Ulmo or Osse

afro-elf · 02-07-2003, 02:34 AM

Was it one or both who wanted the Elves to stay in ME?

Do think this was why water had power over the servants of darkness?

Lefty Scaevola · 02-07-2003, 10:18 AM

Ulmo opposed in debate the summoning of the eldar to Aman, but obeyed and cooperated in bring them them when it was decided. Osse liked the Teleri so much that he disobeyed and persuaded some of them to remain in the Falas( these later called Falathrim), and (with consent from Ulmo) anchored Eressea in the bay of Eldamar, rather than bringing the Teleri (these later called Falmari) to the shore of Aman. The Falmari later learned ship building (apparently better than the Falatrim, and with more 'magic" in the ships) from Osse and spread out over the shore of Aman.

afro-elf · 02-07-2003, 07:05 PM

Thanks

Kirinki54 · 02-09-2003, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by afro-elf
Was it one or both who wanted the Elves to stay in ME?

Do think this was why water had power over the servants of darkness?

As for the latter, I think the main reason was that the evil power of Morgoth disseminated least in water.

Cirdan · 02-11-2003, 12:40 AM

Ask Voronwe. Osse wrecked his ship and Ulmo rescued him and delivered him to Tuor's side in Vinyamar.

02-07-2003, 02:34 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Ulmo or Osse Was it one or both who wanted the Elves to stay in ME? Do think this was why water had power over the servants of darkness? __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

02-07-2003, 10:18 AM	#2
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	Ulmo opposed in debate the summoning of the eldar to Aman, but obeyed and cooperated in bring them them when it was decided. Osse liked the Teleri so much that he disobeyed and persuaded some of them to remain in the Falas( these later called Falathrim), and (with consent from Ulmo) anchored Eressea in the bay of Eldamar, rather than bringing the Teleri (these later called Falmari) to the shore of Aman. The Falmari later learned ship building (apparently better than the Falatrim, and with more 'magic" in the ships) from Osse and spread out over the shore of Aman. Last edited by Lefty Scaevola : 02-08-2003 at 12:30 PM.

02-07-2003, 07:05 PM	#3
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Thanks __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

02-11-2003, 12:40 AM	#5
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	Ask Voronwe. Osse wrecked his ship and Ulmo rescued him and delivered him to Tuor's side in Vinyamar. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

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