#12
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Maybe someone should RP it... __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

01-02-2003, 05:18 PM	#13
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Don't give them any ideas! __________________ We are not things.

02-17-2003, 04:04 PM	#14
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	Oh, I'm sure if Gimli went over there he met Aule.

02-17-2003, 05:11 PM	#15
Lord Manafirogh Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: London Posts: 187	I would think that aule must have met a dwarf before. Maybe he met durin(he was one of the seven fathers) but that would be nice if he met gimli.

02-18-2003, 03:45 AM	#16
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	I think Lord Manafirogh is right, Aulë did probably meet his Dwarfs in the Elder days. After all, he made them out of a desire to teach and nurture them. But because all stories from Arda is from the Elves' point of view, we haven't heard about it. It is very nice to imagine Gimli meeting Aulë upon Tol Eressea. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

02-18-2003, 10:21 AM	#17
Aranwe Enting Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 55	Aule had already met some dwarves... the ones he created. He was about to kill them, but Eru stopped him because the dwarves had life and were scared of the hammer. It's in the Silmarillion. Of course he's met dwarves, how could he create something without actually meeting it?

02-18-2003, 10:28 AM	#18
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	I know, Aranwe, I was thinking about the Dwarves after their awakening from their sleep. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

02-20-2003, 01:55 AM	#19
Lanelf Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Second Drawer Down Posts: 407	Heeheehee! Just imagine that meeting: Gimli: Oh my God! Legolas: What's the matter? Gimli: No, really! He's here! Lanelf. __________________ Hey, I'm back! resounding silence You didn't even notice I was gone, did you? Well, I'm back now anyway. Artemis Fowl must find Mulch Diggums! You'll never shut down the real Napster

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