Which finger did Frodo lose when Gollum bit the ring off his hand? - Page 5

Wayfarer · 12-17-2002, 03:11 PM

translation: 'Yes, he did.'

katya · 12-17-2002, 07:20 PM

Ok i was jsut at a web site somewhere (?) and i noticed they had a little thing on where traditions come from. On of the questions was "Why do we wear wedding rings on our third finger?" So I guess that means that our ring finger is the third finger.

Cirdan · 12-17-2002, 09:32 PM

Yes, that must be right because the index finger is the "we're number one" finger.

Frodo uses the index finger in the movie, which is wrong.

cassiopeia · 12-17-2002, 10:56 PM

Ok, I'm going to put the exact quote from the chapter "The Field of Kormallen" from Sauron Defeated, HoME volume 9.

This is from Tokien's rough draft:

....and upon Frodo's hand upon the middle* and little fingers the set small rings of mithril...

Where * is there is a note by Christopher which says (exactly):

My father named the penultimate finger (the 'fourth finger' or 'ring finger') the 'third finger'; so Frodo's 'third finger' was missing' (RK p. 229).

Now if anyone would know what Tokien meant by 'third finger' I would think it would be his son, Christopher.

Blackboar · 12-24-2002, 04:58 AM

Exactly!!!

Good old Chris Tolkien always clears the matter!!

Blackboar · 12-24-2002, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BeardofPants
Are you blind, or just plain idiotic? It's been said twice now (three times, if you count my post that disappeared.)

Just idiotic

And I havn't read the whole of this thread!!

And Cass is therefore the 4th person to say this but she can make her voice be heard!

Adrian Baggins · 12-29-2002, 02:28 PM

If you would kindly notice in the movie that Frodo wears the ring on his LEFT hand. What is up with that? He wears it on the wrong hand, wrong finger and he doesn't even put it all the way on. Once he even wore it on his thumb in the movie, or was it twice. Oh well. In the cartoon The Return of the King it is his ring finger as well. Didn't Chris Tolkien do some work and have some say on animation in that movie? I read somewhere that he did. Oh well again. Oh well, True, and Point are my sayings.Those and Oh Hobbit or just plain Hobbit or Frodo. I have been known to say Fellowship Fiddlesticks, Sam! or Oh Sam!, Merry, or Pippin, and I sometimes list all the hobbits instead of cussing or Shoot.

12-17-2002, 03:11 PM	#81
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	translation: 'Yes, he did.' __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

12-17-2002, 09:32 PM	#83
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	Yes, that must be right because the index finger is the "we're number one" finger. Frodo uses the index finger in the movie, which is wrong. __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

12-17-2002, 10:56 PM	#84
cassiopeia Viggoholic Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 1,749	Ok, I'm going to put the exact quote from the chapter "The Field of Kormallen" from Sauron Defeated, HoME volume 9. This is from Tokien's rough draft: ....and upon Frodo's hand upon the middle and little fingers the set small rings of mithril...* Where * is there is a note by Christopher which says (exactly): My father named the penultimate finger (the 'fourth finger' or 'ring finger') the 'third finger'; so Frodo's 'third finger' was missing' (RK p. 229). Now if anyone would know what Tokien meant by 'third finger' I would think it would be his son, Christopher. __________________ Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try. Last edited by cassiopeia : 12-17-2002 at 10:58 PM.

12-29-2002, 02:28 PM	#87
Adrian Baggins Frodo's lil sis HP LotR fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: in a tree reading Harry P. and LotR Posts: 585	If you would kindly notice in the movie that Frodo wears the ring on his LEFT hand. What is up with that? He wears it on the wrong hand, wrong finger and he doesn't even put it all the way on. Once he even wore it on his thumb in the movie, or was it twice. Oh well. In the cartoon The Return of the King it is his ring finger as well. Didn't Chris Tolkien do some work and have some say on animation in that movie? I read somewhere that he did. Oh well again. Oh well, True, and Point are my sayings.Those and Oh Hobbit or just plain Hobbit or Frodo. I have been known to say Fellowship Fiddlesticks, Sam! or Oh Sam!, Merry, or Pippin, and I sometimes list all the hobbits instead of cussing or Shoot. __________________ AB Adrian Baggins wizard, elf, mortal, hobbit Owner of the 3 unknown rings I LIKE HIEI!! LOOK AT MY AVITAR IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS!! H. Hysterically cold I. Insanely unhuman E. Effortlessly mocking I. Irresistabely hott "You're a team player, a save-the-day superhero pause I hate people like you." ~Hiei

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12-17-2002, 07:20 PM	#82
katya Elven Maiden Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,309	Ok i was jsut at a web site somewhere (?) and i noticed they had a little thing on where traditions come from. On of the questions was "Why do we wear wedding rings on our third finger?" So I guess that means that our ring finger is the third finger.

12-24-2002, 04:58 AM	#85
Blackboar Legolas's beloved sister and Queen of the Wood Elves of Mirkwood Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Under the hill at Bag-end, Hobbiton the Shire Or Rivendell,I can't remember!!!!!!!!!! Posts: 1,086	Exactly!!! Good old Chris Tolkien always clears the matter!!